HB957 (Made In Texas Suppressors) just passed in the TX Senate on 2nd reading

[Snuby642]

Regardless of what you heard from some neck-beard that huffed too much Hoppes, Texas has no recognized right to dissolve the union between it and the rest of the US. The question of whether or not the “United“ in United States” is permanent was resolved in 1865.

I strongly feel you are completely wrong on your statement.

And as far as the texas suppressors there would be no reason 7-11 couldn't sell them.

Imho

 

[Snuby642]

Nuclear weapons would change things

So would a bunch of east coast folks having no gas, jet fule or disel.

We can cut off the out of state flow and everyone can just suck it.
We have shipping ports, international airports and an international border that they allready are too big a pussies to maintain control of.

Secedeing from the union may become more enticing every day the dems run shit in the ground .

Start rounding up democrat scum and deporting them.

And then maybe colonize Mexico to straiten it's ass out while we're at it.

 

[6.5SH]

So would a bunch of east coast folks having no gas, jet fule or disel.

We can cut off the out of state flow and everyone can just suck it.
We have shipping ports, international airports and an international border that they allready are too big a pussies to maintain control of.

Secedeing from the union may become more enticing every day the dems run shit in the ground .

Start rounding up democrat scum and deporting them.

And then maybe colonize Mexico to straiten it's ass out while we're at it.

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[davere]

Governor will never sign it.........

Ok, Nostradamus...

 

[TexPatriot]

So would a bunch of east coast folks having no gas, jet fule or disel.

We can cut off the out of state flow and everyone can just suck it.
We have shipping ports, international airports and an international border that they allready are too big a pussies to maintain control of.

Secedeing from the union may become more enticing every day the dems run shit in the ground .

Start rounding up democrat scum and deporting them.

Texas married down when it joined the Union. It has the ability, size and natural resources to be an independent, self sufficient republic once again. But, for the same reason we joined the Union which was protection from Mexico and other countries from attacking us, we still need the ability to defend ourselves. The oil fields alone would make Texas a high value target.

We would need nuclear capabilities, a military and air force just like Israel from threats from China and every NWO shithole country from trying invade us.

Don't look to the United States for protection or even an ally the way the present criminal communist regime in Washington has turned on the U.S. citizens. They would be more inclined to ally with China and allow CCP to set up military bases just like Canada has.

 

[rlsmith1]

so it says, per GOA, that the law "Gives a path to secure a declaratory judgment on the constitutionality of this law before someone manufactures “Made in Texas” suppressors"

Who gets to issue that? a Federal court? Texas Supreme Court?

Let me be the guy who doesnt want to be a hypocrite here, but dont we get pissed off at shitty democrats who pass laws that are fully unconstitutional? and shouldnt we expect our law makers to try and hold to the same standard? yes, its something that we really want, but if its unconstitutional, then what does it really accomplish? except to pinch a few good people in the process?


we need to move past the warm fuzzy of moral victories and start getting some actual fucking victories.

Charger, in my mind, lot of the laws being passing (that I oppose at least) don't give freedom to people, they restrict it. And it's not just democrats passing these laws. The constitution is all about freedom. 2nd Amend says "shall not be infringed" and I'm not sure where the confusion is here. Laws that align with the OG law of the land (freedom giving constitution) are all good. I'm excited for Oregon to legalize all forms of drugs (I'm won't ever fly out there to smoke crack tho). Everyone wants "natural selection" until they are the ones being selected out.


I think @Choid is right, this will likely go the same way things went in 2009. I don't know how the recently appointed judges will alter the outcome this time around, if at all. Texas may raise more of a stink than Montana did especially given the current climate in America. I also think other states (Tennessee and a couple others) are a lot closer to jumping on the bandwagon of freedom than ever before. I'm hopeful; free men don't ask permission though.

Texas is proud, congrats on being the 21st state to pass constitutional carry. Took almost half the Union to do it before you jumped on board . I'm sure one could say Texas is just formalizing what has been the attitude for a long time.

Finally, Texas, please learn from the broader United States and stop this Austin stuff before it spins out of control. Austin isn't just weird, it is liberal. Just standing by and saying "You make your decisions while I make mine" isn't going to cut it. That's how federal and state legislatures are turned blue. Look at Colorado and Virginia if you need state specific examples. If you think secession is just going to happen, it never will if Austin (and Dallas) are left alone; look how much drama there was to pass constitutional carry and some voting bills.

By the way, God bless Texas.

 

[Choid]

Charger, in my mind, lot of the laws being passing (that I oppose at least) don't give freedom to people, they restrict it. And it's not just democrats passing these laws. The constitution is all about freedom. 2nd Amend says "shall not be infringed" and I'm not sure where the confusion is here. Laws that align with the OG law of the land (freedom giving constitution) are all good. I'm excited for Oregon to legalize all forms of drugs (I'm won't ever fly out there to smoke crack tho). Everyone wants "natural selection" until they are the ones being selected out.


I think @Choid is right, this will likely go the same way things went in 2009. I don't know how the recently appointed judges will alter the outcome this time around, if at all. Texas may raise more of a stink than Montana did especially given the current climate in America. I also think other states (Tennessee and a couple others) are a lot closer to jumping on the bandwagon of freedom than ever before. I'm hopeful; free men don't ask permission though.

Texas is proud, congrats on being the 21st state to pass constitutional carry. Took almost half the Union to do it before you jumped on board . I'm sure one could say Texas is just formalizing what has been the attitude for a long time.

Finally, Texas, please learn from the broader United States and stop this Austin stuff before it spins out of control. Austin isn't just weird, it is liberal. Just standing by and saying "You make your decisions while I make mine" isn't going to cut it. That's how federal and state legislatures are turned blue. Look at Colorado and Virginia if you need state specific examples. If you think secession is just going to happen, it never will if Austin (and Dallas) are left alone; look how much drama there was to pass constitutional carry and some voting bills.

By the way, God bless Texas.

Hopefully the positive outcome of the Covid debacle is states becoming more comfortable in exercising their 10th amendment rights. There is no chance of any state being allowed to secede, though.

 

[rlsmith1]

Hopefully the positive outcome of the Covid debacle is states becoming more comfortable in exercising their 10th amendment rights. There is no chance of any state being allowed to secede, though.

Agreed. No one has ever been allowed to secede, but that didn't stop some states from trying last time. If the federal government had flexed their power on anything but slavery, it would have been very different. That's why the whole 2a thing is interesting because lots are unifying around something that isn't inherently wrong.

 

[NoDopes]

. I'm excited for Oregon to legalize all forms of drugs

That works if the tax payer doesn't have to pay for medical bills from ODs and treatments. No way that happens.
This would be an interesting case study in 5 years.

 

[rlsmith1]

Vote with your $, other states will let you move there if you want to.

 

[Choid]

I agree with you that tax payers shouldn’t foot the bill for the Ods and treatments of crack heads. I would argue that making drugs legal would not cause more drug use and Ods.

Simple question. If heroin was legal today, would you shoot up? If the answer is no then I rest my case.

I think what has been seen is that once cartels have smuggling lines, they just substitute products when pot becomes legal. So they dedicate the same old lines to fentanyl and people. Not a great trade off.

I don't really care if people use drugs. I do know that every place where they are legalized gets worse from every point of view.

 

[Snuby642]

Having constitutional carry in Texas is not that big a deal for me.

I've had a chl / ltc since the start.

A snubnose and boots were pretty popular with some folks in the old days.

 

[Snuby642]

Legalizing drugs, brilliant.

Good way to kill a bunch of kids.
If they were all liberals not a problem.

 

[NoDopes]

If heroin was legal today, would you shoot up?

that's a pretty extreme example.. but no, I wouldn't. There are lots of "entry" drugs however that plenty of people would start down the road on. How do you think the nationwide Opiod epidemic started with doctors giving out pain meds like candy?

 

[rlsmith1]

I think what has been seen is that once cartels have smuggling lines, they just substitute products when pot becomes legal. So they dedicate the same old lines to fentanyl and people. Not a great trade off.

I don't really care if people use drugs. I do know that every place where they are legalized gets worse from every point of view.

Does that mean if all drugs were legalized, they would resort to smuggling weapons? Sounds like a decent trade off to me...

 

[rlsmith1]

that's a pretty extreme example.. but no, I wouldn't. There are lots of "entry" drugs however that plenty of people would start down the road on. How do you think the nationwide Opiod epidemic started with doctors giving out pain meds like candy?

Pretty sure it started with the meth and cocaine taken by soldiers in WWII... It was a small dose for soldiers but after the war it was developed into a more concentrated drug and people couldn't handle it especially when there wasn't a war to distract them from the high / low

 

[Charger442]

Legalizing drugs, brilliant.

Good way to kill a bunch of kids.
If they were all liberals not a problem.

Make Parenting Great Again

 

[Choid]

Does that mean if all drugs were legalized, they would resort to smuggling weapons? Sounds like a decent trade off to me...

More likely people and hard prescription drugs. If it is weapons, it isn't going to the good guys.

I am all for legalization, but not without a serious crackdown on smuggling routes. I also think drugs are bad.

 

[rlsmith1]

Yeah no room for people trafficking here... Those guys deserve a special kind of punishment

 

[TexPatriot]

Drugs are easily available to anyone that wants them now. You can drive into almost any small town and drive out with a million dollars worth of drugs. All the children in schools can get what they want and as much as they want anytime they want. The vast majority just won't. I am all for legalizing marijuana even though I don't use it or alcohol, but not the rest although I seriously doubt anyone that isn't already using myth and heroin would pick it up anyhow. I wouldn't support legalization of all drugs.

Every small town and rural area has a drug sub culture that involves meth, weed, oxy and now heroin has come back strong. If there's a music industry like here in central Texas than you're going to see a whole drug fueled, underground soap opera.
And you do not want to turn your back on some of these methbillies. They are more crazy and unpredictable than any hood rat.

 

[Mr. Z]

So would a bunch of east coast folks having no gas, jet fule or disel.

We can cut off the out of state flow and everyone can just suck it.
We have shipping ports, international airports and an international border that they allready are too big a pussies to maintain control of.

Secedeing from the union may become more enticing every day the dems run shit in the ground .

Start rounding up democrat scum and deporting them.

And then maybe colonize Mexico to straiten it's ass out while we're at it.

 

[shlouf]

I asked, and my lgs said that they will not be allowing over the counter sales, they are a federally liscenced shop or some shit and cant do it. The option is there but i will personally be staying above board on my purchases.

Yeah, there isn't a 07 Class 2 SOT anywhere in the state that is dumb enough to start selling OTC any time soon.

Now some small town good ol' boy with a lathe, mill, and pile of Al/SS in his workshop? That's a different story.

 

[Texasflyer]

Yeah, there isn't a 07 Class 2 SOT anywhere in the state that is dumb enough to start selling OTC any time soon.

Now some small town good ol' boy with a lathe, mill, and pile of Al/SS in his workshop? That's a different story.

Yeah, lgs says no go that is a definate red flag on a stop sign under a redlight.

 

[Texasflyer]

Still, its a win somehow. We should keep the momentum up and push the line farther back.

 

[Choid]

Still, its a win somehow. We should keep the momentum up and push the line farther back.

If this law is, as some in here suggest, a way to ease some burden off those using suppressor kits, then just shutting up about it and going on your business is probably the best course of action. And don't buy those kits online, or with a credit card. Any commercial endeavor related to this is going to end up very badly, as is any non commercial endeavor that ends up with one of these cans in fed hands. Or the hands of a zealous cop anywhere.

 

[Charger442]

Yeah, lgs says no go that is a definate red flag on a stop sign under a redlight.

LGS knows whats up.....

 

[Snuby642]

I don't understand where you damn liberals sit in a scum bucket state smoking your federally prohibited weed and tell Texans they can't roll thier own suppressors.

Guess you addled your brain with the dope.

Because it is exactly the same.
Should hold legal precedent.

Toke away shitheads.

 

[SanPatHogger]

I don't understand where you damn liberals sit in a scum bucket state smoking your federally prohibited weed and tell Texans they can't roll thier own suppressors.

Guess you addled your brain with the dope.

Because it is exactly the same.
Should hold legal precedent.

Toke away shitheads.

Toke away shitheads.

I will be using that one at work.
Thanks

 

[eastexsteve]

HB2622 should pass, as well, making it a class A misdemeanor for TX law enforcement officers to enforce federal gun laws, or assist federal agents in the enforcement of federal gun laws that aren't also Texas law.

So, ATF wants in, they're gonna have to do it all themselves.

I like this one. In my part of the woods, the fed couldn't scare up enough agents to use a Ouija board.

 

[Snuby642]

Good that should cut down on people bothering you at the range chomping at the bit to ad a federal law bust scalp on thier lodge pole.


Pests.

 

[Scott037]

Legalize suppressors nation wide.

 

[XP1K]

Legalize suppressors nation wide.

And sbr's.

 

[TexPatriot]

Good that should cut down on people bothering you at the range chomping at the bit to ad a federal law bust scalp on thier lodge pole.


Pests.

I was drinking early and thought that read "...and bust their scalp on the lodge pole." Like the pole holding up the canopy.