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I wrote this up for a buddy who was caught up in typical gun forum debates over Glock and how Glock does not "innovate" and ... well, you know how it goes. FWIW...
Re. Glock and innovation...
Here's the deal...Glock has provided the world with the most combat-tested, combat-proven firearm ever invented, selling hundreds of millions of them. They are easy to use. Easy to maintain. Easy to shoot. A trained monkey can field strip them. An average IQ human can detail strip them. There are tens of thousands of after-market parts and gizmos for them. You can customize them to your heart's content.
But on the other hand, they perform reliably and consistently right out of the box, even with their stock crappy sights. They get the job done. They are intended to be and always have been combat-accurate handguns useful for CQB situations of every description. They are legendarily resistant to abusive environmental conditions and abusive human operators.
Glock does not need to "innovate" ... they just need to keep their quality control strong and keep churning out these marvelous polymer-framed wonder guns.
The Glock inspires endless online debates among mostly keyboard warriors who have never gone in harms way, never experienced the terror and thrill of the two-way range and have never heard, let alone fired, a single bullet fired in anger in their lives, and hopefully never will. Let these types debate, whine, cry and otherwise */moan/debate about Glock not "innovating" all they want. The rest of us will just smile and nod and say, "That's nice, honey."
Glocks work. Period. End of story.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1VD1D1hLsQ
Most the grownups left this conversation about page 3.
What the hell happened to the ceiling?Match grade barrel good trigger & practice they are the M4 of hand guns with AK reliability.View attachment 7044814View attachment 7044814
I wrote this up for a buddy who was caught up in typical gun forum debates over Glock and how Glock does not "innovate" and ... well, you know how it goes. FWIW...
Re. Glock and innovation...
Here's the deal...Glock has provided the world with the most combat-tested, combat-proven firearm ever invented, selling hundreds of millions of them. They are easy to use. Easy to maintain. Easy to shoot. A trained monkey can field strip them. An average IQ human can detail strip them. There are tens of thousands of after-market parts and gizmos for them. You can customize them to your heart's content.
But on the other hand, they perform reliably and consistently right out of the box, even with their stock crappy sights. They get the job done. They are intended to be and always have been combat-accurate handguns useful for CQB situations of every description. They are legendarily resistant to abusive environmental conditions and abusive human operators.
Glock does not need to "innovate" ... they just need to keep their quality control strong and keep churning out these marvelous polymer-framed wonder guns.
The Glock inspires endless online debates among mostly keyboard warriors who have never gone in harms way, never experienced the terror and thrill of the two-way range and have never heard, let alone fired, a single bullet fired in anger in their lives, and hopefully never will. Let these types debate, whine, cry and otherwise *****/moan/debate about Glock not "innovating" all they want. The rest of us will just smile and nod and say, "That's nice, honey."
Glocks work. Period. End of story.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1VD1D1hLsQ
I carry a gun for a living, and there isn't another handgun on the planet I would carry over my glock 17. I trust my glock more than my dog, and that says a lot.
I have a Gen 2 17 that easily has 9-10 thousand rounds through it. The only parts replaced are the firing pin and a small spring.
It’s not a tack driver. However, it still goes bang every time and within 50 feet it would be unwise to challenge it..
I wrote this up for a buddy who was caught up in typical gun forum debates over Glock and how Glock does not "innovate" and ... well, you know how it goes. FWIW...
Re. Glock and innovation...
Here's the deal...Glock has provided the world with the most combat-tested, combat-proven firearm ever invented, selling hundreds of millions of them. They are easy to use. Easy to maintain. Easy to shoot. A trained monkey can field strip them. An average IQ human can detail strip them. There are tens of thousands of after-market parts and gizmos for them. You can customize them to your heart's content.
But on the other hand, they perform reliably and consistently right out of the box, even with their stock crappy sights. They get the job done. They are intended to be and always have been combat-accurate handguns useful for CQB situations of every description. They are legendarily resistant to abusive environmental conditions and abusive human operators.
Glock does not need to "innovate" ... they just need to keep their quality control strong and keep churning out these marvelous polymer-framed wonder guns.
The Glock inspires endless online debates among mostly keyboard warriors who have never gone in harms way, never experienced the terror and thrill of the two-way range and have never heard, let alone fired, a single bullet fired in anger in their lives, and hopefully never will. Let these types debate, whine, cry and otherwise *****/moan/debate about Glock not "innovating" all they want. The rest of us will just smile and nod and say, "That's nice, honey."
Glocks work. Period. End of story.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1VD1D1hLsQ
What the hell happened to the ceiling?
POPO,... would be my guess.What the hell happened to the ceiling?
There are many on here,... who believe,... there are different levels,... of dead.I have a Gen 2 17 that easily has 9-10 thousand rounds through it. The only parts replaced are the firing pin and a small spring.
It’s not a tack driver. However, it still goes bang every time and within 50 feet it would be unwise to challenge it..
While that it not unlikely, i can tell you that i have witnessed the same from military folks, as well as any number of FUDDS at the range.POPO,... would be my guess.
My main complaints in the past with Glock were the shitty ergonomics, the stupid finger grooves and the balance. The 19x has basically fixed all of this as well as has the option to include a beavertail via the grip.
I'm far from a Glock fan, but after comparing it to the Beretta I carried, and own the M9A3, the H&K P8 I've carried and own a USP and other 'non issue' pistols I have as well, and the 19x is exceptional. The only other pistol I had an option to carry and absolutely did not like was the SIG P226 but that mainly had to do with my 'high thumbs' grip and the fact that it would depress the slide stop under recoil to not have the slide lock back on an empty magazine 50% of the time. I stay away from any SIG that has the slide stop where the 226 has it.
Other Glocks are still gay though.
Have you tried out the H&K VP9 or VP9T or VP9SK yet?
Have you tried out the H&K VP9 or VP9T or VP9SK yet?
I have not. The grip angle/position always looked weird to me, like its too far forward. Could just be an optical illusion.
I'd be open to trying one and may end up liking it, but the last thing I need is another handgun in 9mm
The glock is a fleshlight. Later models have ribs and shit inside.
The VP9 is a 22 year old virgin hot chick who has been begging you to come in her for the last 2 hours. And she said she wanted to do anal her first night out too.
Both work.
The VP9 will now be officially known as the Mormon chick of pistols.
I'm not sure about his experience, but I haven't found any great need to go beyond the P2000/P30 level of development.
Striker Fired vs Hammer Fired. That's the big difference the VP9 / VP40 has over the P30 line.
An out of the box VP9 is much nicer than an out of the box Glock in terms of trigger and ergonomics.
The P2000 line is an older line where you don't have as great ergonomics and changeable grips etc.
By way of comparison, I have a Walther P99 AS gen 3, so yes, I "get" striker-fired. To me, it's like feeling an urge to always have bright, shiny, and new in the driveway. I get there fine in slightly more vintage mode, especially when it seems that incremental development is nothing more than shaking a few more shekels out of the faithful.
By way of comparison, I have a Walther P99 AS gen 3, so yes, I "get" striker-fired. To me, it's like feeling an urge to always have bright, shiny, and new in the driveway. I get there fine in slightly more vintage mode, especially when it seems that incremental development is nothing more than shaking a few more shekels out of the faithful.
The p30 is the 30 year old hot chick that you met when she was 22 and blew out her McDonalds dispenser.
The VP9 will now be officially known as the Mormon chick of pistols.
Is the P-30 a 30yr old SMILF?
All firearms are mechanical devices, and are just as justified in breaking down, or having problems as any other mechanical device. Some devices work better than others, and firearms are no different in that regard.
I have owned Glocks, 1911's, revolvers, and many, MANY other types of pistols, and like everyone else I have my preferences.
I don't understand why so many people find it difficult to accept that other people may not have the same likes and dislikes they do. With the pistols I don't like, I simply admit that it is a personal preference, and feel no need to otherwise justify my preferences. Nor do I attempt to require other people to justify what they like or dislike. For example, I don't really like most of the Sig line of P series pistols. The sig pistols work as well as I would expect, are accurate and durable enough, I just prefer other pistols. So I spend my money on other things that I prefer, while admitting there is nothing wrong with the Sig pistols, I just don't prefer them.
Everyone gets to pick what they want, and after that it is mostly like listening to a ford VS chevy argument.
Glock fanboys are the vegans of the firearms world.
How do you know someone owns a Glock?
Just wait for a second, they'll tell you, and just like a vegan, they'll try to convert you to a limp wristed nancy boy
Is not.Your mother is a limp-wrist Nancy boy.!
You sir, are absolutely no fun.
You'll never miss fast enough to win a gun fight no matter the gun, it's chambering or round count. Plus a 22 in the eye is better than a 50 BMG flying by.