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Recently, I've read several articles that say you get best accuracy when you have enough copper in the bore to fill the rough spots that are usually there, in just about any barrel.
Recently, I've read several articles that say you get best accuracy when you have enough copper in the bore to fill the rough spots that are usually there, in just about any barrel.
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I have been using parker hale brass round nosed cleaning jags and i wish i used them years ago you just wrap the patch around the jag and its held in place by how the jag is machined. It goes right through without having to putting alot of force just to get a little patch through the bore and stays in place nicley.What jags are you guys using?
I bent mine somehow and want to get one non brass to not get false readings on copper.
best i've ever used !!!Since getting my John Hancock rifle, I wanted to follow PVA’s recommended cleaning procedures. I’ve had my rifle to the range one time, shot 40 rounds, and cleaned it using their recommendations. I ran about 15 patches through it until the patches came out clean. However, I wasn’t using their recommended cleaning solvent, I hadn’t ordered any at the time. PVA recommends Bore Tech Eliminator for cleaning their barrels. I ordered some, sat down this evening and I ran some patches of it through my “clean” barrel. Holy cow!! I don’t think I’ve ever had anything clean copper out of a barrel like this before, especially a clean barrel. Here’s a pic of my patches. The first four are wet patches, and the next two are dry. I think I found my go to cleaning solvent.
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I have been using parker hale brass round nosed cleaning jags and i wish i used them years ago you just wrap the patch around the jag and its held in place by how the jag is machined. It goes right through without having to putting alot of force just to get a little patch through the bore and stays in place nicley.
I haven't seen any non-brass versions of these. Are you aware of any? I'd like to try them, but the brass gives false positives.
Thanks for the heads up, Ive been thinking about trying Boretech products. Ive read the Boretech C4 is the best for cleaning caked on carbon from a brake. Im interested in before/ after photos of how good this works.Since getting my John Hancock rifle, I wanted to follow PVA’s recommended cleaning procedures. I’ve had my rifle to the range one time, shot 40 rounds, and cleaned it using their recommendations. I ran about 15 patches through it until the patches came out clean. However, I wasn’t using their recommended cleaning solvent, I hadn’t ordered any at the time. PVA recommends Bore Tech Eliminator for cleaning their barrels. I ordered some, sat down this evening and I ran some patches of it through my “clean” barrel. Holy cow!! I don’t think I’ve ever had anything clean copper out of a barrel like this before, especially a clean barrel. Here’s a pic of my patches. The first four are wet patches, and the next two are dry. I think I found my go to cleaning solvent.
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No i havent but i sure do like how yha dont have to fight it when i clean my gunI haven't seen any non-brass versions of these. Are you aware of any? I'd like to try them, but the brass gives false positives.
I haven't seen any non-brass versions of these. Are you aware of any? I'd like to try them, but the brass gives false positives.
I’ve been using wipeout also and my experience is the same. Works good on cooper but not carbon.I’ve been using wipe out/patch out with accelerator. I’ve been happy with the copper removing abilities but not so much with the carbon in the throat area. I’ve tried wipe outs carbon remover but that doesn’t seem to work on the carbon in the throat well.
I just ordered the Bore tech eliminator and the C4 based on the info in this thread. We’ll see if it works any better.
Boretech sells what they call their Proof Positive jags. They are supposed to NOT give any false indications. I haven't tried them, but I may order a couple and give them a try.
From thier website:
Description
Bore Tech’s innovative Proof-Positive Rifle Patch Jags eliminate the false indication of copper fouling that is common with all traditional brass jags when using copper removing cleaners.
Constructed from a proprietary alloy and engineered to provide superior cleaning, these jags set the standard for effective, non-brass, 100% barrel safe jags. Are your barrels PROOF-POSTIVE clean?
https://www.boretech.com/products/proof-positive-rifle-jag
Boretech is the shit - their copper remover and their carbon remover is the best - just soak your MB in it, carbon wipes off.
Well, ordered some eliminator, a bore tech rod, proof positive jags and brushes. Any recommendations for a bore guide?
It'd be nice if they made a kit for suppressors, if it works as well as you say. (A kit that has a tube that holds the suppressor, enough cleaner to fill the tube with the suppressor, and a way to drain off the cleaner for re-use.)
Well, ordered some eliminator, a bore tech rod, proof positive jags and brushes. Any recommendations for a bore guide?
I mean you bought all their other stuff, they got bore guides too.
Piece of PVC pipe with an end cap glued on one end is all you need. Stand it up, insert can, fill it with C4, and walk away
Bore tech’s bore guides are the best there are. They come in different sizes so that the entire guide actually fits the rod properly, not just a large universal site with a different size tip. They also offer custom collar sizes so you can get a perfect fit to any action.
I was hesitant about getting it because I tend to find universal things generally don’t work that well. But based in these recommendations I guess I’ll be ordering one up! Thanks a lot guys!
They aren’t universal though. They make 3 different sizes just in centerfire ones and each one is correctly sized to the corresponding sized rod. It’s not just a different size tip like most guides, the entire tube is to scale. They also offer custom collars so you can properly fit it to each action. There’s really nothing universal about them.
Ah got it. You don’t hear much about them compared to others. I’m going to give it a go
You won't be disappointed. I've got Possum Hollows (meh), tipton (POS), Lyman (good for the money), stoney point (decent but no longer available), and Lucas (amazing products but more $$ and they're proprietary). The only thing that compares that I've used in the Lucas, but you have to wait for them to be made, they cost more than a Bore Tech with a couple custom collars added, and they're propriatary to that action and bore.
Thanks for the feedback. I was originally going with Lucas, but was waiting on my boretech rod because he needs the diameter. Worth getting a custom collar if it’s just for a Remington 700? That’ll be nice because I preordered an Archimedes and I can use it for that also
This thread has me sold. Just filled up my cart on the Bore Tech site and making a purchase right now.
Thanks for all the feedback here
Just wish the shipping cost wasn't so brutal...
can you slip a small amount
in ultra sonic cleaner?
Still a Wipe Out Patch Out fan with nylon bristle brushes. I do an initial wet brush, 5 strokes, a patch, then another wet brush for 5 strokes, let it sit half a day, patch and re-wet w a brush, let it sit over night. Next morning a wet patch then 2 dry patches, then a light coat of synthetic ATF. All done. Bore Tech posts come up every few months for the last decade as far as what I've seen. Nothing against it.
thanksYes, there’s instructions on the bottle for use in an ultrasonic.
Yeah the shipping directly from boretech is just out of hand. You can find some on Amazon with free shipping, depending on what you are looking for. I was going to buy a couple of rods directly from boretech, but got them directly from Amazon without the $40+ shipping cost.
For all you cheap bastards like me...CLR is as good a carbon remover as any I've tried. I always clean with a few CLR patches first and finish up with WipeOut Patch Out, I've never been disappointed.