So what you're saying is that it's okay for 3 teenage boys to sense "danger" but not the gent who they are walking up on. Since when is thinking about possibly having to defend ones self a bad thing? Fortune favors the prepared.
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I have just encountered the laziest millennials of all time
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Real world taking a bite? What's the real world you speak of @TheGerman? The world we live in now (obviously not the real world) will coddle them and claim all sorts of stuff conjured up out of the commie playbook and/or crack-fried brain as to why they count as infrastructure and we should perhaps give them millions for not doing anything but playing on the car hood.
Plenty of Boomers went to Viet Nam, served their country, love Jesus, etc.
There's good and bad in all generations, but you have to admit it's getting worse and worse.
LOL! Most educated!!!!
Ed-U muhcation don't make a person smart.
I have a straight-A 14yr old in my house.
He has trouble untying a simple knot.
No, what im saying is i dont automatically go to pull my beretta on children because they are approaching, thats not a thought a well adjusted person has.
The headline should be. LAZY RICH MAN TRIES TO GET LAZY RICH KIDS TO DO WORK, ENDS AS EXPECTED.
Ohhh Boy here we go, hold on lemme heat up the popcorn and grab a cold one
A friend of mine recently went back to college and completed his business degree. He is about 40 and most of the kids there were late teens to early 20's. The stories he told me about the kids thinking that once they were done with school they would get their 6 figure jobs and work 20-30 hours per week. He would explain that it wasn't realistic, but other professors would tell them that's how the world is now. Either they are in for a rude awakening, or we are truly doomed.
Parents who buy their kids the things they didn't have growing up and not having them do things around the house, yard or tasks required for any allowance is part of the problem.
I've watched kids drive better cars than a lot of people because Daddy wouldn't want his kid to have a wreck to drive it would hurt his image, they drink Starbuck coffee to and from school because Daddy gives them money so they don't have to look poor to they friends.
That really helps them get ready for the real world right???
Boomers were guilty of that and the following generations have gone beyond that to make them feel better about their kids not needing..... REALLY not all BOOMERS AT FAULT ON THIS I"D SAY
I've watched kids drive better cars than a lot of people because Daddy wouldn't want his kid to have a wreck to drive it would hurt his image, they drink Starbuck coffee to and from school because Daddy gives them money so they don't have to look poor to they friends.
That really helps them get ready for the real world right???
Boomers were guilty of that and the following generations have gone beyond that to make them feel better about their kids not needing..... REALLY not all BOOMERS AT FAULT ON THIS I"D SAY
When I read it my first thought was 'wonder what that 0 tip would do to someone at 10 ft?'
I don't think his point was that every single boomer did a bad job, I think he was making a general statement. The point is that overall as a generation boomers did a bad job parenting, not every single boomer. I'd have to agree, boomers are really the first generation who as parents centered their lives around their kids and gave them WAY too much and expected far too little from their kids. As a result, millennials are even worse parents. My parents are boomers, but they were fantastic parents, my point is it's possible to acknowledge a generalization is true, while at the same time understanding it's not exclusive. Sounds like you did a fantastic job as a parent.
I think you are firmly dancing on the high-strung button and will get a response to help clarify things for you shortly.
But while the cavalry gets mounted up, I have honest questions: what would you consider well adjusted in this day and age of roaming teenage ANTIFA bands, etc? When in your estimation is a good time to consider the intentions of someone walking up to you? What life experiences do you have handling such threats (IOW, your points of reference)?
Lazy Rich Man? Dude was power washing the rocks in his waterfall. Lazy rich man employs migrants to bring in fresh rocks, clean and fill waterfall with spring water.
A few have pointed this out already, but yeah these aren't millennials, the youngest millennials are mid 20s, and the oldest ones are early 40s. Not that millennials would do much better in the same situation, as a generation we've certainly demonstrated some fanatical levels of laziness and self righteousness (yes I am a millennial, I would know).
Gen Y, or Millennials, were born between 1981 and 1994/6. They are currently between 25 and 40 years old (72.1 million in the U.S.)
Gen Y.1 = 25-29 years old (around 31 million people in the U.S.)
Gen Y.2 = 29-39 (around 42 million people in the U.S.)
Just so we are all on the same page with a millennials age
I had a gen y.2 working form me at one point, he would spend more time and energy arguing why something shouldn't be done than it would have taken to just do it. I am in the IT business and some things are debatable, not all 'upgrades' are wise, but he took it to an extreme. I was so glad when he quit. He fell under the category of 2 degrees, highly educated and felt the degrees meant he should just get a paycheck for showing up and making verbal comments about work.
Gen Y.1 = 25-29 years old (around 31 million people in the U.S.)
Gen Y.2 = 29-39 (around 42 million people in the U.S.)
Just so we are all on the same page with a millennials age
I had a gen y.2 working form me at one point, he would spend more time and energy arguing why something shouldn't be done than it would have taken to just do it. I am in the IT business and some things are debatable, not all 'upgrades' are wise, but he took it to an extreme. I was so glad when he quit. He fell under the category of 2 degrees, highly educated and felt the degrees meant he should just get a paycheck for showing up and making verbal comments about work.
I mean you no disrespect Sir, as you are obviously commenting based on your own personal experiences which leave me thinking they must be somewhat limited. For the record, I grew up in Texas, in the country, Cut-n-Shoot to be exact. Went to Texas A&M. Had to move to Kentucky for a job, now live behind enemy lines in Chicago for love, at least for another 12 years while my step daughter grows up. Up here, it doesn’t matter where you are in and around the city, if a group a teenage boys approaches you any well adjusted person will be thinking the same thing TheGerman was thinking; if you don’t your mileage may very and you likely will find your thinking getting adjusted for you against your will. Had I never left Cut-n-Shoot, I might have your same perspective.
Since you seem to be an experiential learner, I invite you to expand your life experience by spending a few days walking around the Austin neighborhood 6 miles west of downtown Chicago. I assure you that you will be approached by groups of teenage boys that have nothing better to do than give you a life experience you obviously have never had nor even read about. It will help you to redefine what you deem a “well adjusted” person and how you they think they should think.
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That's just Aggie think
. ROFL. However, though I'm not an Aggie, I'm glad A&M is still somewhat still a real Univ and hasn't completely bought into the shit at UT-Austin. Anyway, a lot depends on the "children." If they are in high school, they're very close to being an adult; and as such, people need to be somewhat on-guard (having lived in multiple big cities this is something I always notice). No matter what, when a group of teen boys get together (especially >3) things may happen. There is a pack mentality. It doesn't matter if they are white, black, Hispanic, Asian...it's the same. One can also size up the threat at times by visual observation of behavior.
Me thinks @TheGerman wouldn't have given 2-shits in Hell about a group of 5 well behaved Boy Scouts making their rounds; but the shouting, playing (as my coach would say in Jr. High) "grab ass" would alert anybody with an ounce of self-preservation in their blood.
No man Ewoks were industrious little furry bastards. They worked and took down at least 2 if not 3 AT-ST's
These worthless pos kids are the product of what their teachers and parents put into them.
There are still a decent amount of good parents out there bringing up decent kids but yeah the level of ineptitude has risen highly since the 80's
I get what your saying, i have lived up north. But thegerman was at home, cleaning his built in his house water fountain in his affluent neighborhood filled with affluent children that have dads as rich or richer than him. I equate this to thinking about shooting your neighbor when he comes to barrow sugar. Now in a seedy back alley sidestreet part of town i totally get the reaction. I go thru cut n shoot all the time on my way east. Nice little town
The kids were working too, but he acts like thier job, fundraising, is bullshit and they should drop what they are doing to help him work for what equates to today as about 5 bucks. They blew him off and he got mad enough to write this self involved woe is me post.... someone not lazy would have said no thanks and kept working and not had time to bitch about it on a gun site.
Abso-fucking-lutely right.
Gen X would have gotten the shit, had we had social media. But I always consider us "the Lost Generation". Fitting with our "Latchkey kid" title. However, I do think that almost all people tend to be generationally myopic.
I work with tons of Millennials. In general, they're very hard working, ambitious, and definitely smarter than the generations before them (academically speaking). Their down side, is that they tend to be high strung. You can't call them names, you can't dress them down in front of a crowd. Sensitive fuckers.
I was a Gen X, who when I fucked up at work, had guys saying things like, "what are you fucking stupid"? I suppose that, rather than get offended about it, I was just that rare oddball that decided to try to understand where my critic was coming from. All in all, that seemed to have worked pretty well for me. I also grew up solving problems with my fists, and I have to say, more of that wouldn't hurt.
But it is what it is...
Challenge accepted
I would be thinking the same. Sorry it hurts your feelings, but trusting people you don't know can have terminal consequences. I would have offered them work, as well. If you're serious about you cause, you don't mind sweating for it. If not, "Get off my lawn."
That's a pretty shitty statement to throw out there.
For 150 years, we trashed our own habitat with the remnants of industry. Then, instead of cleaning it up - because you know, environmentalists are all wrong, all the time - we decided that it was cheaper to push the problem to somebody else. Imagine, as a nation, being so fucking proud, that you are more willing to see a corporation offset your pollution problem, by sending it elsewhere - along with your life and livelihood - than just to come up with a better strategy for keeping it clean, to begin with. And all because you don't want to get caught agreeing with some dirty hippie, on any single fucking thing.
That's a HUGE part of why "chinks" (your words, not mine) are doing the jobs that we did the best, for so very long. It's also part of the reason why today, you have to deal with Gen Z and Millennials. There's less and less honest blue collar work, to give people a basis for being industrious.
But keep blaming others...
Do you have a reading comprehension problem? Go find out where he said he pulled out a gun on them and then show us.
Maybe your boys down at the car wash, but I've worked in industries where people are paid for their brains. Something that you probably don't know much about.
If you have some proof to the contrary, please, do share...
Just curious what part of the country you're from. Should be informative.
You missed my point and you're also dead fucking wrong about why many manufacturing jobs left here.
But do school me on my profession of over 30 years. I would love to learn from a master...........
I don’t know what kind of neighborhood TheGerman lives in, but I live in an “affluent” neighborhood a few miles west of the Austin neighborhood I mentioned, and it would not be wise to let my guard down regardless of how affluent the homes are around me. There’s no place in Chicago you can let your guard down.
Working? LOL TheGerman offered them a chance to make the equivalent of $100/hr / ea. The fools hadn't accomplished a thing at what they were doing, but didn't have time for $25 for 15 min of actual work (and a life lesson at no charge).
I don't know what your profession is. If it overlaps with mine, then I just might.
You made a broad statement about all people, and I gave you an observation from my own perspective. I have noticed that you don't much appreciate when others don't corroborate your own authoritative accounts. Which makes pushing that button even more satisfying.
I think 308 is referencing the consequences of actions, not desire for an outcome. If we cant get our shit done as a country then we deserve the consequences of our inaction and should expect no one to save us from it. IOW, we have earned our consequences, one way or the other. That's just life. Especially when you know another country is coming after you and little is done to stop it.
Kissinger and a lot like him sold out the country for environmental reasons? Cool story.
Do you work for yourself?Because you're obsolete. You don't have to care. Which is fine... But it ain't your world anymore. Get used to it.
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VERY interesting thread . . . So much to comment on!
"Lazy Rich Man? Dude was power washing the rocks in his waterfall." His WATERFALL?? Okay - maybe not "lazy" but I'll vote my absentee ballot (I'm in Georgia) for "Rich". Now I feel poor because I don't have a waterfall; I think this means I've been triggered . . . if you need me I'l be in my safe place.
Comment Re Boomers proves the adage - "All generalizations are false." My three all married, own homes, and got worthwhile educations. Daughter met her husband while both were cadets at West Point, though she withdrew so they could get married (wanted to avoid a two-career Army marriage). Since then they've been foster parents to over 60 kids, adopted two.
Not wanting to work isn't just a millennial problem: Good friend was pastor at a small church 40 years ago. Said hardly a day went by some panhandler didn't knock on the door asking for charity. He kept a broom and a rake beside the door and told them he couldn't just hand anything out, but if they'd spend an hour or so cleaning up the front lawn of the church he'd give them a sammich and some cash. He said 99% just turned and walked away.
"Lazy Rich Man? Dude was power washing the rocks in his waterfall." His WATERFALL?? Okay - maybe not "lazy" but I'll vote my absentee ballot (I'm in Georgia) for "Rich". Now I feel poor because I don't have a waterfall; I think this means I've been triggered . . . if you need me I'l be in my safe place.
Comment Re Boomers proves the adage - "All generalizations are false." My three all married, own homes, and got worthwhile educations. Daughter met her husband while both were cadets at West Point, though she withdrew so they could get married (wanted to avoid a two-career Army marriage). Since then they've been foster parents to over 60 kids, adopted two.
Not wanting to work isn't just a millennial problem: Good friend was pastor at a small church 40 years ago. Said hardly a day went by some panhandler didn't knock on the door asking for charity. He kept a broom and a rake beside the door and told them he couldn't just hand anything out, but if they'd spend an hour or so cleaning up the front lawn of the church he'd give them a sammich and some cash. He said 99% just turned and walked away.
Thank you. We've been complaining about lazy motherfuckers and the "welfare state" for a lot longer than these generations have even existed.
They probably were only “selling” them because they have to, not like they keep any of the money.
Also when you’re that scared that you thought about pulling a gun in that situation, well maybe don’t cast the first stone, you blade at 45 for the girl scouts too? Lol
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Just to add a bit of hope, we had the privilege of looking after a "particular young man" here who's been the recipient of the Squirrel Mafia's "GGWG" efforts. (some of ya'll know of whom I speak)
When he arrived, he was then given access to a large table that had 5 separate and completely different firearms that had been stripped down to individual components, and all placed into a single, mixed pile.
He'd previously never seen any of these items before, in real life. His only experience was "shooting his uncle's .22 some years ago" as well as whatever it is they do on video-games. So all this REALLY was unique for him.
He first divided up what he thought were 'similarly finished' items and put them into individual piles. Then there were still parts left that he didn't have a clue on, but attempted to logic his way thought it. (an example would be, he didn't have a clue what an Op-Rod did, or where it went, but he was pretty positive it went with the pump-action Defender.)
Just the 'individually inspecting each piece' and logicing his way through those piles took over an hour. Then he spent at least another hour, seeing/trying to fit the pieces and figure out where they go, and contemplate what they did and stuff.
--this all took place with supervision and support, but he knew from the beginning that he was on his own, and that there was no hurry or expectation. Just investigate, and enjoy. The whole process was titled from the beginning of "3D Jigsaw Puzzles, for MEN". (oh boy, did he LIKE that one!)
The whole point of my blathering here, was to point out that he spent 'some hours' on this task. He enjoyed it, and he was proud of himself. He felt very rewarded simply being given the opportunity to DO it to begin with.
In the end, he was able to stand in front of a bolt-action, pump-action, gas-operated semi, blowback semi, and a toggle action. Remember, this is ALL with him NEVER seeing the real things in real life, before. He'd fired his uncle's .22 long ago, and he played video games.
He spent a few hours at this, and afterwards wanted 'more'. He's going to be introduced to other things when he spends time around here. Such as construction carpentry, finish carpentry, hand tools, power tools, milling and turning, welding and soldering. Mostly though, our intent is to show him "how to create" small items, and then further conceptualize how those 'small items' can then turn into "larger devices" that perform a task.
Him, and his brothers too, are DEFINITELY worth spending time with, and on. They're great young men. And to be clear, we'd do everything EXACTLY the same if there were any 'young women' in the mix. There just aren't any in our "small circle of friends" at the moment.
So yeah, there is still hope. Not much, but some.
When he arrived, he was then given access to a large table that had 5 separate and completely different firearms that had been stripped down to individual components, and all placed into a single, mixed pile.
He'd previously never seen any of these items before, in real life. His only experience was "shooting his uncle's .22 some years ago" as well as whatever it is they do on video-games. So all this REALLY was unique for him.
He first divided up what he thought were 'similarly finished' items and put them into individual piles. Then there were still parts left that he didn't have a clue on, but attempted to logic his way thought it. (an example would be, he didn't have a clue what an Op-Rod did, or where it went, but he was pretty positive it went with the pump-action Defender.)
Just the 'individually inspecting each piece' and logicing his way through those piles took over an hour. Then he spent at least another hour, seeing/trying to fit the pieces and figure out where they go, and contemplate what they did and stuff.
--this all took place with supervision and support, but he knew from the beginning that he was on his own, and that there was no hurry or expectation. Just investigate, and enjoy. The whole process was titled from the beginning of "3D Jigsaw Puzzles, for MEN". (oh boy, did he LIKE that one!)
The whole point of my blathering here, was to point out that he spent 'some hours' on this task. He enjoyed it, and he was proud of himself. He felt very rewarded simply being given the opportunity to DO it to begin with.
In the end, he was able to stand in front of a bolt-action, pump-action, gas-operated semi, blowback semi, and a toggle action. Remember, this is ALL with him NEVER seeing the real things in real life, before. He'd fired his uncle's .22 long ago, and he played video games.
He spent a few hours at this, and afterwards wanted 'more'. He's going to be introduced to other things when he spends time around here. Such as construction carpentry, finish carpentry, hand tools, power tools, milling and turning, welding and soldering. Mostly though, our intent is to show him "how to create" small items, and then further conceptualize how those 'small items' can then turn into "larger devices" that perform a task.
Him, and his brothers too, are DEFINITELY worth spending time with, and on. They're great young men. And to be clear, we'd do everything EXACTLY the same if there were any 'young women' in the mix. There just aren't any in our "small circle of friends" at the moment.
So yeah, there is still hope. Not much, but some.
Everything is down to Henry Kissinger? Really?
There are problems, and there are symptoms of problems. It doesn't hurt to delineate once in awhile. HK is a bad actor. He didn't single handedly create, then "solve" the "problem". That's Derp.
It was..... until a certain pair of self righteous know it all jackasses show up to pontificate again.
Kinda lost its allure after that...
In other words, it was one-way traffic, but a different point of view came along, and polluted the safe space.
And I had forgotten to mention, that when the task was completed (with a little assistance from us) he had one heck of a big smile on his face. The pictures we took, show it.
But when the little laser was chambered in the 'blowback' and he pulled the trigger for the first time..... oh man the HUGE GRIN on his face made it all worth it, and more. He wanted MORE of that!
Mission accomplished.
But when the little laser was chambered in the 'blowback' and he pulled the trigger for the first time..... oh man the HUGE GRIN on his face made it all worth it, and more. He wanted MORE of that!
Mission accomplished.
