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I tried an FN 5.7.
It was ok but I was put off by the fact that the best ammo is not sold to the public.
Why is it stupid?"A pistol is the least lethal weapon I own. So. Don’t kid yourself. If you need lethality don’t draw your pistol. Regardless of the brand."
That comment is simply stupid.
I tried an FN 5.7.
It was ok but I was put off by the fact that the best ammo is not sold to the public.
Why is it stupid?
Why is it stupid?
Think about the comment...There are different tools for different purposes. Which is why there is a whole world of tools made.
I know many guys who own Barretts, Serbus, etc. These are rifles of incredible power and potential, but to call them the "most lethal" will have to depend on situation. The M82 would certainly be one of the most lethal weapons in a sniper fight. But not so in an urban, peacetime setting. You can't carry a Rem. 700 or even an AR carbine discreetly and still be able to bring it into battery fast enough to deal with an emergency situation, such as an active shooter in a shopping center. But a Glock or 1911 in my jacket can. In the hands of a moderately skilled pistol shooter a well aimed 9mm or .45 is just as effective as a rifle round out to 50 yards. And A LOT of things happen within 50 yards on a day to day basis. A rifle will have far more penetrating power than a pistol, but if an active shooter with body armor were to go on a rampage and I am able to draw my CCW and anchor him with a headshot, the result is all the same. And as a regular citizen in peacetime, I would not normally be carrying a rifle around.
In the mid-later years of the Old West, a lot of towns and settlements passed ordinances barring the carrying of rifles, shotguns and even pistols in their limits. So what did a lot of folks, both law abiding citizens and outlaws do? They simply swapped out the barrels of their Colts and other six-shooters with cut down snubnose barrels, turning them into VERY effective and VERY deadly belly-guns and vest pistols. Many a cheating card player or aggressive drunkard met their demise from being shot at close range inside a saloon with one of those. Many names and descriptions engraved on tombstones all over the West are still here as a testament to just how deadly pistols were. It wouldn't have mattered if those people were killed with Winchesters, sawed off shotguns, or a .44 Colt Army. Dead is dead. Once yer' gone, ya ain't coming back.
If you want lethality.............Train with the weapons you are most comfortable with AND MOST PRACTICAL for use in the situations you normally inhabit. There is no such thing as any gun being "more lethal" than another. Guns do 3 things. They function. They fail. And they rust. A man's skill at handling them is what makes them deadly. Texas pistol fighter John Wesley Hardin has killed a lot of heavily armed opponents in his day, some of them carrying rifles. But Old Wes' was simply more skilled, more cunning, and more brutal than they were.
Suspension? Beam? Truss? Covered?.40sw......obviously.....
I wrote this up for a buddy who was caught up in typical gun forum debates over Glock and how Glock does not "innovate" and ... well, you know how it goes. FWIW...
Re. Glock and innovation...
Here's the deal...Glock has provided the world with the most combat-tested, combat-proven firearm ever invented, selling hundreds of millions of them. They are easy to use. Easy to maintain. Easy to shoot. A trained monkey can field strip them. An average IQ human can detail strip them. There are tens of thousands of after-market parts and gizmos for them. You can customize them to your heart's content.
But on the other hand, they perform reliably and consistently right out of the box, even with their stock crappy sights. They get the job done. They are intended to be and always have been combat-accurate handguns useful for CQB situations of every description. They are legendarily resistant to abusive environmental conditions and abusive human operators.
Glock does not need to "innovate" ... they just need to keep their quality control strong and keep churning out these marvelous polymer-framed wonder guns.
The Glock inspires endless online debates among mostly keyboard warriors who have never gone in harms way, never experienced the terror and thrill of the two-way range and have never heard, let alone fired, a single bullet fired in anger in their lives, and hopefully never will. Let these types debate, whine, cry and otherwise *****/moan/debate about Glock not "innovating" all they want. The rest of us will just smile and nod and say, "That's nice, honey."
Glocks work. Period. End of story.
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See if someone is still making glocks in 107 years
See if someone is still making glocks in 107 years
Never owned a Glock (shot a few) and after this thread I doubt I ever will. Not that they suck, (not a fan of their trigger) but the way you guys go on and on (fucking 5 pages really) you could make a dick go limp on a porn set.
Never owned a Glock (shot a few) and after this thread I doubt I ever will. Not that they suck, (not a fan of their trigger) but the way you guys go on and on (fucking 5 pages really) you could make a dick go limp on a porn set.
See if someone is still making glocks in 107 years
You prove my point. Most the grownups left this conversation about page 3. Glock didn't give me a bad feeling about Glock. You did.Here is a piece of candy for you, kiddo. Now run along and let the grown ups talk. As for your personal issues, they made meds for it.
You prove my point. Most the grownups left this conversation about page 3. Glock didn't give me a bad feeling about Glock. You did.
I'm no mathematician but 2019 - 1982 does NOT equal 50.Same deal with Glocks. It is a design that has been proven in combat and competition for the last 50 years. The King in a few posts above stated that 10 to 20 million of them has been sold already. That is a testament to success right there.
It is more about the design than the brand. If by some highly unusual means that Glock goes bankrupt, another purchaser will readily take up the slack and continue production. If it is good, there will be a market for it.
I'm no mathematician but 2019 - 1982 does NOT equal 50.
IRT the design, again, Glock did not invent the operating system, the tilting barrel design was invented by JMB and has been in use since the early 1900's.
What Glock did was use different material to make the damn thing. He was not the first to make a polymer handgun, he was, however, the most successful. Got lots of free advertising from the press at the time too, but that's ok.
There is nothing revolutionary about a Glock, there never was. It is evolutionary, as any modern firearm is. Whether it is in design, materials or caliber.
The equivalent of ugly girl porn? At least post some Zev stuff so its worth a second look.Thread needs more porn:
RELOADERS STRIKE AGAIN ... LOL
RELOADERS STRIKE AGAIN ... LOL