good non electric scale?

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ive seen a couple in a new cabelas magazine for around $30. says they dont need recalibration and are magnetically dampened

are they worth a darn or should i just buy an electronic one.

FWIW i generally like non electric stuff cause theres less brains to get screwed up.
 
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RCBS 1010 scale tuned by Scott Parker will show 1 kernal of powder deflection on the needle, and in 30 years should do the same if taken care of, people seem to confuse old school technology as being obsolete because there are electronic options to replace things with.
 
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RCBS 5-0-5 will serve you well.
It has the capability to discern a one kernel variance of charge weight.
Mounting your scale at eye level so you are looking straight on at the pointer is a good tip.
A full set of check weights is also a good investment.
 
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As a retired electronics precision instument repair and calibration tech, I fully agree with your concerns about the reliability of ANYTHING electronic, perhaps especially so for powder scales. High grade and expensive digitals are accurate but even they require constant maintinance to keep them that way. I have absolutely no confidence in the cheap instruments being sold to us for tasks as critical as powder measurements. Any beam scale made for reloading will do you well, and for MUCH longer life than any priced digital.

That said, the only beam I know of in that price range is Lee's "Perfect"; it's good, but it's sure not perfect. It's very accurate and very reliable ... and also a PITA to use!

Get any beam from RCBS, Dillon, Redding or Lyman and you will be fine.
 
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I don't trust electronic scales, the couple I've tried had too much variation charge to charge, and were too susceptible to ANY amount of vibration present. I was also skeptical about temperature/humidity variations. One just took too damned long to reach a weight reading, and I was never really sure it was right. Seemed I had the balance beam scale right there too and was constantly double checking the electronic scale. PITA, is the nicest thing I can say about them, IMHE, FWIW. One thing that personally agravated me about electronic vs. balance beam is the mental fatigue with the electronic. Watching/counting the numbers go up on the electronic scale seemed more fatiguing than simply watching a pointer rise. Might sound silly but do a couple hundred, or more, in a session and see what I mean.

I will admit it was wicked easy to get rid of them when I sold 'em.....

A good balance beam is either right, or it's wrong, and it's easy as shit to see if it's right or it's wrong. The trick I use is to make up a check weight to check the "zero" as I go. The check weight is made out of whatever, usually a metal washer, and weighs exactly the same as my powder charge. I stamp them with a letter/number set to mark for chambering, powder weight, and powder type, so I don't acidentally use the wrong one. I start with a washer that's a tad heavier than my powder charge then remove metal by drilling little holes in it, and eventually dremeling off tiny bits of mass so it comes out the exact same weight.

'Tis a simple matter of placing it on the pan every 10 rounds or so to make sure the beam is still "zero'd". This is a ton easier than moving the scale weights back to zero everytime to check it. The check weight is a constant that will never change. To check "zero" it is just as good regarding accuracy as actually setting the scale back to zero, just faster....and the less you fiddle with your scale while you use it the better too.

I used a 505 for decades, and now have a 10-10....both very good scales. One tip per magnetic dampened scales. When not is use take it apart and store the beam seperated from the magnet. It will read truer the next time you use it.
 
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I now use an RCBS 5-0-5 scale. I was unsing a Hornady Auto Charge, but I got so sick of it overthrowing charges(tried the straw trick and reprogramming it), and it wasn't consistent enough for me. The beam scale is never dependant on temp, warm-up time, and other electronics (lights, cell phones, you name it) interfering with it. I find that I now load quicker using my beam scale then I did with the Autocharge.
 
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I had the RCBS 5-0-5 scale and had no problems with it. Last year I bought a RCBS 10-10 scale off ebay, for $60. I have wanted to get one for quite a while, but really couldn't justify it because the 5-0-5 worked so well. They both are very accurate and reliable. I can throw weighed charges about as fast as an electronic powder dispenser /scale combo, probably faster. I set the powder measure to throw just underneath the desired weight and drop the charge right into the weighing pan. I have a powder trickler set up to dump the last bit into the pan as it sits on the scale. Once the scale comes up to the desired charge I dump the powder into my case through a funnel and then put charged case into my press and seat the bullet. I can load about 2 rounds per minute this way. If I were just weighing and charging I could do a few more per minute. The RCBS claims their Chargemaster Combo will throw 2 charges a minute, so I can beat that and my scale doesn't shift.
 
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I find that the redding balance beam scale is more accurate and faster than my Pact digital scale. (You need to use a heavy grade oil to dampen the swing). It will indicate 1 grain differences. Haven't used the digital scale in years.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Driftwood</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> I set the powder measure to throw just underneath the desired weight and drop the charge right into the weighing pan. I have a powder trickler set up to dump the last bit into the pan as it sits on the scale. </div></div>

Same here.
I've got the RCBS 5-0-5 scale and trickler sitting on a shelf at eye level. The Redding dump measure easily gets within .2 grain every time.

I've got a digital scale too. It'll last a long time.......sitting on the shelf in the box.
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"I've got the RCBS 5-0-5 scale and trickler sitting on a shelf at eye level."

That, and close proximity between the measure, scale, trickler and the press itself, is the major key to reloading "speed", not a digital dumpster.


"The Redding dump measure easily gets within .2 grain every time."

Proper operation of any measure allows us to set it very slightly below the desired charge so manual trickling doesn't take long.

I very seldom turn my digital scale on. Only use it for weighing cases and that's gotten pretty rare.