Advanced Marksmanship Help me get better at PRS - Video attached - December Update

[z7.jled]

Bottom line: I am having fun and learning, but I am not happy with my technique on barricades and tank traps. I talked to folks at the match and did some reading and the consistent advice was some blend of minimizing my input. I tried free recoil, or something very close on the "steps" barricade on the first stage, and missed (first shot was high, but the shot was called perfectly) I think some of the inconsistency I saw was recoil management (308 win, 178 ELD's at 2660)

Problem: when I try to lean into the rifle and stack my torso behind the rifle, driving the rifle into the obstacle, I am not terribly steady and holy heartbeat batman, my pulse will make the crosshairs jump .5mils or so, very difficult to break a clean shot when a little natural wobble is combined with the heartbeat. I tried lightening the pressure and I have significant issues with recoil management and had shots impacting high for no reason.
solution: you tell me

Problem: tank traps kick my butt during a stage, but I am super steady during practice. both matches I have seen tank traps have wrecked me, but then I shoot a few shots after the match from the tank traps (all of them) and I am rock steady and can't seem to miss.
Solution: build a better position from the start (also, what do you do?)

Problem: consistent grip I tried a very soft/gentle grip on the rifle to help with a stable sight picture (see heartbeat comments above), as the video shows, I was unable to maintain a good grip through every single shot - Solution, grip the rifle and pull it straight to the rear next time (any other advice?)

Problem: to dial or hold. tank trap stage, 2 targets, 2 shots each from each of three traps. I planned to dial, but chose to hold last minute. my first shot was no hold and obviously hit the dirt. the second shot, I didn't hold for the full drop. it was a moment of complete dumb@ssery on my part.
Solution: shoot the stage as planned, and don't make changes when you grab your rifle (and plan better, that too) what do you do?

Bags/gear. if you saw my other videos in the PRS thread you probably saw me fighting some bags. this time, I tried to streamline some gear, only breaking out the huge homemade pillow when I knew it would help. the addition of the tactical udder (and practicing with it) helped, I didn't use the sling this match for any real purpose, but I also didn't fight the sling this match, so +1 for not using it.

if you got this far, thank you. please comment regarding what you see in the video and help me (and hopefully others) get better.




side note: the magnetospeed t-1000 target hit indicators are awesome (the flashing lights on some of the far targets)

 

[308pirate]

Hooking up the sling to your belt with a carabiner and tensioning it does wonders for muzzle jump and recoil control. It also pulls the rifle down into the bag somewhat minimizing wobble.

Pulse: gotta work on cardio fitness, plus some of it is match nerves/buck fever.

 

[broke_again]

First off what brake do you have on your rifle?

Second I don’t think free recoil is going to work so well with your rifle. Guys with 6mm do it because they don’t have shit for recoil

On the tank trap dial for one target and hold the other. I like to dial for the long target and hold under on the close one. Closer targets will give you more leeway for not holding perfect

On the barrels you aren’t going to have much help as there is no grip. On the upright barrel I either go with my Atlas back 45 degrees (not an option for u) or a game changer.

There is a reason 308 has lost a lot of popularity. It fights you so much in the recoil and wind.

 

[z7.jled]

Thanks for the feedback,

@308pirate I tried clipping in with the sling last match, it helped, but moving to 4 positions and maintaining good tension was tough and time consuming,

Those barrels were just odd, I got zero indication of where I hit so I just aimed low on a guess and got a hit, on the tall barrel I was nice and steady, but I couldn’t stack my body behind it

I know th 308 is not popular, one guy in my squad was shooting a 6br and basically free recoiled everything, everyone else was 6.5 cm or 6cm
I know I have to drive the gun “better” to compete, which is kinda why I am doing it. I will be moving and very busy next year, probably won’t get to shoot any matches, so I am trying to learn now while I can

@broke_again it is the cathedral port break from LRI

 

[308pirate]

The right sling (one with a lightning quick length adjuster on the front half) is essential to pulling it off. I modified mine to work.

I hear you on the 308. That's how I roll because that's what I have. I'm doing this for fun so no fucks are given about what others are shooting.

 

[broke_again]

Go with a really aggressive four port brake to tame the recoil some. Look at APA and PVA.

 

[Greene]

For a good quick adjust sling I run Tab PRS... How long have you been shooting on this level? I personally am not a free recoiler. It works great for some but I can't seem to make it work for me.. I actually don't push into the barricade but rather use the prop as a rest and actually pull the rifle back to me.

As for sling use if possible I like to run a sling. But I don't attach it to my belt etc. But rather around my self like regular patrol carry, allows you to adjust quick and change positions. Also can use your back to apply more or less tension etc. Also I use the front attachment as a grip to counter balance the rifle on the barricade.

Here is a video from the Kahles match at K&M.

 

[Precision Underground]

Looks to me like you are breaking your cheek weld right when the shot breaks. That means you are anticipating the sound and the recoil and it’s likely is a problem across the board no matter the set up. Some set ups are just going to be less forgiving.

IMO its a focus problem more than a position problem. Relax and focus on hitting the target. Deliberately pull the trigger and ride all of the way through recoil with zero reaction. Don’t focus on holding on target and squeezing the trigger. That makes for shakeyness and sets you up for being surprised by the shot and breaking your cheek weld.

All my opinion of course take it as you will!

 

[Precision Underground]

For a good quick adjust sling I run Tab PRS... How long have you been shooting on this level? I personally am not a free recoiler. It works great for some but I can't seem to make it work for me.. I actually don't push into the barricade but rather use the prop as a rest and actually pull the rifle back to me.

As for sling use if possible I like to run a sling. But I don't attach it to my belt etc. But rather around my self like regular patrol carry, allows you to adjust quick and change positions. Also can use your back to apply more or less tension etc. Also I use the front attachment as a grip to counter balance the rifle on the barricade.

Here is a video from the Kahles match at K&M.

I agree don’t press into obstacle but pull into yourself.

OP watch how solid his cheek stays on the rifle and he rides all of the way through without budging. Then watch yours, you break off slightly when the shot breaks. Again it’s not so much that action that is hurting you. Just ramming your cheek in won’t fix it. It’s mental, meaning find where your focus needs to be so that you stay on the rifle without trying to stay on the rifle. Put your focus out not in.

 

[Greene]

I agree with jpgolffl on focusing more on making the shot. You won't get 100% stable, least I can't. There is usually some wobble to account for . I actually practice on shot timing to help allow for this. That away when your not as stable as you'd hope, you still have that ability to time the shot.

 

[z7.jled]

@Greene, nice demo videos, I just started shooting the new local prs match in June, so very new, I started 3gun in December of last year, so still very new.

I need to buy a new Sling and want the tab prs

I had not considered a new muzzle break, but I might

Thanks to all on the barricade advice, I learned in a cqb course the value of driving the rifle into a barricade when possible, and have been trying to replicate, I will try to practice just pulling into the shoulder vs stacking my weight behind it

@jpgolffl great observeration, I will go back and look at the raw video and see if I can spot it, if you are correct (which I assume you are) then that can explain a whole lot

Thanks again to all, I’m still listening as long as you all are giving free critiques

 

[Greene]

Hope something in there that helped you. For me it took a little while to find the combination of things that worked for me. One example of everyone does something different. I noticed that you hold down on top scope. I personally like to stabilize farther out on the rifle toward the end of the front of the stock. For me I get more wobble with hand on top as it’s still a center pivot with down force, vs a more of a counter balance approach. If that makes sense.

Short of it. Watch and learn from all those you can. Test the different things and find what works for you and your particular style.

 

[Sheldon N]

Lots of good advice above. Watching your video I think the biggest thing is the mental game. Calm yourself, relax, control the adrenaline. Let the shooting be just like it is in practice. No one is watching you, no one else is going to pay attention to your score. The gun is going to recoil, let it happen and don’t flinch. Pull the trigger slowly and smoothly straight back, don’t slap the trigger and don’t anticipate. Keep a clear head and execute the shooting plan.

At least that’s what I tell myself.

 

[broke_again]

when I switched from 308 to Creedmoor I noticed that I shot better because the recoil was milder. I wasn’t trying to muscle the gun as much to control that recoil. Then it got even better going to a 6.

Learning on a 308 is great, it will teach you the basics.

But at some point you will want to move on

 

[morganlamprecht]

Greene has pretty much said everything i would have said to the letter

lots of guys free recoil with hand on scope...i hate it...i learned to shoot positional with a 308 in wind and free recoil wasnt an option to spot impacts

same as he said, i try to set the rifle up, steady the fore end with my offhand, and then feel like im behind it...not loading into it, not forcing it...just behind it, lightly pulled into me so it has a path to come straight back as possible

when you say youre rock solid practicing, but wobble on the clock, it sounds like youre tensing up and trying to force stability...flexed muscles shake, stay loose and relaxed when the match pressure is on...easier said than done, i know lol

 

[Tactical Taz]

I am still learning myself and by no means an expert. The only thing I would comment on is the barrels. On the barrels laying down, you could get more contact points. The first one that was long ways, you still had room to push your bipod forward. This would allow you to get your knees up against the barrel also and steady the roll a bit better. On the sideways barrel, I use the same concept getting a knee or foot into the barrel. Unless specifically noted by the RO, you can go off the side of the barrel with a leg to get further forward into the barrel and get a knee up there. I do this currently because I have a knee injury that prevents me from sitting on my left knee. I have found it very stable on the sideways barrel to leave bipod legs down and roll the barrel back until I am on target and the mag is touching and/or get a small bag under the mag and the barrel is into a knee. This is likely more difficult with your bipod so it could be done with your saracen.

I will say it has taken me about a year or so of shooting matches on the clock to learn to relax and not tense up on these sorts of stages. There is a big difference in forcing stability versus naturally having a relaxed stable. Forcing stability I can feel myself almost hold my breath and anticipating the shot versus deciding when I want to break it. My techniques have not drastically changed, but practice at many club matches on the clock helped me to settle down.

 

[Precision Underground]

@Greene, nice demo videos, I just started shooting the new local prs match in June, so very new, I started 3gun in December of last year, so still very new.

I need to buy a new Sling and want the tab prs

I had not considered a new muzzle break, but I might

Thanks to all on the barricade advice, I learned in a cqb course the value of driving the rifle into a barricade when possible, and have been trying to replicate, I will try to practice just pulling into the shoulder vs stacking my weight behind it

@jpgolffl great observeration, I will go back and look at the raw video and see if I can spot it, if you are correct (which I assume you are) then that can explain a whole lot

Thanks again to all, I’m still listening as long as you all are giving free critiques

You can really see it in the 1st and 3rd shots from the second(middle level) barricade on the video.

 

[z7.jled]

You can really see it in the 1st and 3rd shots from the second(middle level) barricade on the video.

I went back and watched it, spot on and great catch, thank you

I was unhappy with my follow through throughout the match I was experimenting with a little less “intense” engagement with the rifle at times (nearly free recoil, minimum hand and shoulder pressure etc) and I wasn’t focusing on all the FOM. My practice is going to focus on consistent pressure and control with the grip, cheek-weld and shoulder pocket pressure across positions.

Looking at the tape, I am going to move my cheek piece back some too

Thanks for everyone reading , watching and commenting, it’s helping me identify problems I had not previously diagnosed and has given me some ideas on ways to do things differently.

I am also going to practice moving my left hand more fwd and not on the scope. I tried it and it helped steady the sights in a few positions, but the recoil control and inconsistency was a negative point.

 

[Precision Underground]

I went back and watched it, spot on and great catch, thank you

I was unhappy with my follow through throughout the match I was experimenting with a little less “intense” engagement with the rifle at times (nearly free recoil, minimum hand and shoulder pressure etc) and I wasn’t focusing on all the FOM. My practice is going to focus on consistent pressure and control with the grip, cheek-weld and shoulder pocket pressure across positions.

Looking at the tape, I am going to move my cheek piece back some too

Thanks for everyone reading , watching and commenting, it’s helping me identify problems I had not previously diagnosed and has given me some ideas on ways to do things differently.

I am also going to practice moving my left hand more fwd and not on the scope. I tried it and it helped steady the sights in a few positions, but the recoil control and inconsistency was a negative point.

I don’t shoot prs but I was doing exactly what you are doing not long ago. Frank is spot on when he says to drive the rifle all of the way through recoil. Though I like to think of it as riding through recoil. Drive makes you want to “do” something when what you are actually doing is strapping in and going for a ride; with the trigger pull being the ride taking off. Don’t disengage from the ride as it’s taking off! And again, I wouldn’t get to internally focused on pressures and feels. Strap in and ride. Once you start riding all of the way through you will feel what needs to change to keep the rifle on target.

The way I used to shoot was a lot of checkpoints and thoughts to get set up perfect and the process was leading up to the trigger pull. If you could graph my brain activity it would have been a steady rise while trying to get on target and a spike up to the trigger pull and then a drop after the trigger pull. Now it’s basically a flatline that does not change. The ride ain’t over until the bullet hits the target, and you have been on the ride so many times it’s boring. Though I’m sure it would take some practice to have the same mindset in PRS!

 

[z7.jled]

I like to think of it as riding through recoil. Drive makes you want to “do” something when what you are actually doing is strapping in and going for a ride; with the trigger pull being the ride taking off.

The ride ain’t over until the bullet hits the target, and you have been on the ride so many times it’s boring. Though I’m sure it would take some practice to have the same mindset in PRS!

good perspective. I am new to PRS but have been shooting my whole life. not sure if PRS requires any new mindset other than getting out of your own head and focusing on what is important. the idea of "competition" makes your heart do weird things and your brain forget things. I need to focus, as others have mentioned, on fundamentals and getting into a relaxed position (like i do in practice) versus getting into a position "quickly." a good position that takes 20 seconds to build is better than a bad position that took 10 seconds to build but can't hit from

 

[308pirate]

good perspective. I am new to PRS but have been shooting my whole life. not sure if PRS requires any new mindset other than getting out of your own head and focusing on what is important. the idea of "competition" makes your heart do weird things and your brain forget things.

Seen this over and over in other shooting sports I've competed in. As you're finding out, there is a TON of difference between casual shooting and competitive shooting (even at the club level)

Someone above said it took him a year to get over the match nerves. That sounds about right. In reality, match nerves never go away. You just learn to ignore them/focus past them.

 

[Precision Underground]

Seen this over and over in other shooting sports I've competed in. As you're finding out, there is a TON of difference between casual shooting and competitive shooting (even at the club level)

Someone above said it took him a year to get over the match nerves. That sounds about right. In reality, match nerves never go away. You just learn to ignore them/focus past them.

Learn to channel it. When I was playing golf tournaments I would play really well early in the tournament when I had nerves. Once the tournament got going and the nerves calmed down I would start making stupid mistakes. When I had nerves I knew that I had to purposely clear my head and just play. Once the nerves went away I had no reminder to continue to to the same. Overthinking and trying too hard would come back and that ruins the bodys incredible ability to get tasks done without micromanaging each little moving part. Try throwing a ball to someone without thinking. Easy. Try to throw a ball to someone while thinking about how far to rear your arm back and when to let the ball go. You will throw it a mile over their head or directly into the dirt. Practice good fundamentals, then focus on the goal and let your subconscious get you there. Once you are at a match, focus on the goal no matter what your fundamentals are.

 

[308pirate]

When I was playing golf tournaments I would play really well early in the tournament when I had nerves. Once the tournament got going and the nerves calmed down I would start making stupid mistakes. When I had nerves I knew that I had to purposely clear my head and just play. Once the nerves went away I had no reminder to continue to to the same. Overthinking and trying too hard would come back and that ruins the bodys incredible ability to get tasks done without micromanaging each little moving part. .

Replace "golf" with "sporting clays" and I've experience the same exact thing.

 

[Precision Underground]

Replace "golf" with "sporting clays" and I've experience the same exact thing.

Yep. I haven't shot many clays but when I have it's the exact same thing. Really difficult thing to calculate or do while thinking but not that hard to do if you just allow your body to decide how to do it without thinking.

 

[Sheldon N]

One big difference between golf/sporting clays and precision rifle is that precision rifle is more about holding really still in a relaxed position vs executing a complex movement. Adrenaline works against you a lot more when you’re trying to hold still, so that makes the mental game that much more important in PRS.

 

[308pirate]

One big difference between golf/sporting clays and precision rifle is that precision rifle is more about holding really still in a relaxed position vs executing a complex movement. Adrenaline works against you a lot more when you’re trying to hold still, so that makes the mental game that much more important in PRS.

The mental game is critical in all shooting sports regardless of which one it is. How the mental game is addressed, or how the head trash is managed may be different from one sport to the other, but there is no shooting sport in which mental management is more important than others.

I may be a noob to PRS shooting, but certainly not a noob to other rifle sports (NRA HP master) or clay shooting (NSCA A class).

 

[SLG]

To tag on for a second, the difference among the best shooters in any given sport, is almost always their mental game. Some really talented shooters have basically no mental game, where others who are not quite as good, but have a great mental game, can come really close or surpass them given the right situation.

I have seen this over and over at national level competition. The children really show themselves...

 

[308pirate]

The children really show themselves...

Know exactly what you mean

 

[z7.jled]

Seen this over and over in other shooting sports I've competed in. As you're finding out, there is a TON of difference between casual shooting and competitive shooting (even at the club level)
Someone above said it took him a year to get over the match nerves. That sounds about right. In reality, match nerves never go away. You just learn to ignore them/focus past them.

agreed on the huge difference and the weird things your mind and body wants to do when you are on the clock. I have been shooting 3 gun monthly at least since december, so between PRS, IDPA, 3 gun/mulitigun I have shot about 15 comps since dec. All local and all small money, but there is a huge mental component. I find the pressure of PRS to be similar in intensity, different in nature, to having a deer walk under you stand while bowhunting. its easy to get lost in the moment and forget how to be. . . .it takes some control, both mentally and physically, to do it right. when I am successful in either arena, it is when I can focus only on what I am doing, I am fully in the moment without overthinking the moment, but also without overlooking important steps/information like building a position for a 300yd shot and forgetting that you planned to hold for that target and not dial (or drawing on the bow on that nice buck at 20yds, and not noticing the doe 15yds to your left that is watching you)

I think I have some good notes and thoughts moving into the September match. I hope to take a trip to Core next spring to try a bigger, more challenging and diverse match.

 

[308pirate]

The more you practice with a purpose, the more of your skills imprint in your subconscious and the easier everything seems to get.

The "zone", the "moment" is where we want to be.

 

[z7.jled]

Finally got back to the range - work sucks

Anyway, this was a PRS style match at Hollywood tactical gun club in south Florida,
It was an awesome match, about 85 rounds for the day, I ended up with 62 points and 2nd place, the winner had 63 hits,
the match was shorter in distance but with lots of movement and multiple targets for most stages. some of the obstacles were quite challenging with many shooters only getting a few hits or zero hits on some stages.
the inability to see a miss made everything more difficult for the day.

One lesson learned/ reiterated: eat, hydrate, and focus on the next task. I dropped 6 points on stage 8, (the gate) because I didn’t have a great plan, got frustrated when I struggled to break two shots well, then just ripped off the next three. I had not eaten or had enough water and my mind was not as sharp as it should have been.

I was able to get video of the shooter and target on most stages and put some notes in the video to help me debrief myself

This was a 9 stage match so it is a longer video, if you watch it and have any thoughts or comments, I am all ears for suggestions or tips

I know I need to improve my bag movement/placement: slow down and set the bag on a barricade well, then build a position, then shoot. 90 second par times on a 3 position, 3 target stage is tough

 

[Sheldon N]

Nice shooting man!

Don't have much to offer that you aren't already self critiquing. The fact that you pay attention to the details and reflect on what you want to do better puts you ahead of the curve already.

Little thoughts I had watching the video... Not sure the sling is necessary and might get in the way sometimes, most guys run without one. I think it's part of why you had trouble with bag placement on the PRS skills stage... to many things going on at once. I would remove scope caps, only time I run those is when it's raining hard. I also usually pull the bipod off for barricade stuff to make getting in/out of obstacles easier, but I know that it's a benefit for your 308 and absorbing some of the recoil. Generally speaking follow the "less is more" principle. I liked the use of tripod on the ratchet strap, not sure it was as ideal on that fence stage. Long term goal IMO is to work towards where you almost never use it unless the front rest is totally unstable (like the strap stage).

A few moments where the "mental prep" showed a bit of opportunity, not having the right bipod height set before the stage started, flipping up scope caps on the clock, not being mentally prepared to change your wind game plan on the fly when your initial number was the wrong number, could have instead gone in having a high/low range of possible holds for min/max winds.

Other stuff just comes with time, mainly position building. On the "wall" stage you would set position then adjust/shuffle/adjust to hit the correct position square to the rifle. Over time you can get to where you see a position and just know exactly where to drop your feet and body so you immediately hit NPA without having to reset. That will pay dividends on stages where time is tight. Bigger matches will have a lot of 5 position two target 90 second stages. Heck at the finale there was a 10 position 90 second stage.

Anyhow, just my 0.02 of how I'd tackle things. Everyone has to find what works for them so what works for me might not be best for you.

Keep shooting, you're tearing it up!

 

[308pirate]

That was a pretty sweet match. Rocking that 308 like a boss.

 

[z7.jled]

@Sheldon N
Thanks for the thoughts,

You nailed it with mental prep, on at least 4 stages I had to change something before I fired, bipod height, scope caps, chamber flag, or no mag (the pig stage)

Learning body position and NPA is one area I need work, trying to figure out what works at various heights and types of support

Also, learning how to best drive the rifle— strike a balance between reduced wobble and recoil management

I am trying to figure out it the sling is a net positive or negative, still not sure yet, and I am one of the few that brings one to the matches

 

[Twitchy]

@Sheldon N
Thanks for the thoughts,

You nailed it with mental prep, on at least 4 stages I had to change something before I fired, bipod height, scope caps, chamber flag, or no mag (the pig stage)

Learning body position and NPA is one area I need work, trying to figure out what works at various heights and types of support

Also, learning how to best drive the rifle— strike a balance between reduced wobble and recoil management

I am trying to figure out it the sling is a net positive or negative, still not sure yet, and I am one of the few that brings one to the matches

I shot that match also. I brought my sling, but ended up not using it. Generally the only time I would normally use it would be the offhand or unsupported positions. Otherwise I've found it to just get in the way.

I shot mediocre due to my inner voice telling me not to use the tools I brought (bags/tripod/etc). The Hog and Strap killed me. Oh and the prarie dogs sucked too. :/

What attachment are you using to film? I'm considering getting one for the spotting scope.

 

[z7.jled]

What attachment are you using to film? I'm considering getting one for the spotting scope.

I used a GoPro for the close stuff and a Sony handycam for the targets

The hog and the damn gate still frustrate me. I know how I should have fixed both stages, but nothing prohibits critical thinking more than the sound of that damned timer

 

[Mr Flannel]

Hi mate. I'm not any great shakes but have had fundamentals pounded into me over the years (not sure how much stuck). Apart from what you've already identified and had IDd for you by others more knowledgeable, I have seen a couple of times when you bounced off the trigger a bit. Certainly not a slap and only noticeable because your trigger press/control looked good the rest of the time. Having lost a few shots over the years due to hooking the trigger under pressure, I'm a bit OCD about this. Overall, great to watch and thanks for posting them. I learned something as well.

 

[DGD6MM]

Good shooting. I like your bag, what brand and make is it?

 

[z7.jled]

Good shooting. I like your bag, what brand and make is it?

The barricade bag is the tactical udder from @Fred @ Bison Tactical

 

[Tony1320]

For a good quick adjust sling I run Tab PRS... How long have you been shooting on this level? I personally am not a free recoiler. It works great for some but I can't seem to make it work for me.. I actually don't push into the barricade but rather use the prop as a rest and actually pull the rifle back to me.

As for sling use if possible I like to run a sling. But I don't attach it to my belt etc. But rather around my self like regular patrol carry, allows you to adjust quick and change positions. Also can use your back to apply more or less tension etc. Also I use the front attachment as a grip to counter balance the rifle on the barricade.

Here is a video from the Kahles match at K&M.

What caliber are you shooting in this video?

 

[Greene]

What caliber are you shooting in this video?

I run a 6 creedmoor pushing 115 dtac

 

[Shanerbanner10]

I didn't read the response above so sorry if i'm saying the same thing others have already said.
1) Get your shoulder in the gun.
2) follow through, focus on it.
3) After the first shot or two it looked like you would go from having your shoulder in the gun to almost a freeish recoil... don't do that.
4) Make that first one count. See it and then make your correction. Don't be so rushed by time that you feel like you have to run your bolt before the bullet leaves the barrel.
5) Your body positions when shooting positional stuff look pretty good to me. You're pretty square behind the rifle.
6) on the first stage in the video, get your rifle all the way to the right of the bag and use the wood as another point of contact. more points of contact the better and more stable you should be.
7) this is a personal preference... get rid of the big bag. You'll find it doesn't help all that much in the long run and does a good job wasting time. I practice with 1 bag and am to the point where its all I need in a match.
8) work on recoil management
9) get rid of anything thats not needed on a stage. Sling is a good example. If its not needed get it off your rifle.

 

[Voyager1]

The right sling (one with a lightning quick length adjuster on the front half) is essential to pulling it off. I modified mine to work.

I hear you on the 308. That's how I roll because that's what I have. I'm doing this for fun so no fucks are given about what others are shooting.

Good for you Sir! And oh what a lot of fun it is. With a 20 MOA rail and the right ammo u can get way The hell out there lol....