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It's all relative
The best costs money, if you cannot afford the best you make due with that is available, bitching about it will not change the fact, RRS is the best tripod on the market.
Guys can't afford a lot of stuff, it's part of the game
The mission drives the gear.No bitching here..lol
Simple economics, $1,200 is going to buy a ton of reloading components. And honestly for my purposes = killing coyotes at 200 yards or less at night, this setup is more than capable.
OK, sure, the best costs money and any business should set their price for maximum profits. But any body who has been around for a while knows that whats the best today is going to be barely OK tomorrow.It's all relative
The best costs money, if you cannot afford the best you make due with that is available, bitching about it will not change the fact, RRS is the best tripod on the market.
Guys can't afford a lot of stuff, it's part of the game
OK, sure, the best costs money and any business should set their price for maximum profits. But any body who has been around for a while knows that whats the best today is going to be barely OK tomorrow.
Look at scopes. I paid a fucking fortune for my first S&B PMII 5-25x56 years back. The same scope can be bought today for much less money, because competition has introduced products on all sides of it now it is possible to acquire either the exact same scope or one with features you may like even better for less money. As a matter of fact I paid the same money for my first S&B 3-27x56 as I paid for my first 5-25x56 a far better scope for the same money.
My point is that if you can get by with something less for a few years you will be able to get something better for less. I don't need to be a part of some snobby elite that always has the latest gizmo. Most people here are smart enough not to be manipulated by the snobbery of remarks like "if you cannot afford the best you make due with that is available." I along with most others will wait until better deals are available.
Anyone looking for a less expensive upgrade to their current setup could consider this: https://patriotvalleyarms.com/comp-40-tripod/
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With the amount of wobble I saw through your scope in your video and the fact that you were using a thermal, I am more than blow away at your success on the toe warmer.
Having spent several years on tripods the last few including the RRS; With that much wobble I would not be able, even with my daytime glass and a precision rifle, shoot that well.
Pfft, all these guys and their fancy tripods. This works good enough for 99% of applications. Runs about $12 or less.
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Now, you may need to carry a couple dozen with you as they tend to bend the legs after a few shots. But we already treat things as consumable like barrels and ammo, why not tripods?
Hey now! Giving away my secrets!Pfft, all these guys and their fancy tripods. This works good enough for 99% of applications. Runs about $12 or less.
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Now, you may need to carry a couple dozen with you as they tend to bend the legs after a few shots. But we already treat things as consumable like barrels and ammo, why not tripods?
@LawnMM , which head / clamp system are you using?
I you cannot make the shot with a$750 tripod, you will probably not make it with a $1500 tripod either.
I have a Leofoto 364. I can't imagine how a RRS is any better, but I haven't played with them much. The Leofoto allows me to make all the same shots everyone here is describing and costs a little more than ha;f your quoted price for a RRS tripod.
I you cannot make the shot with a$750 tripod, you will probably not make it with a $1500 tripod either.
Spoken like somebody who's tried neither
I you cannot make the shot with a$750 tripod, you will probably not make it with a $1500 tripod either.
Read the above reply. I have the 364.
So the $532 to your door is the "$750 tripod"? Forgive my confusion.So I went with the Leofoto and could not be happier. I love it. $532 at my door.
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So the $532 to your door is the "$750 tripod"? Forgive my confusion.
Would you guys shoot with Chinese actions and barrels even if they were "just as good at half the price"?
I'm not sure, but the competition would likely cause the domestic manufacturer to lower prices. Things like precision actions and barrels do not seem to be a Chineese strong point.
My cheap bushnell spotter is the last Chinese shooting product I’ll ever purchase.And there's the key, it's fine for what you do and it works for you, hard to argue with that.
It's when guys buy Chinese knockoffs and claim because the paper load rating is the same then it's just as good as the premium product.
That's when the eyebrows go up ?
Keep buying Walmart Amazon Chinese crap, watch jobs dry up and small towns wither. Five years later you’re dead from an overdose.
If you say so ?
Have you even used a 364 or 404 leofoto? The quality is remarkable and so is the stability. I can easily make shots at 900 yards with it on 12x12 plates. It’s incredibly well built and steady and fast to deploy. Really not sure what more someone for ask for.
It’s clear you are a RRS fan boy but cut the snobbery. We are just engaging in a discussion about tripods and the fact remains there are real alternatives out there that do not sacrifice quality or ease of use against the RRS. I’ve played with the RRS ones and they seem extremely similar to the leofoto. That said if you want to pay more and buy American that’s fantastic. But just because you don’t buy American doesn’t automatically mean you got a shit product. That’s just naive thinking.
Have you even used a 364 or 404 leofoto? The quality is remarkable and so is the stability. I can easily make shots at 900 yards with it on 12x12 plates. It’s incredibly well built and steady and fast to deploy. Really not sure what more someone for ask for.
It’s clear you are a RRS fan boy but cut the snobbery. We are just engaging in a discussion about tripods and the fact remains there are real alternatives out there that do not sacrifice quality or ease of use against the RRS. I’ve played with the RRS ones and they seem extremely similar to the leofoto. That said if you want to pay more and buy American that’s fantastic. But just because you don’t buy American doesn’t automatically mean you got a shit product. That’s just naive thinking.
Considering that China makes some things better than the USA now, yea I’d buy it.Would you guys shoot with Chinese actions and barrels even if they were "just as good at half the price"?
Steal enough technology and this will happen. Fuck China. They are thieves and a plague on the planet.Considering that China makes some things better than the USA now, yea I’d buy it.
Turns out, by exporting most of our manufacturing to China over the last 30 years or so, they have learned how to make stuff. I’ve heard some people in the business of testing military equipment say that some of the Chinese knock offs exceeded OEM’s performance.