How can I tell if I hit a steel target 800-1000yds away?

[Precision Underground]

Have you went back and watched the impacts in the video yet? I would have thought everyone had looked at it long enough to be laughing at you by now. If you can't see it, I think its just because you don't want to.

And just for a teachable moment.... @Gunfighter14e2 and @supercorndogs. Both of you said you could see the impacts in the video that was posted. You can go on youtube and frame by frame it and you will realize that you are not seeing what you think you are seeing.
Before the shot

First frame, cant see much here....

second, hmmmm no impact yet.

Third frame, nope.

Fourth frame and probably where the impact happens but I couldnt confirm it until the next frame by the dirt in the background. Is this where yall are seeing the hole happen in the paper?

And fifth frame after the shot breaks. There is now dirt flying in the air behind the target. Is this the spot yall are seeing the hole being made in the paper??

That was the first five frames after the shot broke to impact. It was another 15 frames before the scope settled enough to make anything out.
And yes, I picked the shot with the least movement on the scope. Moral of the story is you aren't always seeing what you think you are seeing.

 

[pitdog85]

Who fucking cares if you can or can't see a impact at 100m fuck off and post that shit somewhere else. The OP was asking a legit question which many people gave excellent feedback only to be fucked over by this 100m bullshit. I personally want to hear what methods people use to spot impacts at 700+ when there is heavy mirage like in the example I gave that I had yesterday I'm sure others would benefit from it as well??

 

[Shifty6BR]

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[Precision Underground]

Who fucking cares if you can or can't see a impact at 100m fuck off and post that shit somewhere else. The OP was asking a legit question which many people gave excellent feedback only to be fucked over by this 100m bullshit. I personally want to hear what methods people use to spot impacts at 700+ when there is heavy mirage like in the example I gave that I had yesterday I'm sure others would benefit from it as well??

For some reason I read all of that in my head with a heavy British accent. I guess because of the meters thing and the “fuck off” part. Either way it was hilarious.

 

[Jimgal62]

Use a remote camera system...TargetVision is my preference.

In 5 years or less we will be using personal drones with real time video to identify hits on targets.

 

[Precision Underground]

Use a remote camera system...TargetVision is my preference.

In 5 years or less we will be using personal drones with real time video to identify hits on targets.

I have seen people fly the drone down and land it with a camera pointing at the target. Prob an expensive set up but you are right it will become more affordable soon. Hopefully.

 

[supercorndogs]

And just for a teachable moment.... @Gunfighter14e2 and @supercorndogs. Both of you said you could see the impacts in the video that was posted. You can go on youtube and frame by frame it and you will realize that you are not seeing what you think you are seeing.
Before the shot
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First frame, cant see much here....
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second, hmmmm no impact yet.
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Third frame, nope.
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Fourth frame and probably where the impact happens but I couldnt confirm it until the next frame by the dirt in the background. Is this where yall are seeing the hole happen in the paper?
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And fifth frame after the shot breaks. There is now dirt flying in the air behind the target. Is this the spot yall are seeing the hole being made in the paper??
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That was the first five frames after the shot broke to impact. It was another 15 frames before the scope settled enough to make anything out.
And yes, I picked the shot with the least movement on the scope. Moral of the story is you aren't always seeing what you think you are seeing.

This is a great demonstration of why a 30 frame per second I phone video is useless here. Flight time and each frame being .0333 of second long should put the impact in between frames 3 to 5 It looks like I can see evidence of both bullet holes on the target in frame 5{the one on the sticker and the one on the silhouette}, could be what my eye picked up in real time, tough to say anything staring at a blurry frame by frame. Other than the hole should be there by frame 4 or 5, and it appears it is in the frame by frame, if so, it is .033-.066 of a second slower than real time.

Maybe you should send me money for a high speed camera, so I can show you what I see...........Surley, with enough money i record what I see... right?

 

[Gunfighter14e2]

And just for a teachable moment.... @Gunfighter14e2 and @supercorndogs. Both of you said you could see the impacts in the video that was posted. You can go on youtube and frame by frame it and you will realize that you are not seeing what you think you are seeing.
Before the shot
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First frame, cant see much here....
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second, hmmmm no impact yet.
View attachment 6924608


Third frame, nope.
View attachment 6924609


Fourth frame and probably where the impact happens but I couldnt confirm it until the next frame by the dirt in the background. Is this where yall are seeing the hole happen in the paper?
View attachment 6924610


And fifth frame after the shot breaks. There is now dirt flying in the air behind the target. Is this the spot yall are seeing the hole being made in the paper??
View attachment 6924612


That was the first five frames after the shot broke to impact. It was another 15 frames before the scope settled enough to make anything out.
And yes, I picked the shot with the least movement on the scope. Moral of the story is you aren't always seeing what you think you are seeing.

Show me where I said that!, I never said anything about the video. Again you like to inject words never spoken. Besides mounting a video camera to a scope induces recoil harmonics, that is not induced into the shooter's eye the same way.
Frank gave you a thumbs up in your post based upon the question you ask him, not your entire post.
He also said seeing the hole appear is the zen of shooting.
He most likely could teach you how to do it if you would listen an take direction, which you seem to have issue with. If he can teach a FNG with a POS hunting rifle to self spot, don't you think he could teach you a thing or two? Could be after you have fired a few 100K rds you might be able to do it, then again maybe not. Your problem is you don't know,... what you don't know,... as someone else pointed out.
I'm done with you, as trying to teach you something/anything is a lost cause. Keep doing it wrong I/we don't care!

 

[Precision Underground]

This is a great demonstration of why a 30 frame per second I phone video is useless here. Flight time and each frame being .0333 of second long should put the impact in between frames 3 to 5 It looks like I can see evidence of both bullet holes on the target in frame 5{the one on the sticker and the one on the silhouette}, could be what my eye picked up in real time, tough to say anything staring at a blurry frame by frame. Other than the hole should be there by frame 4 or 5, and it appears it is in the frame by frame, if so, it is .033-.066 of a second slower than real time.

Maybe you should send me money for a high speed camera, so I can show you what I see...........Surley, with enough money i record what I see... right?

But you said you could see the impacts on the video. The frame by frame clearly shows that is not possible. See why I am questioning what you say you are seeing in real life?

 

[Gunfighter14e2]

But you said you could see the impacts on the video. The frame by frame clearly shows that is not possible. See why I am questioning what you say you are seeing in real life?

Show me where I said that ???????? I never said anything about that video!

 

[TheGerman]

lol this fucking thread

If you can't see the impact because your scope blacked out or your scope ended up pointed 3 feet to the left; work on recoil management and getting behind the gun.

If you can't see if because you are flinching, fix the flinch.

If you can't see it because you are just too far, it may be due to you having poor/mediocre glass, the parallax adjustment is correct but is blurring the target, your eye sight is going to shit, you don't have enough magnification or the conditions are hiding your shot. There have been some days where the mirage was so bad or the wind was blowing so much that it was making a dust storm in the air that I couldn't see shit as far as impacts.

There are other times where you can actually see the trace of the round and follow it as it moves onto the target.

The ways I confirm hits and get corrections:

- Guy spotting on my Spotter 60
- If conditions allow, I can see the trace/impact/steel move/steel ring
- Go down to target and know I fired 5 rounds; whats on the target?

I've been curious about the magnetospeed target light; with my luck on the first round I'd end up shooting it.

 

[Mooncake]

lol this fucking thread

I've been curious about the magnetospeed target light; with my luck on the first round I'd end up shooting it.

I think the reflector that you could potentially hit is made to take some rounds. The breakable parts are behind the steel. I ordered one, hope to have it this week.