Garmin Xero C1 Pro chronograph

I missed some 22 on my first outing because I shot too fast. I was used to the magnetospeed that would pick up quick fire. One plus for the MS I suppose, but not needed in my case as long as I remember to slow down. Most of my chrono needs are bolt action.
For me all I’m using it for is reloading data which consists of slow accurate fire. I have all three chronos and never felt the urge to shoot fast on any of them.
Not speaking about you but I’ve seen other discussion groups where you can tell people are brand new chrono owners. Let me see if it’ll pick up full auto or rapid fire. For what reason and what purpose does it serve? I have zero clue. Not shitting on one’s free will but just an observation that makes me chuckle.
 
For me all I’m using it for is reloading data which consists of slow accurate fire. I have all three chronos and never felt the urge to shoot fast on any of them.
Not speaking about you but I’ve seen other discussion groups where you can tell people are brand new chrono owners. Let me see if it’ll pick up full auto or rapid fire. For what reason and what purpose does it serve? I have zero clue. Not shitting on one’s free will but just an observation that makes me chuckle.
Exactly. The only reason I ever did it with the MS is because I could.
 
It’s been discussed earlier in the thread. Pewpew was offering a discount code at the end of Oct for early December fulfillment.

They overextended themselves and got in trouble with Garmin. People who were early to the party got theirs on time. People like me who were late are still waiting.
Did people that ordered from Pewpew already get some delivered? Their email on 12/14 made it sound like the entire shipment was delayed from the 12/8 estimated time.

I ordered afternoon of 10/24. Figured I would be in the first batch. Ordered a few hours after it was posted to Reddit.
 
Did people that ordered from Pewpew already get some delivered? Their email on 12/14 made it sound like the entire shipment was delayed from the 12/8 estimated time.

I ordered afternoon of 10/24. Figured I would be in the first batch. Ordered a few hours after it was posted to Reddit.
I didn’t order til that night ☠️
 
Did people that ordered from Pewpew already get some delivered? Their email on 12/14 made it sound like the entire shipment was delayed from the 12/8 estimated time.

I ordered afternoon of 10/24. Figured I would be in the first batch. Ordered a few hours after it was posted to Reddit.
Someone on another forum got a shipment notification on 12/12 for a 10/24 order. If they are doing first come first served you must have just missed out on the first batch.
 
Same. We aren’t getting it until like February 2024 (my speculations)
The email they sent a couple weeks ago said the remaining units were slated to ship to them from Garmin this week and they would be shipping to customers next week.

If it gets delayed until Feb I’ll cancel my order. My LGS has a few in stock and I’d rather support them anyway(no offense to pew I just like to buy local when I can). Saving the $120 is great but a bird in the hand and all that.
 
The email they sent a couple weeks ago said the remaining units were slated to ship to them from Garmin this week and they would be shipping to customers next week.

If it gets delayed until Feb I’ll cancel my order. My LGS has a few in stock and I’d rather support them anyway(no offense to pew I just like to buy local when I can). Saving the $120 is great but a bird in the hand and all that.
I know what the emails said. We also seen that Garmin wasn’t pacing initial demand. PewPew did something crazy and have a significant discount and I’m sure their relative demand was dramatically higher than any other seller. So, I wouldn’t be surprised if February is when I get mine. I think it’s the realistic perspective rather than a disappointed perspective. I get the owners situation. Im cool with it.
 
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I know what the emails said. We also seen that Garmin wasn’t pacing initial demand. PewPew did something crazy and have a significant discount and I’m sure their relative demand was dramatically higher than any other seller. So, I wouldn’t be surprised if February is when I get mine. I think it’s the realistic perspective rather than a disappointed perspective. I get the owners situation. Im cool with it.
I understand how things got away from them with order volume at the initial discount. It’s easy to see why they weren’t able to hit their original target of the first part of December. I’m cool with that, I’m not going to lose my shit like the guy earlier in the thread.

However, by 12/14 they should have it figured out. I trust that the email they sent was factual and they know how many outstanding orders they have and what inventory is incoming. If they say first week of Jan and that actually means February like you are speculating it’s a different story. A good business under promises and over delivers, not the other way around.
 
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Ok, everyone should have their tracking numbers :) Looks like the next batch is shipping to us in two weeks. You guys have been awesome and we have shipped out over 200 of these units in less time than we quote you. We appreciate your patience and will open up the pre-orders again soon.

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Area 419 back in stock as of today...


NedVedPrecisionShooting also has in stock...

 
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Good find....but this is a java command line program...I don't keep java on my laptop. Can't remember all the details but I took java off for security reasons long ago and have no programs that require it so have not installed it again.

Now, I'm not a computer sci person, but that tool doesn't seem all that straightforward to my pea brain....emphasis on pea brain. LOL

Using FitCSVTool on Windows​

FitCSVTool.jar is a cross platform JAR (Java Archive) package file that can be used on most operating systems. To use FitCSVTool.jar on Windows the Oracle Java™ Runtime Environment 8 version 1.8.0 or higher, or equivalent Java Runtime Environment (JRE) or Java Development Kit (JDK), should be installed.
To verify that a JRE or JDK is installed correctly, from the Command Prompt enter the following command.
java -version

If Java is properly installed, a message will be displayed showing the version of Java that is installed. With Java correctly installed, FitCSVTool can now be used. FitCSVTool can be used from the command line, through drag-n-drop, or by associating the .FIT file extension with FitCSVTool.

Command Line​

FitCSVTool is included in the FIT SDK as a JAR package file and is designed to be used from the command line using the following syntax.
java -jar FitCSVTool.jar <options> <file>

When using FitCSVTool from the command line, the path to the FitCSVTool.jar and the path to the FIT file to convert need to be provided.
To convert one of the sample FIT files included with the SDK to a .csv file, from a command prompt, navigate to the location where the FIT SDK is installed and enter the following command.
java -jar .\java\FitCSVTool.jar .\examples\Activity.fit

The output file activity.csv will be created in the \examples folder.
C:\FitSDK>java -jar .\java\FitCSVTool.jar .\examples\activity.fit
FIT CSV Tool - Protocol 2.0 Profile 21.22 Release
FIT binary file .\examples\activity.fit decoded to .\examples\activity*.csv files.

In this example, the path to the jar file located in the /java folder and the path to a FIT file located in the /examples folder are provided. The relative or absolute path can be used. This is straightforward when working with files located in the FIT SDK folder but if the files are elsewhere on the hard drive then entering the path to the files may be a challenge. One solution to this is to add the path to the FitCSVTool.jar to the CLASSPATH environment variable so that it can be referenced without having to specify the path.

Drag-n-Drop​

An easier way to use FitCSVTool is to use one of the five batch files included in the SDK. These files are located in the same folder as FitCSVTool.jar. Drag-n-drop a FIT file onto any of the batch files and the output .csv files will be created in the same folder as the source FIT file. Viewing any of the batch files in a text editor will show that the batch files are using the same command line interface discussed above, with some batch files using additional Command Line Arguments.
To convert one of the sample FIT files included with the SDK to a .csv file by drag-n-drop, drag any of the FIT files from the \examples folder onto FitToCSV.bat. The output .csv file will be created in the \examples folder. The file system takes care of passing the full path of the FIT file to the batch file.
The drag-n-drop method is easier to use than the command line interface but it may require the use of two File Explorer windows which is not always convenient. Adding a shortcut to the batch files on the desktop is one option to simplify this process.
The batch files can also be used from the command prompt using the syntax:
FitToCSV.bat <filename>

The batch files are intended to be used on Windows only. The Using FitCSVTool on OSX recipe covers how to use the FitToCSV tool on OSX.

Associating Files with the .FIT file extension with FitCSVTool​

A more convenient way to use FitCSVTool is to associate files with the .FIT file extension with the FitToCSV.bat file. This will allow for double clicking on any FIT file to convert it to a .csv file.
To associate FIT files with FitToCSV.bat, right click on any FIT file and choose Properties.
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Windows Explorer.
From the Properties dialog change the program that all files with the .FIT extension are opened with. Choose FitToCSV.bat or one of the other batch files depending on the requirements.
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File properties.
Hit OK to apply the changes and close the Properties dialog box. Double clicking, or right clicking and choosing Open, on any FIT file will convert it to a .csv file. Make sure to unzip new versions of the FIT SDK to the same location to keep from having to update the file associations.
Had to quote the whole Caboodle to get a meaning how to.
As long as there is no better solution using a batch file will make it easier than not using it. I have created a "custom" batch file that will let you choose the filename of the FIT file that is converted to CSV format and saved. I will include the code used in the file, but for safety it's as a text file. You have to copy the text into a batch file to get it working. I'm still looking for a better solution.

Added a picture of the code as well.

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Mine, from Scheel's, was supposed to get here today. UPS blaming bad weather in the Midwest for the delay until Tuesday. :(
I hate it when new toys are late!
Judas Priest don’t get me started on the Friday UPS fuck up! Happens to me all the freakin time like clockwork with those dickheads, on incoming business supplies.

USPS and Fedex will delivery Sat. but UPS makes you wait until Monday evening. The word “expedite because we fucked up” is not in those assholes vocabulary.

The amount of excuses UPS comes up to miss Friday, is really quite amazing. The wind blows LATE, a mouse farts LATE, the snow flurries LATE! 😡 Oh, and then there is my favorite “the holidays”. As if the freaking holidays don’t happen every freaking year.

Ok caffeine has kicked in 😎
 
Judas Priest don’t get me started on the Friday UPS fuck up! Happens to me all the freakin time like clockwork with those dickheads, on incoming business supplies.

USPS and Fedex will delivery Sat. but UPS makes you wait until Monday evening. The word “expedite because we fucked up” is not in those assholes vocabulary.

The amount of excuses UPS comes up to miss Friday, is really quite amazing. The wind blows LATE, a mouse farts LATE, the snow flurries LATE! 😡 Oh, and then there is my favorite “the holidays”. As if the freaking holidays don’t happen every freaking year.

Ok caffeine has kicked in 😎
Sorry ... was just whining a little, not searching for an exposed wound. The UPS service around here is actually pretty reliable most of the time. That said, it would be nice if a Thursday f**k-up resulted in a Saturday delivery, whenever possible.
 
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Hey guys, we have another shipment on the way! Pre-Order quickly!!! https://cstactical.com/garmin-xero-c1-pro-chronograph/

-Richard

We have 10 available spots as of this post, it will ship to you next week :) No need to mess around trying to find a place that says they are in stock, you will get one from us in this next shipment if you pre-order now! Over 200 Garmins have moved out of our tiny shop!

 
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Ordered mine from Cabelas on Xmas using the Xmas gift card discount and military discount, it was $526 (tax included).
Arrived 12/29, and shot a few pellets in the basement. Picked up shots without a problem, the app works great, and the .csv output export to email is foolproof.

Photo of it next to the MagnetoSpeed Sporter and a Kestrel 5700 for comparison.

It’s a no brainer, get it and enjoy the simplicity and utility.
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Sorry ... was just whining a little, not searching for an exposed wound. The UPS service around here is actually pretty reliable most of the time. That said, it would be nice if a Thursday f**k-up resulted in a Saturday delivery, whenever possible.
In 20 years no one has screwed my business like UPS. Around here we call them dog-sled.

One time I had a new scope stuck for a week 100 miles aways. I figured it was stolen. After several phone calls, I finally got a lady supervisor “Apple” in the Philippines (with a literal rooster 🐓 crowing in the background) to tell me, it was sitting on the truck at the hub and they just didn’t have enough people to unload it. The truck and all its contents had simply been scanned into it without opening it.

Rooster not withstanding, Apple was awesome……

UPS just arrived while I am typing……my driver is outstanding!

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I'm not sure if this has been brought up before, but if and when it becomes tango uniform, there is no way to change the internal battery. It is my hope that a business like ColeTac will make a soft case for the unit and Area419 rail.
 
I'm not sure if this has been brought up before, but if and when it becomes tango uniform, there is no way to change the internal battery. It is my hope that a business like ColeTac will make a soft case for the unit and Area419 rail.

Well, I have not seen any pictures of the inside of the Xero C1 Pro. So I have no clue if the battery is replaceable. Anybody who knows/pics?
BTW, if the battery is gone you can still run the unit using a usb cable and a Powerbank.
 
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I'm not sure if this has been brought up before, but if and when it becomes tango uniform, there is no way to change the internal battery. It is my hope that a business like ColeTac will make a soft case for the unit and Area419 rail.
 
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As someone who has been satisfied with the LabRadar since 2016 and MS V3 since 2019, I wasn't all that eager to get a Garmin. But after getting one and running it, I have to say the small packing footprint and simplicity of use have pushed me to be a Xero C1 Pro fan and convert. https://www.ocabj.net/garmin-xero-c1-pro-chronograph-review/





 
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I wasn’t 100% satisfied with the LR or Magneto because of some quirks but at the end of the day they gave me what I wanted which was MV. I didn’t care for any other data to be honest.
As with many here I jumped on the Xero on release day and haven’t looked back. The Xero has been out two months now and everyone can agree it’s good to go and does the job.
If you’re on the fence just do it. I promise you it’s so much easier to use. I’m sure by now you’ve seen all the videos and reviews. What more do you want?
 
Field report: 12/30/23 - 37 deg F, winds 10-18 MPH

Shot 250+ total rounds, factory and hand loaded ammo, mix of 22LR, 223 Rem, 6.5 CM, 260 Rem out to 1200 yards with friends.
Lasted 5+ hours constant on and connected to phone.

Zero dropped shots using the OEM tripod.
I brought an Arca rail mount but never used it because it was so easy to aim and set up with just the tripod. I'm not implying that the rail mounted option is not needed, but when it works so well without it, the need never arose to mount it up especially among multiple shooters.

After each string, the shooters were able to email and review .csv files on both iOS and Android devices as we set up the next rifle and spotter. At the end of a shooter's session, I could email the .csv, move the Xero to the next bench, set up the new session, and be on the spotting scope in about 1 minute. An invaluable timesaving tool especially when teaching or helping a group get data.

One practical application that I had not used before because my chrono had been a barrel mounted Magnetospeed Sporter:
After breaking the shot at distance and a good trigger press was called, if it was an elevation related miss, a quick check of the last shot velocity in comparison to the average velocity would help us determine if we needed to adjust elevation or to re-engage (like in ELR matches).

Bottom line: extremely easy setup and user interface, timesaving, and a useful tool for long range post shot correction analysis.
A range buddy bough one the same day after using it.

YMMV, Happy New Year!
 
Mine missed 2 shots yesterday on my first session. Was shooting a 7mm-08 and like an idiot I selected the wrong velocity setting. Started a new session with the correct velocity setting and it didn't miss a single shot.