Fucking paypal

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For those of you that use PayPal and like to keep some funds in there, you might want to be careful about the changes that are coming up, From their last e-mail it sounds a bit like they have some new "policy changes" coming in regards to your keeping your money with them..
 
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PP has it's issues but it is convenient. Got the email too about SSN but not giving to them. As I understand, only have to give it to them if you maintain balance and use to pay for stuff. Being required to get info by Fed banking laws. All you have to do is transfer to your bank.
 
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First they get you hooked on the "convenience" and get you used to using their services and not sending cash or checks around.
Then they start slowly tightening the screws and wanting more and more control & information they are part of the plan to eventually take control of every aspect of commerce and you either tow the SJW Communist line, or you don't do business....
 
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I normally don"t post publicly but this hits a nerve

PP is EVIL.
they lure u in with false security

I gave in --- signed up with pp, as business decision. having refused untill 1 year ago
Boy was I WRONG.
They sent me a similar set of notices 3-5 times,
They changed the requirements several times. nothing would satisfy them, January 27 pp proceded to lock down my business account stating "still need more personal info ".
(we had emptied $ the night prior)
we then open a secondary account under the corporate business name,per their rules- properly . included letters of incorporation, EIN #, bank accounts ect.. all good to go...
Even recieve an e mail......congratulations you can now send and recieve pp transfers.
Then they showed their Fangs.
We recieved payments exceding $5000.00 in the next 36 hours.
then got the "notice" requiring additional information.
Immediatly they seized the account ...it is frozen... we cant refund customers $ ,send or receive any $ and cant transfer any funds with out providing additional private personal information. (this is a business corporate account.).
we are being blackmailed now... i will not comply!
Currently we and several customers are out a bunch of $. We informed them our account has been frozen and to claim item not recieved as we will not ship without payment.
pay pal wont refund them .
although they claim," pp the safe and secure way to send $"
that is a total lie.....
We've been told 6 months and we can request our $ back...... .... their excuse "it is in our terms of use that u agreed to."

pay pal is a scam
they are anti free enterprise, and are very ANTI 2nd Ammendment
Hide members, protect your self
Please
DONT use pay pal, remove your $, attempt to close your account.
if you have been suckered by the lie and convenience of "safe and secure"
stop using pay pal
why support- a leftist company who dosen't support our US consutuition?
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PayPal like all the other new SJW controlled Technocrat companies that are trying to control everything firmly are against any consumer protection laws and believe there should be able to do whatever they want at their whim and change their treatment of people at any moment and everybody just has to live with it... But get really upset when anybody suggests they should follow the law.

They are pretty much the embodiment of Communist ideals... no rules but what we say they are at that moment. No rights for anyone but us, all must obey our whims without question or suffer harsh consequences.
 
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I never used Pp. I had eBay account 100% positive feedback until they required pp. I had someone on here claim if they don’t have a pp I don’t trust them.. I’m at the point that if they only accept pp I don’t trust em. I’ve sent uspo money orders all over America and only had one end up lost. I got my money back from post office eventually. We shouldn’t be so willing to give money to anti 2a corporations just for a little temporary perceived convenience.
 
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Blutroop said:
. I had someone on here claim if they don’t have a pp I don’t trust them.. I’m at the point that if they only accept pp I don’t trust em. .
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I think a lot of it is folks want their money in a big hurry and don't want to wait for a money order to get to them, or don't trust that "the check is in the mail".
 
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W54/XM-388 said:
I think a lot of it is folks want their money in a big hurry and don't want to wait for a money order to get to them, or don't trust that "the check is in the mail".
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I get the “the check is in the mail thing” I never expect anyone to send until cash is in hand. I just can’t get past the idea of paying money to be stolen from and be treated like I’m a bad guy because I exercise my rights. I can go find a Democrat for free.
 
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To ease the checks in the mail thing, I always send a picture of the mo or check and the stamped envelope. Usually send it with tracking and send the number. I’ve missed out on a few deals here over the years because a guy would only accept PayPal. I’ve also had a friend use his account to snag something that was PayPal only. While i understand that convienence if it. Their principles are so far out of line with what people on here should be that I find it amazing that it’s so prevalent. I pay with a money order unless it’s over $1000; then I use a bank check.
 
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Geno C. said:
To ease the checks in the mail thing, I always send a picture of the mo or check and the stamped envelope. Usually send it with tracking and send the number. I’ve missed out on a few deals here over the years because a guy would only accept PayPal. I’ve also had a friend use his account to snag something that was PayPal only. While i understand that convienence if it. Their principles are so far out of line with what people on here should be that I find it amazing that it’s so prevalent. I pay with a money order unless it’s over $1000; then I use a bank check.
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This is exactly what I do.
 
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This is all very interesting, and new to me. I will have to research it more for sure. I use PP quite often and never have had any sort of trouble. I buy and sell a LOT of cycling components and use it at time for firearms related items. I am certainly not opposed to personal checks, or money orders but have grown to trust PP. Time to re-assess that I suppose...
 
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jbell said:
This is all very interesting, and new to me. I will have to research it more for sure. I use PP quite often and never have had any sort of trouble. I buy and sell a LOT of cycling components and use it at time for firearms related items. I am certainly not opposed to personal checks, or money orders but have grown to trust PP. Time to re-assess that I suppose...
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PayPal like most of the "New" Technocrat stuff seems all great and wonderful.... Right up until they rip the mask off and show their true colors...

So if you currently use PayPal, continue as you wish, but I'd suggest never leaving any money in PayPal, always pull it out immediately. Also consider linking it to a bank account that is NOT your primary bank account and that you can keep just a minimum balance in only & fill & empty as needed & make sure it has no overdraft capability.
 
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Biggest convenience for me is when I'm buying something. Click, click, done. No trips to PO to stand in line w/ a bunch of mouth breathers just to get to a counter staffed by clowns to buy a MO. Most stuff I buy online I don't really need to begin with and it's often just not worth the hassle to do the MO thing. I've even sent cash for small dollar stuff rather than waste the time to go to PO.
 
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If you are a business you should have a website and a proper credit card processor.

Also, you should never let funds sit in a paypal account. Always transfer it to your bank account as soon as possible.

I've used PayPal for years buying secondhand stuff on the Internet and I've never had an issue, but I'm not trying to move $5k through it in 24hrs either.
 
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Wow thats a lot of hate towards PP..95-98% of my trans here buying/selling was trough paypal (gift most of it)
And never had a problem...soons i see money in my account i transfer it to my bank acct. Asap and never had an issues
 
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Some years ago (my memory is terrible) when this GayCRAPPal garbage started happening, and then one of our highly respected stockmakers got hit with the communistic IRS attacks.... said stockmaker was looking into a separate venue for processing money.

Was it a different credit-card processing, or what? Does anyone know what (if anything) came of that? Is it still in the works, or dead in the water?

Or am I totally off my nut?
 
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bjay said:
Wow thats a lot of hate towards PP..95-98% of my trans here buying/selling was trough paypal (gift most of it)
And never had a problem...soons i see money in my account i transfer it to my bank acct. Asap and never had an issues
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Over the years, we've seen this (exact?) statement made by so many people, so often. And then, it's only a matter of time, the exact opposite statement is created in a new thread, asking for help.

Always starts off something like "paypal has siezed my account, what do I do?" I don't know how many threads like this are here, and/or how many threads like that have been pruned over the years. Or even just posts in other existing threads. But it has happened too many times, and yet people still blindly go forth.....

Luck to you.
 
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Sean the Nailer said:
Over the years, we've seen this (exact?) statement made by so many people, so often. And then, it's only a matter of time, the exact opposite statement is created in a new thread, asking for help.

Always starts off something like "paypal has siezed my account, what do I do?" I don't know how many threads like this are here, and/or how many threads like that have been pruned over the years. Or even just posts in other existing threads. But it has happened too many times, and yet people still blindly go forth.....

Luck to you.
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Im with you. But some are also, bcoz they mentioned firarms or parts when doing it...or receiving paypal gift way to much per day..that will set a red flag right away..
 
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Closed my PayPal account several years ago but reopened it recently. Missed out on several deals cause few will wait for a check. Single dad and every penny counts.
 
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Sean the Nailer said:
Some years ago (my memory is terrible) when this GayCRAPPal garbage started happening, and then one of our highly respected stockmakers got hit with the communistic IRS attacks.... said stockmaker was looking into a separate venue for processing money.

Was it a different credit-card processing, or what? Does anyone know what (if anything) came of that? Is it still in the works, or dead in the water?

Or am I totally off my nut?
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I believe it was McMillan. If I remember right it was supposed be like PayPal for fun stuff
 
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#38
Since we are sharing opinions, I've probably had about 800+ transactions with Paypal with zero problems. I do as others on here and immediately transfer the money to my bank account. Never been asked for my SS#.

IMHO, it's hard to believe that someone would say, "I have zero trust in a person that only accepts payapl." I guess I can go to the opposite extreme too. I imagine that if you look hard enough, ALL of the monetary companies deal in practices that we would not agree with and so let's just boycott everyone...I know, where's the proof of this! No proof, just a gut feeling. This is capitalism...Again, this is just my opinion, not fact.
 
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W54/XM-388 said:
PayPal like most of the "New" Technocrat stuff seems all great and wonderful.... Right up until they rip the mask off and show their true colors...

So if you currently use PayPal, continue as you wish, but I'd suggest never leaving any money in PayPal, always pull it out immediately. Also consider linking it to a bank account that is NOT your primary bank account and that you can keep just a minimum balance in only & fill & empty as needed & make sure it has no overdraft capability.
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I do all of this and have never had a problem with PP...separate no fee bank account and pull money immediately. The convenience, speed and protection beats MOs all day long.
 
#40
I’ve passed on items for sale when it says paypal only. Sad too because a guy had about 800 bucks worth of stuff I’ve been wanting for awhile and he only accepted paypal. He is still looking to sell it a year later and I’m still not budging.
 
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Keel Haul said:
I’ve passed on items for sale when it says paypal only. Sad too because a guy had about 800 bucks worth of stuff I’ve been wanting for awhile and he only accepted paypal. He is still looking to sell it a year later and I’m still not budging.
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You'd think after a year he'd decide to accept a Postal Money Order.
 
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Never a problem with PP never keep a PP balance, money gets sucked out of a second checking account with less than 300.00 balance and no overdraft protection... small buyer here, anything big gets the Credit card and I'm protected.
 
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