Garmin Xero C1 Pro chronograph

[beetroot]

Surely a battery bank makes this a non issue?
Everyone with a LR had one anyway and it's still a considerably small more compact package than a LR or MS.

The internal battery only has a 820 mAh capacity so even the smallest power bank with extended the battery life 500%.
You could even get one of the 18650 battery holder/chargers, the capacity of most 18650 cells is at 2000-3000mAh.

 

[Defender3]

Those of us who used the Labradar with it's eight internal batteries and 1-2 session battery life are chuckling at this back and forth. Many of us also have our left over 2000mAh externals we can plug in the Garmin as needed.

 

[JAS-SH]

How is everyone’s battery life? I feel like I am having to recharge it every other range outing. I expected much better.

I can do two 4 hour sessions with my Garmin before recharging, but those are bolt action sessions and include 10-minute cease fires every half hour or so. That is pushing the battery limit though. For a radar the size smaller than a cigarette pack that is amazing, The battery must be very small.

The caveat comes with semi autos - ARs. I fire my AR much faster than my bolt gun. The unit has to turn the radar on much more often and although I have not seen huge battery drain differences I'm sure more frequent firing has to have an effect on battery life.

 

[G1Grandeur]

sure they could have used higher capacity batteries, but then price increases as well.

 

[ocabj]

I charge maybe every 6-8 range sessions, but I don't leave my Garmin on in radar mode for long periods of time. I will shoot a string and end the string, or I pause the string if I'm idling about.

 

[Shoots 700's]

I just charge before going to the range

 

[Conqueror]

The caveat comes with semi autos - ARs. I fire my AR much faster than my bolt gun. The unit has to turn the radar on much more often and although I have not seen huge battery drain differences I'm sure more frequent firing has to have an effect on battery life.

To the best of my knowledge the Xero does not turn off the radar between shots, it’s always on, that’s why it doesn’t need a microphone or recoil trigger to know when you’ve fired. Any change in battery life with a semi-auto would just be from it having to compute velocities more frequently, and presumably that is far less power-hungry than the radar system.

 

[carbonbased]

Pro tip: Never charge a rechargeable battery when it’s cold. Seriously degrades them (including those in tools like Milwaukee etc).

Let them warm up to room temp. (Edit: at least above freezing)

 

[chevy_man]

sure they could have used higher capacity batteries, but then price increases as well.

It's as big as the size allows. If they put a massive battery in it everyone would complain about how big it is.

I plug mine into the truck since I already have 8 USB cords in there. I just hit it anytime it is getting low, and it easily lasts all day.

 

[G1Grandeur]

I know, I was referring to post above me.

Can't wait to get mine shipped out.

 

[Holliday]

Pro tip: Never charge a rechargeable battery when it’s cold. Seriously degrades them (including those in tools like Milwaukee etc).

Let them warm up to room temp.

I like to let them cooldown after use before charging too. Not sure if it matters but it seems like a good idea. I did not know about the cold.

 

[Baron23]

sure they could have used higher capacity batteries, but then price increases as well.

Weight and size more likely. Batteries aren’t that much, are they?

 

[Baron23]

To the best of my knowledge the Xero does not turn off the radar between shots, it’s always on, that’s why it doesn’t need a microphone or recoil trigger to know when you’ve fired. Any change in battery life with a semi-auto would just be from it having to compute velocities more frequently, and presumably that is far less power-hungry than the radar system.

I agree. Good points.

 

[carbonbased]

I like to let them cooldown after use before charging too. Not sure if it matters but it seems like a good idea. I did not know about the cold.

Yeah. I murdered a new Ryobi battery in one year by leaving it plugged in over the winter in MN.

The rechargeables tend to be able to withstand sitting in the cold, but as mentioned, charging in the cold (under 32°F) is tough on them. I think you’re right about the heat too, like charging them in a hot truck during AZ summer (but don’t quote me).

As far as 18650 rechargeables for thermals and headlamps etc, I have read that just using them in sub-32°F is hard on them too. Not sure about other rechargeables…but that’s not going to stop me from simply using them in the cold.

Obviously batteries are ultimately disposable, but I try not to hasten their eventual demise by cold-charging.

 

[TheOE800]

Yeah. I murdered a new Ryobi battery in one year by leaving it plugged in over the winter in MN.

The rechargeables tend to be able to withstand sitting in the cold, but as mentioned, charging in the cold (under 32°F) is tough on them. I think you’re right about the heat too, like charging them in a hot truck during AZ summer (but don’t quote me).

As far as 18650 rechargeables for thermals and headlamps etc, I have read that just using them in sub-32°F is hard on them too. Not sure about other rechargeables…but that’s not going to stop me from simply using them in the cold.

Obviously batteries are ultimately disposable, but I try not to hasten their eventual demise by cold-charging.

This reminds me of my rage against 12Ah Milwaukee M18 packs that died just outside the warranty. Fucking hosers.

 

[Steel+Killer]

My magneto is still on the same 9v for several years now.

Thats because every time you went to use it you were like "fuck it it's not worth the hassle".

 

[D̷e̷v̷i̷l̷D̷o̷c̷A̷Z̷]

Thats because every time you went to use it you were like "fuck it it's not worth the hassle".

This whole time I thought I was because no one here ever goes shooting. Lol

 

[carbonbased]

This reminds me of my rage against 12Ah Milwaukee M18 packs that died just outside the warranty. Fucking hosers.

Don’t know if cold-charging was involved, but I forgot to mention that I take all of my chargers inside for winter charging.

 

[TheOE800]

Don’t know if cold-charging was involved, but I forgot to mention that I take all of my chargers inside for winter charging.

It wasn’t they’re just shit.

 

[JAS-SH]

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old-charging was involved, but I forgot to mention that I take all of my chargers inside for winter charging.

I use my Makita

It wasn’t they’re just shit.

I use a Makita 3-amp, 18-volt cordless 2 maybe 3 times a month and I can't remember how long it's been since I charged batteries. It' incredible at holding a charge. The box lives in the garage which unlike further north it only sees winter temperatures in the mid to high 40-50's every year. Just yesterday I took down the flourecents (pain in the ass changing tubes) an installed all new ELD ceiling lights in the garage. Brightest damn room in the house now! Used same battery I've been using since July.

Best cordless drill I've ever used. I've never had to buy a new battery in over 8-years. Buy once cry once.

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[Garmin]

To the best of my knowledge the Xero does not turn off the radar between shots, it’s always on, that’s why it doesn’t need a microphone or recoil trigger to know when you’ve fired. Any change in battery life with a semi-auto would just be from it having to compute velocities more frequently, and presumably that is far less power-hungry than the radar system.

The radar DOES turn off if you're not in an active session. If you start a session and let it run all day that would be worst case battery life. If you shoot and then end or pause the session until you need it again it will greatly extend the battery life.

 

[SupressYourself]

I saw a few references in this thread about use at indoor ranges, mostly short pistol ranges. What is the likelihood it would work well at a 100 yard indoor rifle range where the walls, ceiling, and floor are concrete, and you may have another shooter within 5 or 6 feet on each side of you?

 

[Inline6]

I saw a few references in this thread about use at indoor ranges, mostly short pistol ranges. What is the likelihood it would work well at a 100 yard indoor rifle range where the walls, ceiling, and floor are concrete, and you may have another shooter within 5 or 6 feet on each side of you?

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Should work just fine, at matches with people on both sides of me. It only reads my shots.

 

[SupressYourself]

Should work just fine, at matches with people on both sides of me. It only reads my shots.

I'm not so much concerned about it reading neighbors shots as not reading at all, due to reflection off of concrete walls, ceiling, etc.

 

[Inline6]

I'm not so much concerned about it reading neighbors shots as not reading at all, due to reflection off of concrete walls, ceiling, etc.

As long as you are clear for 20-30 yards in front of you. Should be good to go.

 

[Conqueror]

The radar DOES turn off if you're not in an active session. If you start a session and let it run all day that would be worst case battery life. If you shoot and then end or pause the session until you need it again it will greatly extend the battery life.

Yeah I did not mean the radar is on at ALL times, I thought that was obvious. I was just correcting the previous poster who said the radar turned off after every shot in a string.

 

[1911Shootist]

I'm not so much concerned about it reading neighbors shots as not reading at all, due to reflection off of concrete walls, ceiling, etc.

Mine works fine shooting through ~5’ diameter concrete culverts that are ~20’ long. I’d expect it to work great at that indoor range.

 

[Andielouroo]

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[G1Grandeur]

quick question, is it normal that when I plug charging cable, it automatically turns on?

 

[Guns&WhiteWater]

Another quick question… does anybody else's Xero create duplicates of a shot series when it downloads to your phone? Mine has had up to 7 duplicates with one duplicate being the norm.

 

[opeagle]

I have never had that issue.

 

[straightshooter1]

quick question, is it normal that when I plug charging cable, it automatically turns on?

Yes, but only when the cable is plugged into a power source.

 

[G1Grandeur]

Yes, but only with the cable is plugged into a power source.

thanks.

I don't know why they set it up like that, that's odd.

 

[straightshooter1]

Another quick question… does anybody else's Xero create duplicates of a shot series when it downloads to your phone? Mine has had up to 7 duplicates with one duplicate being the norm.

No. When the Zero finishes connecting to my phone, it downloads each undownloaded series with no duplicates.

 

[Guns&WhiteWater]

No. When the Zero finishes connecting to my phone, it downloads each undownloaded series with no duplicates.

This only started happening recently. Just a minor inconvenience to have to delete a dozen or so duplicates every now and then, so no complaints here.

 

[straightshooter1]

This only started happening recently. Just a minor inconvenience to have to delete a dozen or so duplicates every now and then, so no complaints here.

Have you tried a factory reset?

1. Turn off the chronograph
2. Press and hold OK and XeroC1DownArrow
3. Press PWR to turn on the device
4. Release OK when the Xero logo appears
5. Continue to hold XeroC1DownArrow until the device starts

 

[Guns&WhiteWater]

Have you tried a factory reset?

1. Turn off the chronograph
2. Press and hold OK and XeroC1DownArrow
3. Press PWR to turn on the device
4. Release OK when the Xero logo appears
5. Continue to hold XeroC1DownArrow until the device starts

I have not, but thank you for that information. I will definitely try it.

 

[G1Grandeur]

and I am assuming firmware is up to date?