Seriously? You are quite fucking IGNORANT if you think any grain farmers are making much if any money at this time. Lazy? Most small and medium sized farmers work a full time job in addition to farming. Probably putting in more hours than 95% of everyone else.
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Seriously? You are quite fucking IGNORANT if you think any grain farmers are making much if any money at this time. Lazy? Most small and medium sized farmers work a full time job in addition to farming. Probably putting in more hours than 95% of everyone else.
That's all very commendable, but this isn't you deciding to be a criminal. This is about the government deciding you stand in the way of control and eliminating you, either by force or by your obedience.
The government didn't bestow upon you the privilege to be armed, it was a right you were born with. If you're ready to give up that right to live comfortably, be prepared to give up the rest of them shortly...
Thats all very good advice, if a person is only concerned with the small picture and the short term goal is to simply continue existing.
Lock & Load. Do you have kids? If you do, the longer you put off the fight, the deeper you dig the hole for them. If ya don’t than you don’t have many excuses. Do you know Jesus? Weather you do or don’t you must be smart enough to know you can’t take your house or guns with you when you die.
So I go get myself killed in "the good fight" so ya'll and yer Jesus friends can call me a good Jack cause I died rather than play the game and live to fight another day?
*You* guys die for your rhetoric and bullshit. I'm gonna live to fight another day. And if that means running to another state? Jesus will will judge me. You don't. I'm not picking a fight with the State or the State Police...I'm involved with organizations that are fighting this law but if they fail (and they will) I'm living to fight another day. I'm not going to jail - I'm not starting a gun fight with the State Police. I'm not hiding my guns in the ground and I'm not gonna stand up and die so *you* fucks can gloat.
See ya in Hell. No. I do not know Jesus and he ain't gonna save me. I'm renting my home and moving to another State. Send yer kids to Hell fighting for rhetoric and yer bullshit ideology.
VooDoo
*You* guys die for your rhetoric and bullshit. I'm gonna live to fight another day. And if that means running to another state? Jesus will will judge me. You don't. I'm not picking a fight with the State or the State Police...I'm involved with organizations that are fighting this law but if they fail (and they will) I'm living to fight another day. I'm not going to jail - I'm not starting a gun fight with the State Police. I'm not hiding my guns in the ground and I'm not gonna stand up and die so *you* fucks can gloat.
See ya in Hell. No. I do not know Jesus and he ain't gonna save me. I'm renting my home and moving to another State. Send yer kids to Hell fighting for rhetoric and yer bullshit ideology.
VooDoo
The rule followers on the right are far more dangerous than the Marxist drumming the drum. Those marxists would be a joke without our own door kickers kicking their own doors.
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
Knee living like being a damnorat is a choice, for some. Who was the founder that said those willing to give up freedom for security deserve neither,...
Lol should have put a sarcasm tag in there
Have you ever been told you were greedy and lazy for using glyphosate ?
Then told you were a liar for telling that person that organic causes massive soil run off and other issues?
Or that without subsidies you would be broke?
Grain farmers? What farmer is making any money. Dairy is probably the worst but I don't think any farmer is making much money right now. At least you got the trump welfare payment on the soys
Gotcha. I’m a little gunny with all this gun control bullshit. Puts me in a fighting mood like I’m cornered... Which I am...
I would say pick your battles and your right don't fight them at your house.
I'm surprised no but job vigilantes have taken the fight to the commies. Shows how law abiding the right side is
Right there with you. I would have left this commie hole years ago if not for a business here.
Federal, other .gov "workers" and minority's have destroyed this state with their votes.
Someone who is asking on the internet what should I do, is probably best served by my advice to this specific asking party.
The people who are of the do what must be done type, already had their plan a long time ago without asking around.
Not everybody is cut out to be the ones that kick things off, most will not fight till the killing is already in full swing, that doesn't mean they can't be useful in their own way at the right time.
So far nobody has come to the aid of those or avenged those that were killed by the police in their own homes either because the police were trigger happy storm trooper wannabes, or were carrying out orders to steal guns from someone violently because some "anonymous family member" with an axe to grind said lies about them. Has anyone of the "freedom loving" type made sure those bastards paid blood for blood? Has anyone taken the fight in blood to those passing the laws or sending the storm troopers out? Nope....... And I don't expect it to happen any time soon. It will take way more for people to get off their rear ends.
For that matter have any one of the people that were convicted of various crimes because they disobeyed some stupid new law gotten huge widespread help from the "freedom loving" community....
So while the whole die in a shootout at your doorstep makes for a nice sound bite.... It's not actually a practical option for most folks.
I’ve already fought for this country and am prepared to fight again. Grow some balls and don’t come asking men what to do when you really want a little boy answer. I’m not running from here. I was smart enough to pick a better place to provide for my family. So the Constitution is my rhetoric and bullshit ideology? You don’t have the right to call yourself American you terd. Go join the Democrats
Thats all very fair. I'm not arguing with you in any way.
Note that I haven't once said I was ready to die guns blazing. Just that packing up and moving to avoid new laws is very shortsighted. New laws are coming to a state near you, wherever you are.
There is a lot about that whole situation long ago that is a bit "odd"... Like all the "guilty" parties just didn't happen to be there that day.
everyone has to draw there line in the sand. If you don’t want to be bent over and screwed any more than draw your line. People in the state were these killings by cop are taking place is were the tribunals and millisha’s should be starting. I’m not bening anymore and I definitely am not gonna spread my cheeks for em when they say so. The longer people wait the deeper we find ourself. If you were gonna move it shoulda been when they pulled that foid crap or first sniff of mag ban. Y’all go ahead and sit in the pot of boiling water though. I jumped out a while ago.
Give up accounts and passwords PLUS all that other shit? You gotta be shitting me. What'll they want next, because if you do this, there will be a next. Fuck 'em. Write MOLON LABE on the form and send that in. At some point enough is enough. I'm moving too, can't get away fast enough now, but I ain't rich and if they wanna implement that shit they passed here ASAP they're just gonna have to do it without me.
It's gonna take mass disobedience. It's just a piece of paper if nobody registers and as I understand it, cops like to go home at night so it's unlikely that shit will be enforced anyway. It's working in Canada, NJ and some other state where they passed some do it or else law and everyone but this one guy called bullshit.
What is it they don't get about the 2A? Or is it that they believe we are that complacent and willing to cow tow to whatever they come up with next?
Regardless, get ready to put up or shut up because whoever replaces Trump is gonna try and go for the whole enchilada. Some reason I just feel it. Again, wish I could be optimistic but I ain't seeing it.
It's gonna take mass disobedience. It's just a piece of paper if nobody registers and as I understand it, cops like to go home at night so it's unlikely that shit will be enforced anyway. It's working in Canada, NJ and some other state where they passed some do it or else law and everyone but this one guy called bullshit.
What is it they don't get about the 2A? Or is it that they believe we are that complacent and willing to cow tow to whatever they come up with next?
Regardless, get ready to put up or shut up because whoever replaces Trump is gonna try and go for the whole enchilada. Some reason I just feel it. Again, wish I could be optimistic but I ain't seeing it.
Interesting to see all the shit holes passing all this are those who seem to have the most taxes, corruption, largest rat support/base as well as sanctuary for illegals. Appears to be a pattern to this hillbilly,...
I appreciate everyone's perspective and advice even if I do not agree with it. I came looking for opinions and perspective and I have that. Thank you.
I apologize for the extra "drama" and unseemly bullshit. I asked for it and I get it.
VooDoo
I apologize for the extra "drama" and unseemly bullshit. I asked for it and I get it.
VooDoo
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Do your Duty
I, (NAME), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed ...Oct 18, 2018
I, (NAME), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed ...Oct 18, 2018
You are not required to an it's your duty not to obey any order that is deemed unlawful, no matter who it's from. The words upon/in The COTUS has the final say over any an all want to be dictators/tyrants no matter their rags, or tackle box shit on their chest.
I know you guys will blow up about this, I live in illinois, I work on a row crop farm and I will figure out a way to keep stuff. The only way to beat this is to stay and take it to court, battling it out in a gun fight is very short lived. Shoot an officer or soldier on your doorstep tells them they will win and they need a bigger gun than yours. Anybody that thinks if I fight at my door step against officers enforcing a law that is bullshit, that officer isnt going to side with you. Talk to your sheriff and they may tell you I'm not enforcing a state law, cool what happens when he loses his seat as sheriff? Yeah bury the rifle or hide it for a couple years and play the long game. Win it in court, theres no way these laws will stay around if they are fought everywhere. Old court cases are quoted with firearm cases all the time.
Unless the whole state goes to war you standing up to a sheriff with your rifle isnt going to get you out of it. You kill him then the state is after you and possibly the FBI. I think a case similar started in mahomet illinois after someone who shot at an officer and they said when they found him they tried to take him alive and a fire fight ensued with a dozen or more officers a swat team and him by himself, pretty sure he didnt live to tell his side of the story.
Dont call me and idiot and tell me your state is better just because you live there. Illinois government is fucked more than most other states yes, I grew up here and this is where I choose to stay, if everyone moves away and doesnt fight it then in the long run were all going to live in Kentucky and Arkansas. Until they turn. All I can do is hope when it goes to court if it comes to that that enough people stand behind who ever is fighting but I know how it goes. It's not happening to me so no one helps out.
Unless the whole state goes to war you standing up to a sheriff with your rifle isnt going to get you out of it. You kill him then the state is after you and possibly the FBI. I think a case similar started in mahomet illinois after someone who shot at an officer and they said when they found him they tried to take him alive and a fire fight ensued with a dozen or more officers a swat team and him by himself, pretty sure he didnt live to tell his side of the story.
Dont call me and idiot and tell me your state is better just because you live there. Illinois government is fucked more than most other states yes, I grew up here and this is where I choose to stay, if everyone moves away and doesnt fight it then in the long run were all going to live in Kentucky and Arkansas. Until they turn. All I can do is hope when it goes to court if it comes to that that enough people stand behind who ever is fighting but I know how it goes. It's not happening to me so no one helps out.
I posted here ; 'A Call to Action', and the response was dismal to say the least!
Our numbers that attended GAVE HOPE to the left!
Now less than a year later the left is pushing socialism in every state in the Union.
They want the Constitution repealed, make no mistake about it!
Then we get this 'Woe Is Me' sad deal story from Illinois.
They're taking my guns!
If we want the Constitution to be up held then we had better go after the left before they get anymore power! And that means HUGE demonstrations! Otherwise we're just cannon fodder for the government and the left!
Before I go up against a totalitarian government with arms; you better bet my sweet ass is going demonstrate at EVERY RALLY I can!
And if I'm the only one there, then so be it.
Is there honor in dying for a cause that so few believe in? What would I gain?
What would you gain?
If we can't rally together on the steps of our Capitals we sure as hell are NOT going to rally with ARMS!
We are right where the left wants us!
DIVIDED!
A Constitutionalist and a member of the
USFA,
DAN HUBER
AMERICANS for AMERICA RALLY
Thread starterGONE BAD Start dateApr 4, 2018
There should be violent protests. The commie law makers should be scared of the crowd outside those work place
In Maryland protesters were illegally arrested. They should have rioted and made sure no one was arrested
This peaceful protest obey all laws bull shit has gotten us nowhere.
In case you missed it
And don't think for q second it couldn't happen here. They are already openly talking about wanting to kill white people. The commies would surely put you in a camp. The militant blacks and some other minority's would be right there with them. Especially if they got to steal your "ill gotten " wealth.
We definitely need a call to action. At a very minimum we need to be protesting. We need to be openly armed with “black rifles”. We need people that will not let anyone make arrests of peaceful protesters. We need to be outside every police station that has participated in the red flag gun confiscation, every station involved in a unarmed shooting, any station with a assault weapons ban, any station with a mag ban. Not only can we give no more. We Must Take Back. If we the people keep moving eventually we will all be in the same state left with single shot small caliber rifles. We can hang together or we will all hang separately. The founding fathers deserve better than to see their blood sacrifice handed over mag by mag instead of fought for bullet by bullet. I didn’t fight overseas to come home and find my country treated like a occupied nation
Not all doom and gloom:
http://www.wsiltv.com/story/39913745/states-attorney-takes-stand-against-gun-law
http://www.wsiltv.com/story/39913745/states-attorney-takes-stand-against-gun-law
States Attorney is taking a stand against this bs:
http://www.wsiltv.com/story/3991374...SOXfWtwSxpYNrbr3A4Q3uuGa9jJ3REJyQd7WnQK0AQXVg
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http://www.wsiltv.com/story/3991374...SOXfWtwSxpYNrbr3A4Q3uuGa9jJ3REJyQd7WnQK0AQXVg
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that republican is excited that your freedoms are being removed by dems, it gives him more power,,, you gotta get rid of all Dems and repubs...
That’s all fine and dandy except this proposed law needs to be killed in its tracks. Anyone proposing a law like that is a enemy of the constitution. That’s how they make it illegal for you to use your land. Pass a law but wait 10 years to start enforcing
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