Hornady is my hero!!
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Now, we need some good Texas, Montana or Wyoming banks to step in and make it a very lucrative and successful business to cater to the 2A industry... and crowds.
There is nothing stopping a bank from saying they are the "Bank of the Constitution" and offering favorable terms to companies committed to abiding by it.
Virtue Signalling can work in multiple directions.
And poor New York... loses the tax revenue. Along with the revenue of the exodus of tax-crushed 'successful' people, fleeing to other states.
States rights... mean that a state has a right to fail miserably. And succeed brilliantly. Let the liberals starve. Eliminating the SALT deductions from federal taxes was brilliant. Now it forces local governments to clean up their acts or... face the consequences. All politics is local. Don't want a**hats in Washington? Don't elect them in Mayberry.
Cheers,
Sirhr
There is nothing stopping a bank from saying they are the "Bank of the Constitution" and offering favorable terms to companies committed to abiding by it.
Virtue Signalling can work in multiple directions.
And poor New York... loses the tax revenue. Along with the revenue of the exodus of tax-crushed 'successful' people, fleeing to other states.
States rights... mean that a state has a right to fail miserably. And succeed brilliantly. Let the liberals starve. Eliminating the SALT deductions from federal taxes was brilliant. Now it forces local governments to clean up their acts or... face the consequences. All politics is local. Don't want a**hats in Washington? Don't elect them in Mayberry.
Cheers,
Sirhr
Sir, have you looked at the banking structures lately ?
And seen just how intertwined and interconnected the bank chains are.....
And how many local banks are now owned by "Not in country" companies?
Just how many independent banks, or American owned and controlled banks can you name, that aren't tied to "the international banking cartel".
Really like to know that, so I can believe your scenario is possible.
Just asking... you seem to have Google foo, above average and find a lot of neat info we don't see otherwise, so... can u tell us about corporate banking structure currently to support a really good idea you posit'ed.
And seen just how intertwined and interconnected the bank chains are.....
And how many local banks are now owned by "Not in country" companies?
Just how many independent banks, or American owned and controlled banks can you name, that aren't tied to "the international banking cartel".
Really like to know that, so I can believe your scenario is possible.
Just asking... you seem to have Google foo, above average and find a lot of neat info we don't see otherwise, so... can u tell us about corporate banking structure currently to support a really good idea you posit'ed.
It's nice to see a company make a stand like that, and would be even better for other companies to follow suite, applaud to Hornady. Federal you paying attention?
Sir, i do have one problem with part of your scenario though, when you said the disaffected could move out of ny and those sodom places, and those that stayed could reap the benefit of their self created misery, you forget those disaffected already move outs are polluting where they moved to, example California moved to Denver, and other western states, and ny moved to Florida..
Some of us would rather they stayed in their self created shitholes. I don't want Detroit of Chicago shit moving in my neighborhood. Just sayin.
Curious how you see that, the disaffected moving out and polluting us as a solution.
I know, you said "the successful" could move out and join us..... but the other will follow, just sayin... rats follow the bread crumb trail...
Some of us would rather they stayed in their self created shitholes. I don't want Detroit of Chicago shit moving in my neighborhood. Just sayin.
Curious how you see that, the disaffected moving out and polluting us as a solution.
I know, you said "the successful" could move out and join us..... but the other will follow, just sayin... rats follow the bread crumb trail...
I liked R. Barrett's approach when he cut Ca. off at the knees. If this was to happen on a larger scale or the 2a folks all went to just a handful of banks,...
politically backed paper, backed up by a political controlled organization, what could go wrong with that?
Maybe we should all revert to a Tulip economy like long ago? Skill sets, beans/bullets an water hold more value to me than what plastic people, hold dear.
Rockstar move by Hornady! They were already at 80% of my bullet drawer and increasing. They are definately at 100% now. Heart felt thanks if any of you Hornady guys are on this site and reading!? Not realistic, but wouldn’t it be something if the whole firearms industry joined them??
The whole industry needs to take this approach....
We’ll see how gung-ho these anti gun politicians are when their police and personal security are armed with single shot muzzleloaders.
We’ll see how gung-ho these anti gun politicians are when their police and personal security are armed with single shot muzzleloaders.
Hornady is one of the few that can get away with this, probably the only big name in ammunition left that doesn't have corporate overlords tied to Wall Street. None of the Vista Outdoor or Remington Outdoor (formerly Freedom Group) companies would touch this sort of statement.
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The last administration "leaned" on the banks that they had by the short & curlies to make it hard for 2A companies to do business.
This could easily be fixed at the federal level as they lean all over the banking industry to suit political agendas. (like fining banks for not making enough risky home loans, or threatening to seize the bank if they don't do a merger they are ordered to etc.).
This could easily be fixed at the federal level as they lean all over the banking industry to suit political agendas. (like fining banks for not making enough risky home loans, or threatening to seize the bank if they don't do a merger they are ordered to etc.).
Hornady might also be feeling a little bold since the ink has dried on their FBI contract, I don't know that they would have openly taken that stance if they were still in negotiations.
It would have been interesting if Stag made good in their flirtations of moving to the Grand Island.
It would have been interesting if Stag made good in their flirtations of moving to the Grand Island.
If banks what to cut their own throats that is their choice. I know a few in the repair game that have quit doing anything (no matter the money involved) for libtards at all. It could all become a "Choice" economy rear quick.
It's behind a pay wall, have a source for the full article? I'd like to see exactly what banks are trying to do this.
Banks are working hard at their own irrelevancy. The time is getting ripe for a secure and privacy based third party system to come in and take shit over. It's a matter of time before they face an "Amazon" like online invasion into their business model the same way brick and mortar is becoming irrelevant.
We were given Hornady a couple years ago. Have had Corbon on and off for many, many years, and are currently issued Winchester.
And not one word about the Mag Floorplate.
Rocks n Concrete are hell on'm during speed reloads. 
When I saw the title of this thread,
I figured it was a result of their newer reloading specialist:
I figured it was a result of their newer reloading specialist:
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To a couple of thoughts questions....
First, I thought about the 'pollution' that east-coasters might bring to more... proper thinking... areas of the country when they move. But remember...Successful people are not all lefties. They tend to be more established... more system-oriented... more likely to fit into the areas they move to. Remember, I am here in Vermontistan... If you think I'd bring a bunch of lefty ideas to, say, Wyoming.... not a chance!
As for the scum-weasels, welfare sh**wads and parasites following? Well, don't make laws that attract them! Here in VT... a major effort was made by Howard Dean and Madeline Kunin... to attract welfare scum to VT... to vote for their leftist crap. Every welfare thing we could not afford... got jammed through by these commies... in order to create a socialist paradise. The takeover of the most conservative state in the Union (VT) was engineered. Not accidental.
As for the banks... some are sure to be more knowledgable than I on the subject. But if a bank is "independent" and not FDIC insured... and not operating across state lines... it does not have to be a 'Fed customer. There are lots of rules, too, that don't apply to Savings and Loan's and Thrifts, etc... that don't rely on the Fed for bailouts, currency floats, etc. If a bank manages its deposits and its loans... it can support whomever it wants. Moreover... who says that things can't change? If some banks wanted to be able to be 2A Banks... Fine. Get some laws passed that let them do it. Or sue the 'Fed and/or the regulators for violation of Constitution or Discrimination. Fed discrimination against Constitutionally-guaranteed activities is a Civil Rights Violation. The current DoJ would be more sympathetic than the last...
But I think there are options for financial institutions (maybe not call them banks?) should allow flexibilitty... in right-thinking states.
So, anyway..... where there is a will, there is a way!
Cheers,
Sirhr
First, I thought about the 'pollution' that east-coasters might bring to more... proper thinking... areas of the country when they move. But remember...Successful people are not all lefties. They tend to be more established... more system-oriented... more likely to fit into the areas they move to. Remember, I am here in Vermontistan... If you think I'd bring a bunch of lefty ideas to, say, Wyoming.... not a chance!
As for the scum-weasels, welfare sh**wads and parasites following? Well, don't make laws that attract them! Here in VT... a major effort was made by Howard Dean and Madeline Kunin... to attract welfare scum to VT... to vote for their leftist crap. Every welfare thing we could not afford... got jammed through by these commies... in order to create a socialist paradise. The takeover of the most conservative state in the Union (VT) was engineered. Not accidental.
As for the banks... some are sure to be more knowledgable than I on the subject. But if a bank is "independent" and not FDIC insured... and not operating across state lines... it does not have to be a 'Fed customer. There are lots of rules, too, that don't apply to Savings and Loan's and Thrifts, etc... that don't rely on the Fed for bailouts, currency floats, etc. If a bank manages its deposits and its loans... it can support whomever it wants. Moreover... who says that things can't change? If some banks wanted to be able to be 2A Banks... Fine. Get some laws passed that let them do it. Or sue the 'Fed and/or the regulators for violation of Constitution or Discrimination. Fed discrimination against Constitutionally-guaranteed activities is a Civil Rights Violation. The current DoJ would be more sympathetic than the last...
But I think there are options for financial institutions (maybe not call them banks?) should allow flexibilitty... in right-thinking states.
So, anyway..... where there is a will, there is a way!
Cheers,
Sirhr
I shot for Hornady many years ago and had the pleasure of touring the manufacturing facility and meeting folks like Steve H. This was certainly a class move by them. Will it impact NY, probably not, but it certainly sets a precedent.
All my reloading equipment and bullets are 85% Hornady anyway. Best blend of budget and quality IMO. Now it will likely increase. Just made a Midway order today for 330 dollars that was 80% Hornady products. Not a big purchase but I do that same thing at least x2 a month. By the way Midway has free shipping until midnight tonight even on most sale products.
One thing I wish we could all understand is WE have to join forces and work together. It's only when we stand together that we can make a difference. I've seen similar trings happen when 'traditional' bow hunters get angry at hunters using compound bows. WE are all on the same side. If more companies followed Hornady's example think of what could happen. Retailers, ammo manufacturers, accessory makers, hunters, and gun makers would make a hell of a team.
Rather than complaining on groups, like the NRA, help the fight. I'm not saying we have to agree with everything every group does, and yes, there are fringe groups that shouldn't have any voice, but we all are fighting for our collective guns.
Rather than complaining on groups, like the NRA, help the fight. I'm not saying we have to agree with everything every group does, and yes, there are fringe groups that shouldn't have any voice, but we all are fighting for our collective guns.
That has been one of the left's strategies... divide and conquer. Oh, traditional rifle owners... you aren't targets. Only those owners of evil "Black Guns" are bad. We aren't interested in your Remington Model 700...
Right up until the Remington Model 700 is an evil sniper rifle capable of killing innocent... whatever's at 1000 yards.
The left is united in its desire to destroy the Constitution. We should not be uniting on the basis of gun right or free speech rights or personal freedom rights or race rights or seach and seizure rights or law and order or a constitutional republic... we should be uniting on the one, single most important thing of all:
You are FOR the Constitution of the United States of America and the Bill of Rights and all that these documents stand for.
Or you are against it... and want to re-write it and regard it as an irrelevant and archaic relic of old , bad, white-privilege-slave-owning WASP people.
If you are in the former category... we should be 100 percent united on the basis of the DOCUMENT. Not divided on the minutia.
If you are in the latter category, you should be 'encouraged' to find a new place to hang your hat. Because you are the problem... and the enemy. My enemy, at least.
I'd usually apologize for the rant after such blatant statements. But instead, I will call it our rallying cry. No apologies... and no quarter for those who don't agree with it. You are FOR our founding documents. Or piss off.
Sirhr
Right up until the Remington Model 700 is an evil sniper rifle capable of killing innocent... whatever's at 1000 yards.
The left is united in its desire to destroy the Constitution. We should not be uniting on the basis of gun right or free speech rights or personal freedom rights or race rights or seach and seizure rights or law and order or a constitutional republic... we should be uniting on the one, single most important thing of all:
You are FOR the Constitution of the United States of America and the Bill of Rights and all that these documents stand for.
Or you are against it... and want to re-write it and regard it as an irrelevant and archaic relic of old , bad, white-privilege-slave-owning WASP people.
If you are in the former category... we should be 100 percent united on the basis of the DOCUMENT. Not divided on the minutia.
If you are in the latter category, you should be 'encouraged' to find a new place to hang your hat. Because you are the problem... and the enemy. My enemy, at least.
I'd usually apologize for the rant after such blatant statements. But instead, I will call it our rallying cry. No apologies... and no quarter for those who don't agree with it. You are FOR our founding documents. Or piss off.
Sirhr
You know I gotta say it, (and I'm surprised nobody else has yet) but congratulations on being given more than one round to carry. Sign of the times, eh? We've come a long way from Mayberry, haven't we?We were given Hornady a couple years ago. Have had Corbon on and off for many, many years, and are currently issued Winchester.
And not one word about the Mag Floorplate.
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Exactly how much longer though, do you have to wait before they give/allow you a holster and stop making you leave your pistol in your locker?
(ducking for incoming.....)
You know I gotta say it, (and I'm surprised nobody else has yet) but congratulations on being given more than one round to carry. Sign of the times, eh? We've come a long way from Mayberry, haven't we?
Exactly how much longer though, do you have to wait before they give/allow you a holster and stop making you leave your pistol in your locker?
(ducking for incoming.....)
Holster? We don't need no stinking Holster. We just tuck a mag into each sock along with a throw down and pack the damn thing around in hand. Way we see it round these parts is yuh can't lose at quick draw if'n ya ain't gotta draw in the first place. Can't member fer sure, but it's either a Policy or one of them Procedures.
Now stop fun'n me or you're get'n housed up with the Sex Offenders.
It would be awesome if EVERY gun and ammo manufacturer and reseller would refuse to do any business with the State of New York. No guns or ammo for you law enforcement. Make your own or don't use it since your residents per their elected officials don't want guns in New York. Why would you want your police to have them too?
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