GA Precision GAP-10

[PowerstrokeOBX]

Re: GA Precision GAP-10

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Broker</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: captnmo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Picked mine up yesterday. My wife looked at me funny when I told her me and the rifle were sleeping in the guest bedroom. Hopefully I'll get to the range soon, but just by the feel of it, the best AR I have ever seen put together. </div></div>

I got mine yesterday too, lol. I was just at Quantico showing them...

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Enough teasing, wheres the goods(pics)?

I'm just kidding.

 

[GAP-10]

Re: GA Precision GAP-10

Just got the call that my GAP-10 should be here next Friday. Hope to get out to the range that weekend.

 

[-Nick-]

Re: GA Precision GAP-10

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: OBXLongRange</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Broker</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: captnmo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Picked mine up yesterday. My wife looked at me funny when I told her me and the rifle were sleeping in the guest bedroom. Hopefully I'll get to the range soon, but just by the feel of it, the best AR I have ever seen put together. </div></div>

I got mine yesterday too, lol. I was just at Quantico showing them...

</div></div>

Enough teasing, wheres the goods(pics)?

I'm just kidding.
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No Optics unfortunately... And the TRAMP mount for the pod is getting sent back...

GAP-10 with 22" barrel, Surefire muzzle brake, FDE PRS stock & grip, FDE Troy Micro BUIS, Harris 6-9" BRMS, & a Badger TRAMP...

 

[rsilvers]

Re: GA Precision GAP-10

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Lowlight</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Lastly, I went and shot a solid 1/4" MOA group, again with witness from the wooden deck at Rifles Only </div></div>

How many shots were in the group?

 

[captain zeke]

Re: GA Precision GAP-10

I garontee that if LL shot it was a 5 shot group ! That man is mayticulas about a 5 round group !!!

 

[PowerstrokeOBX]

Re: GA Precision GAP-10

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Broker</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: OBXLongRange</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Broker</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: captnmo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Picked mine up yesterday. My wife looked at me funny when I told her me and the rifle were sleeping in the guest bedroom. Hopefully I'll get to the range soon, but just by the feel of it, the best AR I have ever seen put together. </div></div>

I got mine yesterday too, lol. I was just at Quantico showing them...

</div></div>

Enough teasing, wheres the goods(pics)?

I'm just kidding.
</div></div>


No Optics unfortunately... And the TRAMP mount for the pod is getting sent back...

GAP-10 with 22" barrel, Surefire muzzle brake, FDE PRS stock & grip, FDE Troy Micro BUIS, Harris 6-9" BRMS, & a Badger TRAMP...

</div></div>

Almost better than tits...
Nice stick.

 

[Lowlight]

Re: GA Precision GAP-10

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: rsilvers</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Lowlight</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Lastly, I went and shot a solid 1/4" MOA group, again with witness from the wooden deck at Rifles Only </div></div>

How many shots were in the group?</div></div>

Actually it was 4 shots, and I stopped because there was 6 or 7 people walking and shooting on the same deck as it was during the "SHC Demo Day" . George brought the rifle before the match and I zeroed it up while everyone was demoing different products on the deck there at RO. Scott from Vortex was spotting for me while i zeroed it on a community target board. Every group was better than 1/2" and once zeroed I shot the 1/4" group... at which point I went and centered punched the 1/4 inch dot on Tony Burkes Shoot N C while he was doing the same with his AX. Took the center right out.

But I didn't shoot 5, I stopped at 4 for fear of blowing it during the activity.

 

[redirt78]

Re: GA Precision GAP-10

Hell of a gun and great shooting.

<span style="text-decoration: line-through"><span style="color: #990000">Anyone have the Badger HIGH rings that came on their GAP10 for sale?</span></span>

 

[Eagle1*]

Re: GA Precision GAP-10

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: redirt78</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Hell of a gun and great shooting.

<span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="color: #990000">Anyone have the Badger HIGH rings that came on their GAP10 for sale?</span></span> I just got scammed for some by a guy who got banned for at least a year from SH so I'm still looking. <span style="color: #990000"><span style="font-weight: bold">Please PM me if you have them</span></span>. </div></div>

pm sent..

 

[dirty red]

Re: GA Precision GAP-10

I am wondering if any one can tell me the advantages and disadvantages of shooting hollow points as oppose to FMJ through the gap. About to make a ammo buy, and know I need 175 to 168 grain match .308. Also does anyone have trigger time with priv partisan match ammo. I am new to this game and want to make an educated decision.

 

[Tflhnd1]

Re: GA Precision GAP-10

I sold my KAC sr-25 some time ago and want to get another semi. I was going to save for the KAC em carbine fir it's performance and Mac history. But DAMN...I read this thread and am impressed with what GAP created. I have other GAP rifles so no concern there. Question; how are they doing with the 155 grainers, specifically Hornady TAP 155 with the 155 AMAX. George... Will you let my team T&E one... Hehehehe. Jeff

 

[The Lawn Ranger]

Re: GA Precision GAP-10

I reload the 155 scenars and they shoot great through this platform.

 

[NOMAD]

Re: GA Precision GAP-10

My GAP 10 arrived today!!

Sorry no time to put together today but pics will follow tomorrow!!

 

[355sigfan]

Re: GA Precision GAP-10

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: KYS338</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Alaskapopo</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mike</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'm sure it will out shoot a LaRue, but then again, that's not too hard. </div></div>

Doubtful because my GAP AR10 would not. I am glad I sold it. It was about a 1 moa gun tops. My friends Larue does better than that (more like .6). Next .308 AR I get will be a Larue.
Pat </div></div>

What was your serial number?
When did you get it?

.25 moa from a Semi or even a bolt is pretty un believable. I had a GAP 10 for several years and it was a good gun but it never did shoot as well as my friends new Larue.
Pat

my Gap10 wlll shoot .25" groups easily, so I cant say i believe you at all. </div></div>

 

[Eagle1*]

Re: GA Precision GAP-10

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Alaskapopo</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: KYS338</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Alaskapopo</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mike</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'm sure it will out shoot a LaRue, but then again, that's not too hard. </div></div>

Doubtful because my GAP AR10 would not. I am glad I sold it. It was about a 1 moa gun tops. My friends Larue does better than that (more like .6). Next .308 AR I get will be a Larue.
Pat </div></div>

What was your serial number?
When did you get it?

.25 moa from a Semi or even a bolt is pretty un believable. I had a GAP 10 for several years and it was a good gun but it never did shoot as well as my friends new Larue.
Pat

my Gap10 wlll shoot .25" groups easily, so I cant say i believe you at all. </div></div> </div></div>

I am a believer in these GAP AR10's as I just got mine and the first 25 rounds produced a 3 shot .5 group and I have had no real practice with a 308 gas gun at all. I have shot alot with an AR15 so I am really impressed with these guns. The gun will do better, it is the shooter that has to do his part, period!!!!!!!

 

[Rob01]

Re: GA Precision GAP-10

Mine should be inbound today on the UPS truck as I am usually a day behind Nomad. Can't wait!

 

[355sigfan]

Re: GA Precision GAP-10


For starters I owned mine from 2002 to 2009.I sent it back to the factory twice. It never shot as good as I would have hoped. It was just under MOA with Federal match. (around .89 or so for 5 shot groups)
Secondly 3 shot groups mean nothing. You need to shoot at least 5 to 10 shot groups to see what your rifle is capable of. Also it took you 25 shots to get a good group, your cherry picking. Tell us the average and show pictures.
Here was my rifle I have since sold it and will not buy another GAP AR10, my next .308 auto will be a Larue. I may try one of GAP's bolt guns as the ones I have seen shot as advertized.

I measure accuracy by an average of several 5 shot groups not just the best one in 25 shots.
For example with my new Remington 700

With my Larue Stealth 5.56

 

[BattleAxe]

Re: GA Precision GAP-10

I may be mistaken so I won't be offended if I'm wrong but...did I just read that you're comparing one rifle using factory match ammo against another shooting handloads?

 

[bdubb]

Re: GA Precision GAP-10

I suppose that I'll point out the obvious, or not so obvious, but to me it looks like you're comparing a rifle before GAP ever started building them. That's just awesome, time machines do exists.

Sarcasm aside, the GAP10 just began being built this year. You're comparing a different rifle.



<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Alaskapopo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
For starters I owned mine from 2002 to 2009.I sent it back to the factory twice. It never shot as good as I would have hoped. It was just under MOA with Federal match. (around .89 or so for 5 shot groups)
Secondly 3 shot groups mean nothing. You need to shoot at least 5 to 10 shot groups to see what your rifle is capable of. Also it took you 25 shots to get a good group, your cherry picking. Tell us the average and show pictures.
Here was my rifle I have since sold it and will not buy another GAP AR10, my next .308 auto will be a Larue. I may try one of GAP's bolt guns as the ones I have seen shot as advertized.

I measure accuracy by an average of several 5 shot groups not just the best one in 25 shots.
For example with my new Remington 700

With my Larue Stealth 5.56

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[BattleAxe]

Re: GA Precision GAP-10

Yea there's something strange about that post for sure. Not only comparing different rifles but very likely even comparing different people driving them. Case in point, you can get pretty good with an auto after 10 years of practice plus factoring in barrel degredation over the 7 year window he owned it.

I'm not pointing this out because I'm a Larue "hater". Fact is...I have a pic of a OBR hanging in my office. I'm just not seeing how this is even a remotely fair comparison regardless of which stik you prefer.

 

[poison123]

Re: GA Precision GAP-10

I'm glad someone else hinted it....A Larue Fan boy crapping on a GAP thread....

 

[SS-8541-dono]

Re: GA Precision GAP-10

and fyi the gap-10 that i have shot can consistantly cut in half any of the groups you posted with off the shelf match ammo and will shoot 1/2 inch groups with handloads all day every day. not going to knock larue but i know from exp the gap-10 is one of if not the most accurate semis i have shot to date. your comp is way off and until you have shot a new gap-10 wich is what this thread is about then i would hold off on any negative remarks and save some face.

 

[rsilvers]

Re: GA Precision GAP-10

5 consecutive groups of 5 is the real deal - but really one needs to do it to 5 or 10 rifles.

If the LaRue does that 0.65 MOA, that is very impressive - though personally I would want my rifle made with a NATO chamber (not saying it does not have one, but I have not heard).

 

[BattleAxe]

Re: GA Precision GAP-10

I got to see an OBR for the 1st time at the range last weekend. A guy had one with a camo job he did himself and I thought it was a pretty nice looking stik. One was on my short list but went with the G10 and no regrets.

 

[Rob01]

Re: GA Precision GAP-10

A couple quick pics of my GAP-10. Hopefully will get out tomorrow with it. Can't wait. I went with a 20" barrel and GAP Titan brake. A big thanks to George and Moon at GAP and also Tracy at Bartlein.

 

[NOMAD]

Re: GA Precision GAP-10

She is all scoped up and ready for hopefully a range session tomorrow. We will see if I can make it happen!! Iknow she will be a shooter.

 

[DMack]

Re: GA Precision GAP-10

Just so you all know... I come into this thread, and drool...

Very nice rifles everyone. I sure can't WAIT to get my hands on one of these in person.

Cheers!!!

 

[BattleAxe]

Re: GA Precision GAP-10

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: NOMAD</div><div class="ubbcode-body">She is all scoped up and ready for hopefully a range session tomorrow. </div></div>

Very nice bro

 

[SFC Carpentier jr]

Re: GA Precision GAP-10

Hey Rob and Tony I am sure they will SHOOT, but make sure and post a range report.

 

[355sigfan]

Re: GA Precision GAP-10

I did hand load for the GAP but it shot best with federal Match.
Pat

 

[355sigfan]

Re: GA Precision GAP-10

I am up to 25 groups with that load now and its still holding the same average. I have 3 other loads that work nearly as well. I perfer the .223 wylde chamber so I can shoot both but get a bit more accuracy.

400 yards

500

 

[355sigfan]

Re: GA Precision GAP-10

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Poison123</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'm glad someone else hinted it....A Larue Fan boy crapping on a GAP thread.... </div></div>
I was a GAP owner well before I was a Larue fan. Sounds like we have a lot of GAP fan boys here that don't want to hear from anyone with any thing but good to say.
pat

 

[355sigfan]

Re: GA Precision GAP-10

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bdubb</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I suppose that I'll point out the obvious, or not so obvious, but to me it looks like you're comparing a rifle before GAP ever started building them. That's just awesome, time machines do exists.

Sarcasm aside, the GAP10 just began being built this year. You're comparing a different rifle.




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I honestly don't remember the exact year. Call George up and ask him when he sent a rifle to Bethel Alaska. That is where I was living and working at the time. Again I am not saying the rifle was junk. It just did not live up to what I had hoped it would do. I was about to swear off .308 semis all together until I tried my friends Larue and was surpized that it shot so well. I won't be buying a new GAP AR10 my next one when funds allow will be the Larue. This is based on my experience with my own GAP rifle and giving it a fair chance. Trying several different loads and sending it back twice. My Larue Stealth has been great from day one. My friends OBR is awsome as well. Call me a fan boy all you want because I am based on my own personal experience and not some internet rumor.
Pat

 

[Graham]

Re: GA Precision GAP-10

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SFC Carpentier jr</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Hey Rob and Tony I am sure they will SHOOT, but make sure and post a range report. </div></div>Yup: Eagerly waiting.

 

[captain zeke]

Re: GA Precision GAP-10

Nomad and Robo1 specs on the rifles please I'm for sure they will shoot .... Grin

 

[poison123]

Re: GA Precision GAP-10

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Alaskapopo</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Poison123</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'm glad someone else hinted it....A Larue Fan boy crapping on a GAP thread.... </div></div>
I was a GAP owner well before I was a Larue fan. Sounds like we have a lot of GAP fan boys here that don't want to hear from anyone with any thing but good to say.
pat </div></div>

Maybe you should stop posting larue targets etc in a Gap thread?

 

[BattleAxe]

Re: GA Precision GAP-10

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Poison123</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Maybe you should stop posting larue targets etc in a Gap thread? </div></div>
Some points you just can't argue

 

[355sigfan]

Re: GA Precision GAP-10

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Poison123</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Alaskapopo</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Poison123</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'm glad someone else hinted it....A Larue Fan boy crapping on a GAP thread.... </div></div>
I was a GAP owner well before I was a Larue fan. Sounds like we have a lot of GAP fan boys here that don't want to hear from anyone with any thing but good to say.
pat </div></div>

Maybe you should stop posting larue targets etc in a Gap thread? </div></div>
This all started when some one said the GAP would out shoot a Larue. That opened the door so to speak. Frankly GAP fans seem to be a bit sensitive. Its almost like your appologists. I had a rifle I was not quite happy with and for sharing that information in a GAP thread I have been flamed. Get over it. I can post on this thread as long as I follow the rules just as anyone else can. Down with censorship.
Pat

 

[Gray]

Re: GA Precision GAP-10

That is the SWEETEST semi-auto that I have ever seen, period!

 

[Rob01]

Re: GA Precision GAP-10

Mine is a standard .308 GAP-10 spec with 20" barrel, GAP Titan brake and PRS stock. Bartlein 11 twist 5R and the upper and lower are NP3 coated.

 

[poison123]

Re: GA Precision GAP-10

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Alaskapopo</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Poison123</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Alaskapopo</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Poison123</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'm glad someone else hinted it....A Larue Fan boy crapping on a GAP thread.... </div></div>
I was a GAP owner well before I was a Larue fan. Sounds like we have a lot of GAP fan boys here that don't want to hear from anyone with any thing but good to say.
pat </div></div>

Maybe you should stop posting larue targets etc in a Gap thread? </div></div>
This all started when some one said the GAP would out shoot a Larue. That opened the door so to speak. Frankly <span style="font-weight: bold">GAP fans seem to be a bit sensitive.</span> Its almost like your appologists. I had a rifle I was not quite happy with and for sharing that information in a GAP thread I have been flamed. Get over it. I can post on this thread as long as I follow the rules just as anyone else can. Down with censorship.
Pat </div></div>

Lets honestly not go there. Larue Fanboys are the worst on the net.

 

[Mike]

Re: GA Precision GAP-10

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Alaskapopo</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> I can post on this thread as long as I follow the rules just as anyone else can. Down with censorship.
Pat</div></div>

Actually Pat, you can't.

This isn't your thread, this isn't your site. You don't have any "rights" here. If you don't like the direction this thread is going, you're more than welcome to haul your ass back over to BARF.cum with the rest of the Larue minions.

 

[BattleAxe]

Re: GA Precision GAP-10

So what's the animosity towards Larue? Just asking out of pure curiosity as I don't pay attention to this kind of stuff. Somebody PM me the details as there no point dragging this thread through the mud. Inquiring minds want to know.

 

[NOMAD]

Re: GA Precision GAP-10

Mine is a standard .308 GAP-10 spec with 20" barrel, SureFire Magnum brake and PRS stock. Bartlein 11 twist 5R and the upper and lower are NP3 coated.

 

[355sigfan]

Re: GA Precision GAP-10

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mike</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Alaskapopo</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> I can post on this thread as long as I follow the rules just as anyone else can. Down with censorship.
Pat</div></div>

Actually Pat, you can't.

This isn't your thread, this isn't your site. You don't have any "rights" here. If you don't like the direction this thread is going, you're more than welcome to haul your ass back over to BARF.cum with the rest of the Larue minions. </div></div>
I am sorry but I did not see the moderator title in your profile. I am not bashing on GAP rather just sharing my experiences owning one. As for the comments towards Larue fans. We have a good reason to be fans. Larue makes great products that have never let me down. Again George is a good guy who tried to make it right but the gun never quite was. I sold it at a huge loss and that story is over. Would I buy another GAP autoloader no. Now a GAP bolt gun is a different story.
Pat

 

[The Lawn Ranger]

Re: GA Precision GAP-10

Interesting finish choice. I like the props to POF....<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: NOMAD</div><div class="ubbcode-body">She is all scoped up and ready for hopefully a range session tomorrow. We will see if I can make it happen!! Iknow she will be a shooter.

</div></div>

 

[Mike]

Re: GA Precision GAP-10

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Alaskapopo</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mike</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Alaskapopo</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> I can post on this thread as long as I follow the rules just as anyone else can. Down with censorship.
Pat</div></div>

Actually Pat, you can't.

This isn't your thread, this isn't your site. You don't have any "rights" here. If you don't like the direction this thread is going, you're more than welcome to haul your ass back over to BARF.cum with the rest of the Larue minions. </div></div>
I am sorry but I did not see the moderator title in your profile. I am not bashing on GAP rather just sharing my experiences owning one. As for the comments towards Larue fans. We have a good reason to be fans. Larue makes great products that have never let me down. Again George is a good guy who tried to make it right but the gun never quite was. I sold it at a huge loss and that story is over. Would I buy another GAP autoloader no. Now a GAP bolt gun is a different story.
Pat</div></div>

I don't give a shit what you say about GAP, good, bad or indifferent.

But if you want to make a Larue thread, make a Larue thread. This is a GAP-10 thread so take your Larue out of it.

 

[SS-8541-dono]

Re: GA Precision GAP-10

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Alaskapopo</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Poison123</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'm glad someone else hinted it....A Larue Fan boy crapping on a GAP thread.... </div></div>
I was a GAP owner well before I was a Larue fan. Sounds like we have a lot of GAP fan boys here that don't want to hear from anyone with any thing but good to say.
pat </div></div>

maybee to be fair and keep from whoring a good thread you could start the pre 2011 gap 308 semi auto thread and bash them all you want this thread is pertaining to a totally different rifle and like i said before the one i have shot will shoot 1/2 inch no problem if your having difficulty in shooting any better with yours im gonna call operator error.

 

[355sigfan]

Re: GA Precision GAP-10

For starters what changed in 2011 to make them better rifles now? Secondly as to operator error, it seems I can shoot well enough with my guns listed previous down to .55 moa. So if its operator error it would have to be along the lines of voodoo and praying to the GAP gods for the bullets to fly true. If the new GAP 10's are better thats great but I am reluctant to shell out the cash required for one when my last one did not meet my expectations.
Pat

 

[KNIGHT11B4]

Re: GA Precision GAP-10

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Alaskapopo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">For starters what changed in 2011 to make them better rifles now? Secondly as to operator error, it seems I can shoot well enough with my guns listed previous down to .55 moa. So if its operator error it would have to be along the lines of voodoo and praying to the GAP gods for the bullets to fly true. If the new GAP 10's are better thats great but I am reluctant to shell out the cash required for one when my last one did not meet my expectations.
Pat </div></div>

Your thoughts are noted... Move along