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Took the wifey out to eat for our 10th anniversary last night.
Sitting at the intersection waiting for the light to turn green, I see a gal come thru the intersection as her light turns red then smash!!!
A motorcyclist on a crotch rocket runs the red light and slams into her and is DOA.
I see his helmet roll by the front of my pickup. I look up to the cyclist and he's got a melon sized pile of brains laying next to him.
The news reports that the helmet was strapped on the back of the bike.
Quite a shocker... one of the reasons I sold my Harley last year.
A guy has to feel a little sorry for him and his family, but speed and steel don't combine.
Slow down and watch for those motorcycles!


 
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I could see how that could ruin dinner. I saw a crotch rocket wreck here in Oklahoma on the highway, I stopped wanting a motorcycle at that moment.
 
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A guy I went to school with was killed on one about three weeks ago. A car pulled out in front of him and he hit it.

There's a pretty bad blind spot where the car was so the wreck really wasn't a result of carelessness on either part.
 
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My best buddy in school in 1969 wanted me to buy a motorcycle with him in Europe and travel the continent for th summer..
He bought a Triumph in Eng. and put 13000 miles on it until in Denmark he hit a truck at 110 mph and messed up his arm..lucky

I could have had a BMW then for 1500$, but I went to summer school instead..my arm is fine.

Middle age is when your dreams turn to regrets...
 
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i have seen a lot of friends fall, and several die on bikes....but i just cant see me not owning a crotch rocket. i have two now, and am in the market for a third.

you cant let a little death scare you away from riding.

bench
 
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I've had 5 or 6 bikes, all dirt bikes. I won't ride on on the street. Too dangerous. And I don't care what anyone says, loud pipes don't save lives, they just piss people off....
 
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Years ago, while coming back from vacation, a crotch rocket wizzed by us doing about 100. 10 minutes later, traffic came to a dead stop. About 100Y before the accident was a shoe in the road, and the riders foot was still in it. He scraped along the road for a really long time .... it was like a hunk of meat versus a belt sander.

 
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Yup.....Know what that looks like and agree it is very sobering as I've helped clean up a few of those kind of accidents. Sometimes its not the bikes fault but they still take the brunt of the injuries. Just not any protection when you hit.

Been years since I rode but I can understand those who do, just got to be careful and be a very defensive driver.
 
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I always wanted a motorcycle. My dad changed my mind very quickly, he ran the x-ray dept. A couple of x-rays and a few stories of working the ER took care of that.
 
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If you want to really entertain a medical examiner, haul ass on your crotch rocket.

Best wreck I ever worked was a kid who's parents had the bright idea of letting a 17 year old ride one. Kid was (estimated) speeding at 120+. Came over a rise in the highway, in time to see traffic stopped, and went headlong into the back of a Chevy Silverado. Jackoff ended up in 3 main pieces.

Frankly, when I see people on those things driving like that, I expect fatality, and dont ever feel bad when it happens.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: dlc356</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> There's a pretty bad blind spot where the car was so the wreck really wasn't a result of carelessness on either part.</div></div>

The best and most usefull words my older brother ever told me were: "when you turn the key from OFF to RUN, you just became invisible!"

If you ride long enough, you're gonna see a shit stain, from one end or the other. Red lights mean keep it in gear, so you can move out from the idiot that thinks the stop line is two feet past your rear tire, green lights mean look both ways, and proceed with caution, 'cause some a&&hole is gonna blow the red light because she has to get to the day care before 1700 or they'll charge her for another hour.

I have a driver's side mirror, headlight, and marker light to my credit on that one, in that order. I lost my temper on that one, and spent a few hours talking to the DLPD explaining how my boot removing parts of a van made me more safe.

The best part came when the 2nd grader in the back seat begged and begged to sit on the motorcycle, and I got to help the little tyke into the saddle, while mommy glared at me from the driver's seat, with the window up, because, according to the reporting officer, "The subject was highly irritated, and may have been prone to violence, and the child seemed to calm him."

Tip em, you witnessed a horrible thing. As a rider, even if you don't anymore, tell you friends and coworkers to keep an eye out for us. With the gas fiasco, there is alot more scooters on the road. In my neck of the woods, the cagers seem to be looking out a little more. Unfortunatly, we still have morons that think that bikes can do the impossible when it comes to traffic. It's up to the riders to educate the non-riders.

Rant off- As a rider, it's a subject close to my heart. If anyone wants to know more about how to get involved with rider and driver education, please PM me, I'll be happy to do the leg work to find the contacts in your area.

Crunch
Lunacy MC
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: shaggyback</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If you want to really entertain a medical examiner, haul ass on your crotch rocket.

Best wreck I ever worked was a kid who's parents had the bright idea of letting a 17 year old ride one. Kid was (estimated) speeding at 120+. Came over a rise in the highway, in time to see traffic stopped, and went headlong into the back of a Chevy Silverado. Jackoff ended up in 3 main pieces.

Frankly, when I see people on those things driving like that, I expect fatality, and dont ever feel bad when it happens. </div></div>

I do.
I feel bad because that 17 year old boy could have been taught better and survived to be an ass kicking trooper for the forces of good. It really is a shame that parents have not a clue how to raise their children. And so many of them end up a greasy spot on the road or a drooling vegetable somewhere. Or worse, they end up killing me or one of mine with their stupid ass rice rockets and other bullshit.
 
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I sold my last BMW R90 with 94,000 miles, the new one (K1200GT) has 15,000 so far. IMO the key to survival is a healthy dose paranoia.
You are invisible and all the cars are trying to knock you off the bike, they can't see you so they just take random swipes trying to connect.
Keep that in mind and you might make it to work and back....
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: shaggyback</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If you want to really entertain a medical examiner, haul ass on your crotch rocket.

Best wreck I ever worked was a kid who's parents had the bright idea of letting a 17 year old ride one. Kid was (estimated) speeding at 120+. Came over a rise in the highway, in time to see traffic stopped, and went headlong into the back of a Chevy Silverado. Jackoff ended up in 3 main pieces.

Frankly, when I see people on those things driving like that, I expect fatality, and dont ever feel bad when it happens. </div></div>

What was the last thing that went through his mind?
 
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I was coming back west across I-80 from Vintage Motorcycle Days back in '03 going thru Iowa. There was road work up ahead, 2 lanes down to 1, and they started alerting us with signs at 10 miles away. Another big flashing sign every mile. Soon after the first sign a pickup truck passed me with a dresser HD two up tailgating him very closely. When we got to the sign that said 2 lanes into 1 2 miles ahead, the traffic came to a halt. Yup, when the traffic backup started for the lane closure the cars hit the brakes and the Harley dresser plowed into the back of whomever was in front of him.

Being stupid, aggressive, and/or in a hurry on a street bike does not get my sympathy.

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Check you PM NineH.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: NineHotel</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I was coming back west across I-80 from Vintage Motorcycle Days back in '03 going thru Iowa. There was road work up ahead, 2 lanes down to 1, and they started alerting us with signs at 10 miles away. Another big flashing sign every mile. Soon after the first sign a pickup truck passed me with a dresser HD two up tailgating him very closely. When we got to the sign that said 2 lanes into 1 2 miles ahead, the traffic came to a halt. Yup, when the traffic backup started for the lane closure the cars hit the brakes and the Harley dresser plowed into the back of whomever was in front of him.

Being stupid, aggressive, and/or in a hurry on a street bike does not get my sympathy.

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They say the average life expectancy of someonone on a crotch rocket is 30 days driving it off the lot.

I cant stand when I am sitting in traffic at a stop and those guys come FLYING between cars, i feel no sympathy, you cant buck the dealer forever.
 
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Wasn't it Gordon Liddy who said: Speed doesn't kill; speed differential kills. For those of you who want to pursue this gruesome topic: www.ridetodie.com

The only real question is not 'what might happen?', but whether you are prepared to do it or not. I ride daily. I race. The risk is there, but then, risk is everwhere. And risk, by our society, is overrated anyway.

Show me a cyclist without protective gear and I'll show you someone who has never come off a motorcycle, at speed or otherwise. Wear a helmet, wear full protective gear, including gloves, and if you don't hit something solid you will likely walk away from most crashes most times.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: VSP968</div><div class="ubbcode-body">http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/10/30/marine.motorcycles/ </div></div>There has been a lot of talk in the news lately about Post-Traumatic stress. PTSD is relatively common now. Less common is what I and others call 'Fear deficit'. Fear deficit is when things that scare most people don't really scare you anymore. I have seen it in those who have exceeded their normal limits, and survived. Fear deficit can also get you killed.

And, I hope, I don't have to remind gun owners that it's not the fault of the motorcycle.
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I don't get why people say "Start seeing motorcycles." More often than not it's the dip head on the bike that is behaving recklessly. Dipping between lanes to get ahead between two cars going 65, two jerk-offs sharing one lane each at the edge of the lane damned near next to each other, rocketing beyond the speed limit, expect to get greased doing that on a bike.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SuperTuck</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I don't get why people say "Start seeing motorcycles." More often than not it's the dip head on the bike that is behaving recklessly. Dipping between lanes to get ahead between two cars going 65, two jerk-offs sharing one lane each at the edge of the lane damned near next to each other, rocketing beyond the speed limit, expect to get greased doing that on a bike.</div></div>

Though I agree with most of these sentiments, there is one thing which I differ on.

I wear on my vest "Loud Pipes Save Lives".

I do this, because of the fact that the vast majority of drivers out there, IF they shouldercheck, and/or IF they look, and they don't see an 18 wheeler right there, then they automatically think that there's nothing there, and start to move over.

This happened more times than I can count/remember. I watch, when passing slow vehicles which are in the right (hammer) lane, and I don't know how many times I've had to grab clutch/twist throttle, just simply cause the hammerhead is too busy bopping to the music, talking on a cell-phone, texting, chatting with a(many) passenger(s) or whatever.

Years ago, I'd taken to running the loudest exhaust I can handle, simply cause my life and safety means one heck of a lot more, than others 'comfort and oblivion'. I generally travel at 2 to 5 Km/h faster than most traffic, just so's I can keep my eye more focused on what's in front/beside me, then what's behind. As soon as I started using louder exhaust, all the sudden people started actually noticing me more. And no, I'm not talking about straight-pipes, or anything like that. I prefer highway cruising, (almost) dread city driving, and at a constant speed, the volume/reverberations are music.

But crank on the throttle, and the birds in the ditches start flying away. True-dual Thunderheader's really are sweet, in my opinion. Other than protective gear, they are the biggest advent to safety on my scoot. High-beams, passing-lights, and all the extra christmas-tree-ornaments and foo-fa-ra that others put on doestn't do a lick of good, if the cage-driver ain't watching.

The deep reverberations emanating through their car, and overtaking whatever senses they have left sure enhance their awareness though. "OH MY GOD, WHAT BIKER GANG IS SNEAKING UP ON ME" and the tennis-match-rubbernecking means that they are actually looking for me/us.

And that is what matters.

Don't worry, I/we will be gone forward into your horizon soon enough, that the 'discomfort' for the sound will leave you right quick.

And yes, our exhaust reverberation is music compared to the obnoxious 'wailing' of emergency vehicles sirens coming to clean up the mess (us) that you (the oblivious hammerheads) caused.

Not directed at anyone specific here, so don't get your knickers in a knot please. Just START SEEING MOTORCYCLES.

---and if you want to know why I feel so strongly about this, come see my scars, watch me walk/hobble, and I'll tell you how I really feel.
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Well, if that is how it goes down, people changing lanes without really looking, I suppose I can get on board with that. If someone changes a lane and bumps a car, not much harm other than an insurance claim, but it would be death on a bike.

I just wish the guys on the bikes didn't act like their shit don't stink and then plaster their stickers around as if they don't sneak up on everyone by going 15 mph faster than all others after dipping between vehicles.
 
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SuperTuck, I hear you, and thank you too.

I forgot to add, that up here where I am, there is a whole different world between Cruiser riding style, and Sportbike riding style.

Myself, I am a Cruiser.

Judge for yourselves. And with regards to this topic, having a conversation with 'open-minded and truthful individuals' is so much different than those who "own the road, pay their taxes, and know better for all".

The former is much preferred, respected, and enjoyable. I thank you on that count also.

(standard disclaimer being: I'm not saying all sportbike riders are the same, though I am saying that there's a lot more similarity between Cruiser riding style, than the "majority" of Sportbike riding styles.--There are some out there whom I respect. Not many, but some. The 'two-wheeled' thing causing a bit of a paintbrush effect)
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: crumpmd</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I do.
I feel bad because that 17 year old boy could have been taught better and survived to be an ass kicking trooper for the forces of good.</div></div>

Lets face it, odds are against it. He had a better chance of being just another dipshit, based on what I saw of him.


<span style="font-size: 17pt"> <span style="font-family: 'Arial Black'">If you drive like hell, expect to get there... </span></span>
 
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The dept. I work for has 900 employees and we have lost six due to motorcycle accidents in five years.In the end I guess it doesent matter who's fault it was. ALL you bikers be careful!
 
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ATGATT!!! All The Gear All The Time!!!


I ride a rocket, I ride fast but only when no one else is even close to me. If I go down at speed I want it to be my ass not that soccer mom and her kids as well. In traffic i get ahead of every one, and not doing wheelies, or lane splitting or any of that. I pass at 5-9 over and when I am in front I slow down. I love my wife too much to kill myself on a bike.

Me being new to the bike world about a year ago i noticed the cruiser guys turning a cold shoulder to the rocket guys. We do not ride the same thing but we have a common ground and rocket guys need and ass chewing give it to them and the same to the Harley guys. Ever see a 20yo on a Harley? They do the same shit a 20yo does on a rocket. Its not the bike its the mindset.

Keep it on 2 and look out for eachother.
 
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Meh doesn't really bother me. He knew the risk, should've been wearing a helmet(helmet or no helmet law), should've followed basic traffic laws.. nuff said?

This is coming from a motorcycle rider who likes to exceed 100 mph(i said likes to, not always does) and ride a cloverleaf 3 times before continuing on his way. Yes I have been in a a severe motorcycle accident
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: hatidua</div><div class="ubbcode-body">There's been a couple of bike-vs.-car incidents locally in the past six months. The car won all the matches.</div></div>

Cars typically do!
 
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I agree with Sean's first post (esp the travelling a touch faster than flow of traffic).

I currently run a Thunderheader and will probably be going back to drag or lake pipe open exhaust, as the Thunderheader puts most of the noise behind the bike.

I really don't give a rat's ass who thinks open pipes are obnoxious or give riders a bad name.
I'm here to have that argument because more than once a twist of the wick with open pipes has kept the idiot in the lane next to me that's texting/eating/playing with laptop/ just plain oblivious in their lane when they started to change into mine w/out looking.
 
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