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Sidearms & Scatterguns Glocks Work. Period. End of Story.
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Center mass is good... till you start practicing for when it's no good and you need to hit a much smaller target in a different spot.
But these days I keep an AR by the bed for the 4am fucker with a machete.
Get a 500 S&W or get PUSSY tattooed on your forehead.
Anything else is crap and means you love trying to gag on a salami.
I need one of those little shotties to put under my rail on my AR. All redneck tactical awesome.
And some multicam boxers to look cool while surfing the net in my grandmas basement.
Anything else is crap and means you love trying to gag on a salami.
I need one of those little shotties to put under my rail on my AR. All redneck tactical awesome.
And some multicam boxers to look cool while surfing the net in my grandmas basement.
Well, I still like regular woodland.
Or the KUiU one. Looks like woodland kinda, not that digital one.
Guess I am old.
I do not like Kryptek. Just not my thing.
With Kryptek comes listening to hip hop while reloading like @ArmyJerry does.
Or the KUiU one. Looks like woodland kinda, not that digital one.
Guess I am old.
I do not like Kryptek. Just not my thing.
With Kryptek comes listening to hip hop while reloading like @ArmyJerry does.
Word on the street is one time Chuck Norris roundhouse kicked a Glock and it broke his leg.
Still don't get this thread. A bunch of guns work. Do they all need a dedicated brand or model specific thread?
Glocks do work. I still hold a series of other handguns close as “combat effective” however. People talk about reliability and so forth, every mechanical device built by humans have the potential to fail. I think on my 19 gen 3 the extractor/ejector combo was bad. They made me go through a armorer, then had me send it in and replace the parts that’s we’re having weak and eradic ejection and that was that. Problem solved. It’s up to the user to validate the weapons performance ability.
We need an SAA / cap and ball revolver / Guns of the Old West thread. Porn for trad fans and shooters.
I might do one. Gonna scrounge up a bunch of pics and vids.
Bring it ! I do love my Glocks but I have a great love for old wheel guns and rifles. Especially break action revolvers. Really feeling the need for a nice coach gun !
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Now we both know there are not different levels but, in some venues turning the switch is required an that is the final curtain call, unless the up standing COC voter is using a release, then they still get the last vote,...⚖
Luckily most assholes don't have that ability or clue thereof,... but this is the web.
The very bottom edge/corner of many Glock pistols has a very sharp angle. I like to just barely break the sharp point off that corner so it doesn't catch on aluminum cases. So far, it has seemed to solve the issue. But I will admit that even without that corner broken, Glock's seldom catch aluminum cases. Decades ago (IIRC around the beginning of Gen II) Glock wanted all the pistols at my agency to re-fit, and the extractors were one of the things they swapped out because some had the corner of the extractor broken off. I think they had a batch that was heat treated too hard, but that was when I started just rounding the corner of the extractor, and it worked.
Glock fanboys have penis envy, therefore, they must shout from the rooftops that their choice is far superior to anything else ever created.
They need to justify their choice.
For old school classics, I really like the Schofield replica pistols by Uberti, they balance and handle really well & shoot amazingly. The Russian variant is cool if you want to shoot on the move a lot.
I have a bunch of those along with an old fashioned style side by side breach loading shotgun with exposed hammers and double triggers and then a 45/70 with a huge long hexagonal barrel and the double trigger system.
What happened was the went to a molded extractor. The ejector angle is sometimes on a weak angle. They put the 336 ejector (or whatever gen 5 is) in. Works flawless. I don’t touch extractors or ejectors unless it’s on a 1911 and I’m fitting new parts
You talk a lot about the penis. Seems to be a source of attraction for you. Is there something you want to share? It's ok. This is a safe space.
Q-tips work. Period. End of story.
Now that I've come down to your level maybe we can have a rational discussion about the point you're trying to make with this thread.
Picking up my new Glock 21 from my FFL dealer tomorrow. Feels mighty good to have another piece of equipment capable of slinging the same 230-grainers as my Auto-Ordnance 1911 does.
I just saw a "Gucci" Glock up for sale.
What makes people think they are worth so much money?
Base gun $600, stipple job $200, fancy slide $400 nice barrel $150, nice trigger $100, sell the slide and barrel -$350.
That seems about $1,100 or $1,200 worth of gun new but people want more used?
Weird.
My Glocks are project guns I fool around with, plain slide, DIY stipple but they do the same thing for a lot less.
About 3 years ago, I spent about the same money as that "Gucci Glock" on a used pre-war commercial Colt 1911 custom job done up by a master smith.
It was sitting in a popular gun shop tempting me for several months so it wasn't like I paid below market for it.
The market seems to be nuts, a custom Glock done with a soldering iron and a CNC should never be worth more than a hand fit and tuned up 1911.
What makes people think they are worth so much money?
Base gun $600, stipple job $200, fancy slide $400 nice barrel $150, nice trigger $100, sell the slide and barrel -$350.
That seems about $1,100 or $1,200 worth of gun new but people want more used?
Weird.
My Glocks are project guns I fool around with, plain slide, DIY stipple but they do the same thing for a lot less.
About 3 years ago, I spent about the same money as that "Gucci Glock" on a used pre-war commercial Colt 1911 custom job done up by a master smith.
It was sitting in a popular gun shop tempting me for several months so it wasn't like I paid below market for it.
The market seems to be nuts, a custom Glock done with a soldering iron and a CNC should never be worth more than a hand fit and tuned up 1911.
Funny to read folks having emotional fits about what others choose to purchase. If somebody likes to trick out Glocks, more power to them. My favorite fun gun for range use is a modified Glock 34 Gen 5 MOS with frame reshaping and extra large beaver tail by ROBAR, a competition trigger kit from Johnny Glocks, Dawson fiber optic sights, a KKM match barrel threaded and an Aimpoint ACRO P-1.
First, Glocks have no scarcity. There are lots of 1911s but lots of demand too.
Not all 1911s are made with the materials and precision to make a good basis for a custom so any really nice custom starts with something that was already nicer than average.
All Glocks are pretty much the same so no scarcity and any gun will do to make a custom.
Looking at materials again, anything you have to do with a 1911 frame is going to be harder than doing with plastic.
Looking at design, a 1911 takes lots of fitting to ensure proper feeding, accuracy and durability. This might be considered a flaw but it takes time and tooling.
Glocks usually use drop-in parts that require minimal fitting. This is the advantage of the CNC age but you can't tell me something that happens for free should cost the same as precise gunsmith fitting that takes time.
I'm not saying Glocks and custom Glocks aren't nice, it's just like comparing a Thompson machine gun to a 9mm AR15. The Thompson is always going to be worth more because it's steel and the way they were made is labor intensive and expensive. The AR is man Legos, if you start with a pile of well made parts, anyone decently handy can turn it in to a nice looking, functional rifle in 2-3 hours at probably half the cost or less.
On a custom Glock, the biggest labor is the stipple job and some people are using laser cutters to do it now. The rest of a custom job is install sights and slap it together. I'm having trouble seeing why that is worth a large premium even when the gun is used.
A custom Glock might shoot as well as a custom 1911 but that's a different issue and the 1911 trigger is probably going to win.
Lastly, even if you remove the 1911 economics, the custom Glocks I see are overpriced for what they are.
Not all 1911s are made with the materials and precision to make a good basis for a custom so any really nice custom starts with something that was already nicer than average.
All Glocks are pretty much the same so no scarcity and any gun will do to make a custom.
Looking at materials again, anything you have to do with a 1911 frame is going to be harder than doing with plastic.
Looking at design, a 1911 takes lots of fitting to ensure proper feeding, accuracy and durability. This might be considered a flaw but it takes time and tooling.
Glocks usually use drop-in parts that require minimal fitting. This is the advantage of the CNC age but you can't tell me something that happens for free should cost the same as precise gunsmith fitting that takes time.
I'm not saying Glocks and custom Glocks aren't nice, it's just like comparing a Thompson machine gun to a 9mm AR15. The Thompson is always going to be worth more because it's steel and the way they were made is labor intensive and expensive. The AR is man Legos, if you start with a pile of well made parts, anyone decently handy can turn it in to a nice looking, functional rifle in 2-3 hours at probably half the cost or less.
On a custom Glock, the biggest labor is the stipple job and some people are using laser cutters to do it now. The rest of a custom job is install sights and slap it together. I'm having trouble seeing why that is worth a large premium even when the gun is used.
A custom Glock might shoot as well as a custom 1911 but that's a different issue and the 1911 trigger is probably going to win.
Lastly, even if you remove the 1911 economics, the custom Glocks I see are overpriced for what they are.
Not entirely true, many Chinese made 1911's were customized, as the hammer forged frames were excellent, though inexpensive.
Yes, I have a Norinco and there are many Smiths who won't work on it due to the difficulty in machining the steel. A lot of people say the frames and slides are stronger than a Colt or other quality USA forged 1911.
I'm not sure how many of those are in the US but probably not too many before the import ban.
Today they aren't cheap unless the seller doesn't know what they have.
I'm not sure how many of those are in the US but probably not too many before the import ban.
Today they aren't cheap unless the seller doesn't know what they have.
I am not trying to say anything other what I have said. You just keep saying stupid things.
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On a custom Glock, the biggest labor is the stipple job
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Grimace. I cringe every time I hear 'Glock stippling'...
I understand why some people would find it tactically useful, ie. better grip and weapon retention if hands are wet, numbed by cold, etc,.
But I have seen too many photos of bad stippling jobs. Holy mother of God they look awful. Like some alien honeycomb nest about to hatch brain worms or some shit like that. I needed eye bleach after seeing those. Armslist is notorious for people putting these up for sale. Like bro, how much resale value do you think this thing has now after your soldering iron Bubba job?
That said, my new Glock 21 fits and feels perfectly in my hands. Modifications would be a sacrilege, unless there is an internal feeding / cycling issue, which there is none. 20 rounds quick pre-test all worked fine.
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On a custom Glock, the biggest labor is the stipple job
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Grimace. I cringe every time I hear 'Glock stippling'...
I understand why some people would find it tactically useful, ie. better grip and weapon retention if hands are wet, numbed by cold, etc,.
But I have seen too many photos of bad stippling jobs. Holy mother of God they look awful. Like some alien honeycomb nest about to hatch brain worms or some shit like that. I needed eye bleach after seeing those. Armslist is notorious for people putting these up for sale. Like bro, how much resale value do you think this thing has now after your soldering iron Bubba job?
That said, my new Glock 21 fits and feels perfectly in my hands. Modifications would be a sacrilege, unless there is an internal feeding / cycling issue, which there is none. 20 rounds quick pre-test all worked fine.
This below is probably the only kind of grip upgrade I would find acceptable. I might actually get it for my G-21. A perfect blend of professional and tactical.
Yeah, a lot of stipple jobs look bad.
I'm about to do my Glocks but I got a magazine well block, a spin indexer, an XY table and I'm going to mount my soldering iron to my drill press quill so I can lay out my pattern exactly.
I have a couple other tricks I want to try, secret sauce...
Of course I wouldn't value my custom stipple commensurate with my labor if I ever sell, I'm going to spend too much time getting it to feel right in my hand.
Everything else pretty much drops in or only needs minor fitting.
If I want it to look fancy I can get my slide CNC cut or buy one that way.
It's a lot easier to do that than try to tool up and attempt checkering on a 1911 front strap (which is only one step in a nice custom 1911).
Good luck with your project man. And make sure there is absolutely nothing that will distract you or rush you as you proceed. Slow and careful is the key here.
I have hand-checkered the grips on a pair of Colt Model 1860's a while back for a shooter who wanted them modified to the "Blackjack Table" configuration. (Barrel cut down to just a tad longer than snubnose. Muzzle crown and edges rounded. Blade style front sight. Loading lever removed and recoil shield machined out / cold blued for use with a gated conversion cylinder). I have done checkering jobs but still decided to do a bit of a test run on a grip blank before proceeding on the actual guns. Whole thing turned pretty awesome and he was more than satisfied with the results.
Not cheap at all. And for the most part, it was the checkering that demanded the most amount of work time. We agreed to a total of $700 for both pistols. That is more than the sales counter price for the basic stock pistols (Mfg. Pietta). But it is probably a lot less than what a professional gunsmith would have charged.
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