We shot today from the heated room. Abrupt weather change. My buddy here with his .300 black out. I was concerned shooting out that small window with the ledge and all. The Xero didn’t skip a beat or miss a shot…..
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I bluetooth the csv file directly to my Mac from the app, then open in Numbers. The attached is what that looks like. Pretty easy. Plus excel will open the CSV file directly, which also looks the same.Getting the data to the computer is as you say a hassle. First I have to export the csv file from the Xero C1 to my phone. Then send an e-mail with the csv file to my pc. Then convert the csv file to xlsx format. I have written a script to convert the csv file to xlsx format with the formatting I would like to implement, but still it's quite some work. Have tried the *.fit file way of doing it, but it's even worse. You can get the Garmin to connect with bluetooth to your PC. But you can't share data with it. I guess the csv converting is done on the phone. What the Xero C1 should do was creating a csv file on it's HDD. That way you could transfer it with USB cable to your PC.
Yeah, that's fine and easy enough for a single sessions. But when you have multiple "sessions" (like when one is doing OCW testing plus more than one gun), having to "bluetooth" each csv session file separately is a hassle. We should be able to select all the sessions we want to download and do it all in one "bluetooth" download operation.I bluetooth,the csv file directly to my Mac, then open in Numbers. The attached is what that looks like. Pretty easy. Plus excel will open the CSV file directly, which also looks the same.
Man that’s a sweet setup!We shot today from the heated room. Abrupt weather change. My buddy here with his .300 black out. I was concerned shooting out that small window with the ledge and all. The Xero didn’t skip a beat or miss a shot…..
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... or better yet ... add a slot for a SD card. At that point, with data on the card, everything is instantly portable to my PC.Yeah, that's fine and easy enough for a single sessions. But when you have multiple "sessions" (like when one is doing OCW testing plus more than one gun), having to "bluetooth" each csv session file separately is a hassle. We should be able to select all the sessions we want to download and do it all in on "bluetooth" download operation.![]()
I wouldn't be surprised if Garmin comes out with a new model of the Xero with that feature sometime in the not so near future. Until then, it's should be an easy software upgrade to make things easier.... or better yet ... add a slot for a SD card. At that point, with data on the card, everything is instantly portable to my PC.
I wouldn't be surprised if Garmin comes out with a new model of the Xero with that feature sometime in the not so near future. Until then, it's should be an easy software upgrade to make things easier.
Try opening the FIT file directly in Excel or Notepad?You don't need the SD card slot! If you plug in the USB cable from Xero to PC, it will show the disk drive with folders and files. The "problem" is that the Xero saves just FIT files. The Phone software converts from FIT to CSV. So, Garmin only needs to implement the file converter on the Xero from FIT to CSV.
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Well Santa came through. What are y’all using for small cases? I’d like one to protect it and just large enough to fit the garmin, area 419 rail (unmounted), factory tripod, and maybe a backup battery.
Try opening the FIT file directly in Excel or Notepad?
Bummer, was hoping it was like the .TRK from a LabRadar
Bummer, was hoping it was like the .TRK from a LabRadar
Problem is, I have tried 50-100 converters. No luck so far. The FIT format contains a lot of data not implemented in the Xero. So the phone app has special settings that performs the transformation. But Garmin knows how to...Maybe someone mentioned this in these 2000+ posts, but there’s some Fit to CSV converters out there:
3.19 gives me connection issues. It is intermittent with the phone vs ALWAYS ON prior to upgrade. Android, latest OS, etc.I think v3.19 is a little buggy. Had the Xero reset itself once after the first shot of a new string. Only happened once at the range. I looked in the Xero FB group and it seems like I’m not the only one. Zero issues with previous updates..
Can you share what you get when you use the app to convert it to a csv? Looking at the Garmin SDK as well as another tool to see about processing the new message types that the Xero is using. Would be good to see your resulting CSV to double check any data conversions I try or find are correct.Problem is, I have tried 50-100 converters. No luck so far. The FIT format contains a lot of data not implemented in the Xero. So the phone app has special settings that performs the transformation. But Garmin knows how to...
BTW, here is a zipped FIT file. (unpack file before trying to convert it). If you can get it converted as readable CSV file please add the link to the site/software.
We're on same page. I wouldn't expect people to use SDK for this. The SDK can 'read' the file but has no info on the data definition, field types or value types for the file you shared. With looking more to see how they map and the value types then a simple tool can be made.The Garmin SDK works, but it's not what I'm looking for. A web or exe tool would be faster and easier for most to use. Here is a Garmin csv file generated by the Iphone app.
No joke. In my early days of reloading (16) I managed to bust up 2 shooting crony’s with my 300 wby. I thought I hit it big when I got a pact. But damn you could only use it when the sun was out and you could get a good shadow.I know we’re making jokes about guys that have never had another chronographs, but in all seriousness, you guys will never appreciate the Garmin, like we veterans of other chronographs do…..lol
It’s probably like an Amish fella that used a horse and buggy his whole life, leaving the Amish community and getting his first brand new pick up truck.
It is. I have done the same transition as you. Using a chrono with sunshade seems only now days.No joke. In my early days of reloading (16) I managed to bust up 2 shooting crony’s with my 300 wby. I thought I hit it big when I got a pact. But damn you could only use it when the sun was out and you could get a good shadow.
Then I got a magneto speed which I loved except for the damn strap. In 6 years i only damaged 1 bayonet and the bullet barely touched it.
Never got a Labradar because I had friends that had them and they would bitch about getting them aimed, the cost, etc.
I can’t wait to use my new C1. It seems like the perfect chrono for me. Hopefully I can give it a try later this week.
Nice. My longest string to date has been 70 also with a rimfire. Zero missed.Did some 100yd shooting with the Vudoo yesterday. Decided to let the Garmin run for 100 rounds. Never missed a beat![]()
You can shoot quite a while until it has to charge up again. It’s a “fixed” battery.Anybody got info on battery life? Is it like the Labradar where you pretty much have to use it connected to a USB power block if you want to shoot more than 30 minutes? Or can you actually spend a day with it and recharge at the end of the day? Other question ... is it a "fixed" battery internal and unchangable, or does it use batteries that can be removed for recharging? Mine comes Friday, and I was just "pre-curious" about battery life.
I made three range trips - about 4 hours a piece. Had the Garmin on and used it the entire time, still had more than 50% battery life. The battery is internal and you can plug and external battery to it (USB-C) but I don’t think you will need to. Great product.Anybody got info on battery life? Is it like the Labradar where you pretty much have to use it connected to a USB power block if you want to shoot more than 30 minutes? Or can you actually spend a day with it and recharge at the end of the day? Other question ... is it a "fixed" battery internal and unchangable, or does it use batteries that can be removed for recharging? Mine comes Friday, and I was just "pre-curious" about battery life.
I haven't charged mine since October. Shot a few matches, practice, and general range session. My app says I've done 35 sessions.Anybody got info on battery life? Is it like the Labradar where you pretty much have to use it connected to a USB power block if you want to shoot more than 30 minutes? Or can you actually spend a day with it and recharge at the end of the day? Other question ... is it a "fixed" battery internal and unchangable, or does it use batteries that can be removed for recharging? Mine comes Friday, and I was just "pre-curious" about battery life.
You can extend the run time on a single charge by remembering to place the session on “Pause” when you aren’t actually shooting. Of course you also have to remember to “Resume” the session when you get ready to shoot again!I made three range trips - about 4 hours a piece. Had the Garmin on and used it the entire time, still had more than 50% battery life. The battery is internal and you can plug and external battery to it (USB-C) but I don’t think you will need to. Great product.
We shot today from the heated room. Abrupt weather change. My buddy here with his .300 black out. I was concerned shooting out that small window with the ledge and all. The Xero didn’t skip a beat or miss a shot…..
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Boom, just got tracking notification from PewPew Solutions for my Xero Preorder at the nicely discounted price.
Was $599 your nicely discounted price?Boom, just got tracking notification from PewPew Solutions for my Xero Preorder at the nicely discounted price.
I missed some 22 on my first outing because I shot too fast. I was used to the magnetospeed that would pick up quick fire. One plus for the MS I suppose, but not needed in my case as long as I remember to slow down. Most of my chrono needs are bolt action.Nice. My longest string to date has been 70 also with a rimfire. Zero missed.
20% less than that.Was $599 your nicely discounted price?
That was mine too, with $0 sales tax and free shipping.
Wow ... good for you. Where'd you get that discount?20% less than that.
Yes much better! This room was set up by older bench shooters. The benches are permanent and L shaped, which is an abomination to me. I just can’t lean sideways to get on my rifle for group teating. I have to get square behind it, which puts me on the end of the L. Then my muzzle won’t go out the window, like it’s supposed to. So I almost never shoot in there. I just brave the cold and bring a cooler for my ammo, to keep it warm for testing. I grew up working outside Maine so fortunately I’m pretty hearty.When I was stationed at Eielson AFB outside of Fairbanks, we used Dutch doors, so you could shoot standing or from prone and not let all the warm air out. Better, I think, than the window solution.
Sorry guys, I beat that by a mile……20% less than that.
You've got to be in the cool kids club.Wow ... good for you. Where'd you get that discount?
It’s been discussed earlier in the thread. Pewpew was offering a discount code at the end of Oct for early December fulfillment.Wow ... good for you. Where'd you get that discount?
For me all I’m using it for is reloading data which consists of slow accurate fire. I have all three chronos and never felt the urge to shoot fast on any of them.I missed some 22 on my first outing because I shot too fast. I was used to the magnetospeed that would pick up quick fire. One plus for the MS I suppose, but not needed in my case as long as I remember to slow down. Most of my chrono needs are bolt action.
Exactly. The only reason I ever did it with the MS is because I could.For me all I’m using it for is reloading data which consists of slow accurate fire. I have all three chronos and never felt the urge to shoot fast on any of them.
Not speaking about you but I’ve seen other discussion groups where you can tell people are brand new chrono owners. Let me see if it’ll pick up full auto or rapid fire. For what reason and what purpose does it serve? I have zero clue. Not shitting on one’s free will but just an observation that makes me chuckle.
Did people that ordered from Pewpew already get some delivered? Their email on 12/14 made it sound like the entire shipment was delayed from the 12/8 estimated time.It’s been discussed earlier in the thread. Pewpew was offering a discount code at the end of Oct for early December fulfillment.
They overextended themselves and got in trouble with Garmin. People who were early to the party got theirs on time. People like me who were late are still waiting.
I didn’t order til that nightDid people that ordered from Pewpew already get some delivered? Their email on 12/14 made it sound like the entire shipment was delayed from the 12/8 estimated time.
I ordered afternoon of 10/24. Figured I would be in the first batch. Ordered a few hours after it was posted to Reddit.
Someone on another forum got a shipment notification on 12/12 for a 10/24 order. If they are doing first come first served you must have just missed out on the first batch.Did people that ordered from Pewpew already get some delivered? Their email on 12/14 made it sound like the entire shipment was delayed from the 12/8 estimated time.
I ordered afternoon of 10/24. Figured I would be in the first batch. Ordered a few hours after it was posted to Reddit.