Wow, some serious hate.
Anyway. So if not Q, gun works vs tbac.
Tbac lighter, but threads in front taper. Proven.
Gun works, larger diameter. Correct taper thread orientation. Newer but an establish company on precision world.
Everything I said is verifiable. That's not hate, that's just the verifiable truth.
One thing you can do is try to find people that have actually had issues with having the taper behind the threads to see whether or not it's going to matter in the first place.
Again, TBAC Ultra 9 is way better than a Full Nelson or Thunder Chicken. Way stronger and much quieter with supersonic ammo and lighter too. And assuming you get the muzzle brake mounted TBAC silencer, you'll have a way more effective muzzle brake that isn't directing gas at the dirt directly below the brake. While minor in this case, the TBAC silencer also won't suffer from particle erosion as much as a Q silencer due to the differences in baffle geometry, and manufacturing process unless Q changed that recently. A TBAC Ultra 7, which is the midsize model, meters the same with supersonic 308 as a Q Thunder Chicken when properly metered on a BK Pulse system.
Unless someone with a capable meter gets a Gunwerks silencer and meters it properly in comparison to known baselines, no one is going to know whether or not it's quieter than anything else. It's hard to mess up stainless steel welds so I'm sure their welds are just fine. Titanium welds are significantly more sensitive and easy to do wrong.
Maybe you can be one of the first people with a Gunwerks silencer. Someone has to be the test case eventually. Plus, like the people at Thunderbeast, Dead Air, Rugged, Energetic, etc, they're good dudes.
If you're planning on buying later rather than sooner, the Dead Air Nomax is worth waiting for. Imagine a Nomad, but longer.
Thank you reasonable adult.
To back this up. I had messaged Todd Huey, he recommended the thunder chicken. He actually gets to test alot of variety. He also prob puts 100x the rounds down range as most the keyboard jockeys.
Thanks. I will take all your considerations. I think I'm. Between a Q , tbac, gunwerks.
The current thin bead SIG rifle silencers when compared to Q rifle silencers are superior in both weld strength and muzzle devices as previously stated.
Bottom line is, if you're really looking for the company that makes the the best product like you previously said, then don't bother looking at Q if supersonic sound suppression, weld strength/quality, a few ounces of weight, or brake effectiveness matters to you when compared to something like Thunderbeast.
I actually have a Q suppressor. A thunder chicken. It is lightweight, quiet, and the mount has never failed me in any way. I have a trash panda and a half nelson in jail.
There are lots of good options. I just happened to choose Q. I'm sure i would be just as happy with other quality brands. My point is, you're not going to get an unbiased opinion about Q products here. Q, really Kevin, is almost universally hated here. His antics don't bother me, but i can see why some people are turned off by him. So take criticism of Q products with a little grain of salt. Or buy a tbac, deadair, gunwerks, etc. as i am sure they are great products as well.
I actually have a Thunder Chicken as well. Actually, I have all of the Q silencers and even some duplicates of them. We bought all those along with ten of their Fix rifles and Honey Badger SBR a long while back. Not only do I know how they all perform on a proper meter and to the ear with a large assortment of hosts and ammo types and what the weak and strong points are of the various features and manufacturing/construction methods, I actually know the guy behind it all and know the kind of person he is in real life.
Would you rather he goes out and finds someone who's just going to omit information about performance, construction, welding, positives, negatives, design history, manufacturing methods, etc just so that person can seem unbiased?
It's not like I'm the one that has any reason to be lying to consumers. There's just no reason for me to do it. The truth is enough for people to figure things out for themselves, and that's all he's being provided, at least by me. The things I'm sharing here aren't "opinion". It's not my "opinion" that sharp angled, tightly packed, thin, ported baffles and hex features on silencers are from 1909/1910. It's not my "opinion" that tubeless silencers have been manfactured since at least 2005. It's not my "opinion" that a TBAC Ultra 9 meters quieter than a Q Full Nelson with supersonic 308 ammo. It's not my "opinion" that Q doesn't follow proper AWS welding standards for titanium. It's not my "opinion" that Kevin lies to consumers about a myriad of things. It's not my "opinion" that Kevin lies about other companies and their products. Etc, etc, etc.
Bias is irrelevant here. Facts are facts whether they're perceived as positive or not.
This isn't to go after you at all, and it's absolutely not to say you should be at all disappointed with your purchases. As long as
you're happy with it then that's all that matters. Either way, compared to most silencers the Q/SIG models, particularly the full size ones, excel at subsonic Blackout suppression. This is just me explaining my position here, nothing more.
