How much fitness do i need 2 do to start using whe

[KajolThappar]

i do 30 minutes running every day, i eat healthy and do a variety of weights every day as well as sit ups press ups. im thinking about buying whey protein powder but don't know if this is enough fitness to start using protein powder??







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[JJones75]

Re: How much fitness do i need 2 do to start using whe

you can do absolutly nothing and use whey.

Whey protein is digested and absorbed fatser than any other protein type.

use it directly after ANY physical activity

 

[head2h2o]

Re: How much fitness do i need 2 do to start using whe

You should be doing the whey protein immediately after your runs or working out. Otherwise, you run the risk of going catabolic and degrading your muscle tissue due to the release of cortisol. Whey protein due to its rapid absorption rate compared to other protein sources will help to inhibit some of the catabolic effects of activity. It is probably the best post workout option available. Choose a whey protein concentrate, preferably one that is processed at low heat as it is more biologically available since the amino acids are not degraded by the heat. The best source that I have found is through a company called Designs for Health. They make a product called Whey Cool that is palatable and not loaded with sugar. Most of the ones without sugar or some artificial sweetener taste like chalk at best.

You don't have to workout to consume whey protein though.

 

[JJones75]

Re: How much fitness do i need 2 do to start using whe

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: head2h2o</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You should be doing the whey protein immediately after your runs or working out. Otherwise, you run the risk of going catabolic and degrading your muscle tissue due to the release of cortisol. Whey protein due to its rapid absorption rate compared to other protein sources will help to inhibit some of the catabolic effects of activity. It is probably the best post workout option available. <span style="color: #FF0000">Choose a whey protein concentrate, preferably one that is processed at low heat as it is more biologically available since the amino acids are not degraded by the heat</span>. The best source that I have found is through a company called Designs for Health. They make a product called Whey Cool that is palatable and not loaded with sugar. Most of the ones without sugar or some artificial sweetener taste like chalk at best.

You don't have to workout to consume whey protein though. </div></div>

What are you basing this information on?
Whey concentrate is much harder for the body to digest and is only about 80%-85% absorbtion rate which is the reason alot of people get upset stomach from it also a reason its much cheaper.
Whey Isolate has an absorbtion rate of about 90%-95% and is much easier for the body to digest and use
Egg protein has the highest absorbtion rate which is about 98% but it takes a good bit longer to digest than whey

I use a protein blen from tureprotein.com called "Team Skip" its 33% Whey , 33% Egg and 33% Casein , it allows the body to start to use it instantly then the longer action proiteins allow the body to continue to feed on it for 6-7hrs after taking this way you body is never in a catabolic state especialy if your eating every 3-4 hrs

 

[Lindy]

Re: How much fitness do i need 2 do to start using whe

My after-workout protein drink is chocolate milk...

Carb replenishment is beer.

 

[chris223]

Re: How much fitness do i need 2 do to start using whe

after work out is a protein shake and an apple then I eat
like a man on death row.

 

[ocherp]

Re: How much fitness do i need 2 do to start using whe

Ideally, you should be consuming about 1.5-2g of protein per pound of body weight. Protein also takes your body more energy to metabolize which helps you "slim" down to a certain degree if your PT is minimal, in my opinion it can't hurt taking protein because RDA says like 50-55 g is needed daily depedning on what you read, well lets just say I'm taking about 200-250g a day in about 25g increments because you're body only absorbs about 30-35g max at a time, just my $0.02

 

[head2h2o]

Re: How much fitness do i need 2 do to start using whe

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: JJones75</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: head2h2o</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You should be doing the whey protein immediately after your runs or working out. Otherwise, you run the risk of going catabolic and degrading your muscle tissue due to the release of cortisol. Whey protein due to its rapid absorption rate compared to other protein sources will help to inhibit some of the catabolic effects of activity. It is probably the best post workout option available. <span style="color: #FF0000">Choose a whey protein concentrate, preferably one that is processed at low heat as it is more biologically available since the amino acids are not degraded by the heat</span>. The best source that I have found is through a company called Designs for Health. They make a product called Whey Cool that is palatable and not loaded with sugar. Most of the ones without sugar or some artificial sweetener taste like chalk at best.

You don't have to workout to consume whey protein though. </div></div>

What are you basing this information on?
Whey concentrate is much harder for the body to digest and is only about 80%-85% absorbtion rate which is the reason alot of people get upset stomach from it also a reason its much cheaper.
Whey Isolate has an absorbtion rate of about 90%-95% and is much easier for the body to digest and use
Egg protein has the highest absorbtion rate which is about 98% but it takes a good bit longer to digest than whey

I use a protein blen from tureprotein.com called "Team Skip" its 33% Whey , 33% Egg and 33% Casein , it allows the body to start to use it instantly then the longer action proiteins allow the body to continue to feed on it for 6-7hrs after taking this way you body is never in a catabolic state especialy if your eating every 3-4 hrs </div></div>

Note that I clarified the type of whey protein. I did not say any whey protein, I said a whey protein concentrate that is not denatured by the high heat process. Any of the forms of whey protein that are formed through cross-flow filtration, microfiltration (the trueprotein blend that you refer to), ultrafiltration, hydrolyzation or ion exchange methods denature the protein. This is basic biochemistry. Proteins are denatured beyond a certain temperature. This is why enzymes, which are proteins, only work within a certain temperature range.

Here is a study out of the peer reviewed Journal of Dairy Science confirming the above statements. This is merely one such example.

http://www.journalofdairyscience.org/article/S0022-0302(87)80156-X/abstract

As for digestion of whey proteins, I do agree with you that the typical whey protein is harder to digest. I have seen this clinically with store bought products. This is not the case with the low heat processed varieties of whey protein.

In regards to absorption rates, I said nothing as it relates to other proteins, only that whey protein is the preferred option post-workout.

I would also recommend that you consider the likelihood of promoting an allergic response to both dairy, predominantly casein, and egg by providing it to someone on a daily basis or even every other day. Eggs and dairy, along with gluten and soy are among the highest allergenic foods. If you consult with laboratories that routinely test for immunological reactions to food, they will confirm that these are the most problematic foods. Moreover, this creates a state of chronic inflammation which has been shown to affect body composition and promote chronic disease in peer reviewed literature.

You might want to rethink your recommendations. I also noticed that with the exception of Stevia, the blend that you recommend is sweetened with neurotoxic and cytotoxic artifical sweeteners. And before you can blow this off as being junk science, feel free to follow any of the below web pages to again peer reviewed journals, validating these statements.

http://www.casesjournal.com/content/2/1/9237

http://informahealthcare.com/doi/abs/10.1080/01480540802390270%20

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17673349