Getting pretty excited

[308220]

Ya, you can see the gear on the cloths lines and know opening is coming—

Judging by your post, youre very disgusted by seeing gear on "clothes lines" near the start of deer season.

 

[Veer_G]

Judging by your post, youre very disgusted by seeing gear on "clothes lines" near the start of deer season.

It's getting aired out to remove as much man smell as possible. Deer hunting is pursued with almost religious fervor in PA. It's also only somewhat less expensive than body work when you harvest one behind the wheel.

 

[ArmyJerry]

Range war.... let them get on with it.

It's shared land. How do you think Bundy would have reacted had someone else put their cows there too? Range war?

 

[308220]

It's getting aired out to remove as much man smell as possible. Deer hunting is pursued with almost religious fervor in PA. It's also only somewhat less expensive than body work when you harvest one behind the wheel.

Im in Ohio. On the border of WV. Ohio, WV and PA are the deer hunting capitals of the US per population (last I checked). Yet, in all of my 34 years of life, none of my deer hunting (in OH/WV) relatives or friends literally hang their clothes on the "clothes lines" for opening day. They all shoot big bucks every year. Also, when Im out in the oil patch, I see a lot of back woods people and homes. Very, very rarely do I see a hunting jacket hanging outside in early november. Im in Ohio/WV on a daily basis.

I find this hard to believe. If hanging your gear on clothes lines was the be all and end all of deer hunters, why didnt it spill over into bordering states? Unless 1 guy, back in 1974 saw 3 homes within a mile of each other, with their hunting gear hung on clothes lines in early november and it got passed down the generations that "everybody does it". Its either gossip, or a colossal waste of good hunting gear.

Just my $0.02

 

[Veer_G]

Im in Ohio. On the border of WV. Ohio, WV and PA are the deer hunting capitals of the US per population (last I checked). Yet, in all of my 34 years of life, none of my deer hunting (in OH/WV) relatives or friends literally hang their clothes on the "clothes lines" for opening day. They all shoot big bucks every year. Also, when Im out in the oil patch, I see a lot of back woods people and homes. Very, very rarely do I see a hunting jacket hanging outside in early november. Im in Ohio/WV on a daily basis.

I find this hard to believe. If hanging your gear on clothes lines was the be all and end all of deer hunters, why didnt it spill over into bordering states? Unless 1 guy, back in 1974 saw 3 homes within a mile of each other, with their hunting gear hung on clothes lines in early november and it got passed down the generations that "everybody does it". Its either gossip, or a colossal waste of good hunting gear.

Just my $0.02

Perhaps there's a lack of sophistication amongst your brethren? Scent control and elimination is just about gospel from Altoona eastward.

 

[ArmyJerry]

Too many deer,

 

[308220]

Why do you need a permit to use land that you own.

Camping, hunting, fishing and shooting is mostly what BLM (public) property is used for. Public land is for everybody and everything. Not just 1 rancher with XXXX amount of cattle shitting all over it and eating all the fresh grass. If that was the case, a guy who never paid a cent in taxes in his life could move out to wyoming, lay claim to a few thousand acres, build a house, start a hunting ranch and live the good life. For FREE! As you can see, this would quickly spiral out of control without some regulations.


I fully supported the Bundys. And it was my understanding that the land was already theirs, right? Or something like that. Saw different stories. "Grazing fees" are bullshit anyway. All land owners should send the states and local gov. invoices and pic/video evidence of all the wildlife that graze on their land throughout the year

 

[ArmyJerry]

well, I dont like teh fed gov controlling any land, its not really Constitutional, other than required for forts and needed buildings of government.

 

[308220]

Perhaps there's a lack of sophistication amongst your brethren? Scent control and elimination is just about gospel from Altoona eastward.

I dont think that is the case. I think its just a big waste of time, if its even true or not. Bobcats are arguably the hardest animals to hunt in the US. You dont see or hear of bobcat hunters hanging their clothes outside on the 3rd day of november when the sun is highest in the sky, front facing south west.

 

[Diver160651]

Judging by your post, youre very disgusted by seeing gear on "clothes lines" near the start of deer season.

It was a mediphor — and why would I be disgusted - We had Elk and wild Hog leg stakes last night all harvested not bought. Unfortunately I over cooked the hog a tiny bit

 

[Rthur]

Perhaps there's a lack of sophistication amongst your brethren? Scent control and elimination is just about gospel from Altoona eastward.

While it may not hurt fooling their noses is very uncommon.
This is a good a tool as can be purchased:

3-5 bucks.

R

 

[DuneBoer]

Camping, hunting, fishing and shooting is mostly what BLM (public) property is used for. Public land is for everybody and everything. Not just 1 rancher with XXXX amount of cattle shitting all over it and eating all the fresh grass. If that was the case, a guy who never paid a cent in taxes in his life could move out to wyoming, lay claim to a few thousand acres, build a house, start a hunting ranch and live the good life. For FREE! As you can see, this would quickly spiral out of control without some regulations.


I fully supported the Bundys. And it was my understanding that the land was already theirs, right? Or something like that. Saw different stories. "Grazing fees" are bullshit anyway. All land owners should send the states and local gov. invoices and pic/video evidence of all the wildlife that graze on their land throughout the year

Bundy owns exactly 160 acres. Thats it. grazing fees are bullshit? The Taylor Grazing Act passed by congress was instituted because the Ranchers came to the government to do something about the range being so over grazed no one could raise anything. Range wars? We had them until the gov stepped in and made grazing districts stopping the range wars.

Bundys had a permit. He got stupid and stopped paying his grazing fees. Grazing fees that are heavily subsidized and about 1/10 of what it cost to graze on private land. Grazing fees that thousands of ranchers pay each year without any problem. Ranchers that are the true stewards of the land. Grazing on public land is not a right. If you want to log on a national forest you have to bid on a timber sale. If you want to graze on BLM you have to get a permit and pay the fees. If you want to drill for oil you got to get a permit and pay. The Bundys Mormon heritage makes them think they can do what ever they want where they live. They are special.

Sure, sell off all the public land to private companies. Ask permission to take you your kid fishing/hunting where it used to be public. If I wanted to be a Yankee or a Texan I would move there.

 

[QuickNDirty]

While it may not hurt fooling their noses is very uncommon.
This is a good a tool as can be purchased:
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3-5 bucks.

R

I've been doing a lot of experimentation with illegal/out of season deer the last two years.

What I've found is that:
1.) Vaping doesn't seem to bother the deer around here. I've let out a big cloud within 20 yards of (from elevated and ground positions) does and bucks that were looking at me at various times during the season and haven't spooked them.
2.) The product "EverCalm" actually seems to work. It's not the cheapest thing around, but one stick has lasted me 3 seasons so far, and is still going. I apply it to 4wheeler tires, bottom of my boots, palms of my gloves, shoulders, ass, and knees. Anywhere I might make contact with the Earth/vegetation. The claims of "calming" the deer I can't say for sure are true, but it's definitely something they pay attention to (sniffing my footsteps, for example) without being alarmed by it.

I think it's pretty cool that by just washing my gear in scent free detergent and keeping it stored in a sealed container I can apply a little EC and trudge through a game trail in dense brush til I find a nice clearing and just set up out of the way a little bit and have deer come right through the same trail without paying much attention to me.

My problem these days is figuring out where the big ass bucks hang out. They're not rubbing/scraping where they used to, and despite my best efforts I haven't found a single rub or scrape anywhere. They're bedding in the same areas, though. We've got big ones on the cameras, and I've seen little bucks and does, but did not see a single good size buck all season. The rut didn't seem to work out where I'm at, either.

 

[Rthur]

I've been doing a lot of experimentation with illegal/out of season deer the last two years.

What I've found is that:
1.) Vaping doesn't seem to bother the deer around here. I've let out a big cloud within 20 yards of (from elevated and ground positions) does and bucks that were looking at me at various times during the season and haven't spooked them.
2.) The product "EverCalm" actually seems to work. It's not the cheapest thing around, but one stick has lasted me 3 seasons so far, and is still going. I apply it to 4wheeler tires, bottom of my boots, palms of my gloves, shoulders, ass, and knees. Anywhere I might make contact with the Earth/vegetation. The claims of "calming" the deer I can't say for sure are true, but it's definitely something they pay attention to (sniffing my footsteps, for example) without being alarmed by it.

I think it's pretty cool that by just washing my gear in scent free detergent and keeping it stored in a sealed container I can apply a little EC and trudge through a game trail in dense brush til I find a nice clearing and just set up out of the way a little bit and have deer come right through the same trail without paying much attention to me.

My problem these days is figuring out where the big ass bucks hang out. They're not rubbing/scraping where they used to, and despite my best efforts I haven't found a single rub or scrape anywhere. They're bedding in the same areas, though. We've got big ones on the cameras, and I've seen little bucks and does, but did not see a single good size buck all season. The rut didn't seem to work out where I'm at, either.

View attachment 7008778

In my experience those tricks work on average deer.
Does and knot heads so to speak.
Hoss hasn't any tolerance.
Either fool him by stand location/site entrance or you'll not see him before dark.

R