I wonder what the rank and file think about their FBI now?

[ArmyJerry]

I just wonder what the 30 year guy who put his nose to the grind stone thinks about his organization and what its been up to right now? Do they hold each other accountable? Are they proud of the subversion of our country that been carried out in their name? The teaming up with foreign agents from our oldest and most dangerous enemy (UK) to undermine the will of the people in an attempt to destroy our republic? I Hold MI5 and the UK responsible and think they should be identified and deported or arrested, they knew what their boy Steele was up to, this could be construed as a new attempt at subverting our country.

 

[500grains]

He's thinking, "How many months until I can get my pension and GTFO?"

 

[diverdon]

Either that or he is thinking that it the top is wiped out their will be plenty of opportunity to move up without having to sell out to the Clintons of the Obamas.

 

[ArmyJerry]

I hope that is the case, I have doubts though. It takes a village to perform this much criminal corruption, stonewalling, judicial manipulation, and undermining of the Constitution. I wonder how far down into the ranks you have to go to cut out the tumor?

Either that or he is thinking that it the top is wiped out their will be plenty of opportunity to move up without having to sell out to the Clintons of the Obamas.

 

[FS1]

When something exists in the Shaddows it’s hard to keep clean. When a Patriot Whistleblower is considered and treated as a squealer by leadership. Why blow the whistle?

I am hoping the Good Guys are feeling more empowered after this. If not Jerry has a point about disbanding them.

But I am hoping the Good Guys are part of exposing this. That will Help restore my faith in them. I just want the Truth.

 

[FS1]

PS I don’t want to hear that the American People don’t have the security clearance to hear the Truth.

 

[DetroitRearView]

I have “rank and file” friends that are still with FB1. They are embarrassed, disgusted and ashamed of their so called “leadership”. If this does not get squared away soon, some of them are going to pull the plug and hit some contract work.

I worked on a West Coast team with several Alphabet agencies pre and post 911. In my experience the guys on the ground doing the heavy lifting with us were/are good, honest, hard working people - ready to sacrifice everything to protect this great Country.

Step into mid and upper FB1 management - most of the ones we dealt with were pathetic, spineless political morons more concerned with their careers than ridding us of our enemies.

I shall never forget 09/11/2001. As far as I am concerned it was another “Pearl Harbor”

 

[ArmyJerry]

True, I wont forget 9/11 but we had a president at that time that came off a pile of rubble and urged america to go shopping, then proceed to fight two wars while tying the hands of our sons with insane ROE's, our government has forfeited is moral standing to demanding the population consent to their governing at every level.

I got the feeling you are correct at the street level agents, as supported by others here with the same experiences as you. I hope they dont leave, I am for dismantling the FBI but need to put something in its place and that is where they will come in.

 

[BangBangBlatBlat]

They probably sleep just fine.

The memo still doesn't change the fact that George Papodopolous blabbed to an Australian diplomat about the emails that Russian intel stole, setting off the whole investigation.

It still doesn't change the fact that Trump Jr. eagerly took a meeting with Russian agents to help further their campaign. Then tried to cover it up.

It still doesn't change the fact that Jared Kushner was trying to set up a secret back channel to Russia, and suggested using their embassy as a means to do it. The only reason for that is to avoid Western surveillance.

It still doesn't change the fact that Michael Flynn called the Russian ambasador to basically tell him that Trump would not be enforcing sanctions.

It still doesn't change the fact that Trump is still refusing to enforce bipartisan sanctions that were passed over a year ago.

It's unfortunate that Conservatives have hitched their brand to Trump. Oh well...I can't say I'm surprised.

 

[ArmyJerry]

You are a lock step idiot.

They probably sleep just fine.

The memo still doesn't change the fact that George Papodopolous blabbed to an Australian diplomat about the emails that Russian intel stole, setting off the whole investigation.

It still doesn't change the fact that Trump Jr. eagerly took a meeting with Russian agents to help further their campaign. Then tried to cover it up.



It still doesn't change the fact that Jared Kushner was trying to set up a secret back channel to Russia, and suggested using their embassy as a means to do it. The only reason for that is to avoid Western surveillance.

It still doesn't change the fact that Michael Flynn called the Russian ambasador to basically tell him that Trump would not be enforcing sanctions.

It still doesn't change the fact that Trump is still refusing to enforce bipartisan sanctions that were passed over a year ago.

It's unfortunate that Conservatives have hitched their brand to Trump. Oh well...I can't say I'm surprised.

They probably sleep just fine.

The memo still doesn't change the fact that George Papodopolous blabbed to an Australian diplomat about the emails that Russian intel stole, setting off the whole investigation.

It still doesn't change the fact that Trump Jr. eagerly took a meeting with Russian agents to help further their campaign. Then tried to cover it up.

It still doesn't change the fact that Jared Kushner was trying to set up a secret back channel to Russia, and suggested using their embassy as a means to do it. The only reason for that is to avoid Western surveillance.

It still doesn't change the fact that Michael Flynn called the Russian ambasador to basically tell him that Trump would not be enforcing sanctions.

It still doesn't change the fact that Trump is still refusing to enforce bipartisan sanctions that were passed over a year ago.

It's unfortunate that Conservatives have hitched their brand to Trump. Oh well...I can't say I'm surprised.

 

[BangBangBlatBlat]

You are a lock step idiot.

That's the best rebuttal you got?

If you don't want to be investigated, don't take meetings with Russian spies when they tell you that "this is part of the Russian governments attempt to help your fathers campaign". It's pretty simple.

Or don't get drunk and brag that you know Russia stole emails to help your politcal campaign.

Or don't launder money for Russian oligarchs and help push their agenda in Ukraine.

We've just about reached the point of "There was collusion...but you guys shouldn't have been looking."

 

[Gunfighter14e2]

Or don't launder money for Russian oligarchs and help push their agenda in Ukraine. "

I suggest you get your advice on that (among other things) from someone that is not smoking crack.

 

[...]

So far....the only " russia collusion" is that russia allegedly revealed hillarys emails........emails that proved she illegally tried to rig the election......but somehow trump is guilty?.......

Go fuck off pal

 

[308pirate]

So far....the only " russia collusion" is that russia allegedly revealed hillarys emails........emails that proved she illegally tried to rig the election......but somehow trump is guilty?.......

Go fuck off pal

+1

I wonder if bangbangblat is on Hillary's payroll

 

[ArmyJerry]

yes he is so ignore his stupid ass.

 

[BangBangBlatBlat]

So far....the only " russia collusion" is that russia allegedly revealed hillarys emails........emails that proved she illegally tried to rig the election......but somehow trump is guilty?.......

Go fuck off pal

There's definitely more to it than that.

She illegally rigged the election that she lost? That's rich.

 

[BangBangBlatBlat]

+1

I wonder if bangbangblat is on Hillary's payroll

Yep. I make 5 Sorosbucks for every post.

 

[Gunfighter14e2]

I wonder if bangbangblat is on Hillary's payroll

Just relish in the fact one day his libtrad checks won't cash, an he may have to try his hand at a real job.

 

[...]

There's definitely more to it than that.

She illegally rigged the election that she lost? That's rich.

Oh really.....what more is there?

And hence why i said "tried"......maybe stop trying to get into hillarys pants suit and brush up on your reading comprehension

 

[Gunfighter14e2]

She illegally rigged the election that she lost?

Yes! Shows her incompetence at simple things, an to think the bitch wanted to be the pres, but outed her own ass!!!

 

[Rthur]

That's the best rebuttal you got?

If you don't want to be investigated, don't take meetings with Russian spies when they tell you that "this is part of the Russian governments attempt to help your fathers campaign". It's pretty simple.

Or don't get drunk and brag that you know Russia stole emails to help your politcal campaign.

Or don't launder money for Russian oligarchs and help push their agenda in Ukraine.

We've just about reached the point of "There was collusion...but you guys shouldn't have been looking."

You obviously are emotionally invested in Trump having ties with Russia.
There wouldn't be a "Russia" investigation without the dossier.
Even Comey has been on record stating this.
BTW Steele was working with Russian spies to put this dossier together.
Russian spy- Steele- Fusion-FBI/DOJ financed by the DNC

R

 

[Rthur]

There's definitely more to it than that.

She illegally rigged the election that she lost? That's rich.

Ask Bernie...
Lol

R

 

[BangBangBlatBlat]

You obviously are emotionally invested in Trump having ties with Russia.
There wouldn't be a "Russia" investigation without the dossier.
Even Comey has been on record stating this.
BTW Steele was working with Russian spies to put this dossier together.
Russian spy- Steele- Fusion-FBI/DOJ financed by the DNC

R

Even the memo says that it was Papodopolous that provided the genesis for the investigation.

Roger Stone had prior knowledge of the hacked emails and bragged about it on infowars.

 

[ArmyJerry]

what law was broken? quid pro quo?

Even the memo says that it was Papodopolous that provided the genesis for the investigation.

Roger Stone had prior knowledge of the hacked emails and bragged about it on infowars.

 

[BangBangBlatBlat]

what law was broken? quid pro quo?

Well it was definitely broken when he lied about it to the Feds. There's a reason he took a plea deal.

Same goes for Flynn. He wouldn't have been shopping around for immunity if he wasn't worried.

There's also the whole "Trump not enforcing sanctions passed overwhelmingly by Congress" thing.

 

[Rthur]

Even the memo says that it was Papodopolous that provided the genesis for the investigation.

Roger Stone had prior knowledge of the hacked emails and bragged about it on infowars.

What is the evidence that would have lead to getting a FISA warrant without the "Dossier"?
Simple question^^^

R

 

[ArmyJerry]

what law was broken?

Well it was definitely broken when he lied about it to the Feds. There's a reason he took a plea deal.

Same goes for Flynn. He wouldn't have been shopping around for immunity if he wasn't worried.

There's also the whole "Trump not enforcing sanctions passed overwhelmingly by Congress" thing.

 

[FS1]

A drunken statement from Papadop would not be enough for FISA Court. Also Flynn and Gates are lawyering down with delayed sentencing. Have you heard anything about papadops case? He takes them places that are not Trump I bet.

 

[DetroitRearView]

True, I wont forget 9/11 but we had a president at that time that came off a pile of rubble and urged america to go shopping, then proceed to fight two wars while tying the hands of our sons with insane ROE's, our government has forfeited is moral standing to demanding the population consent to their governing at every level.

I got the feeling you are correct at the street level agents, as supported by others here with the same experiences as you. I hope they dont leave, I am for dismantling the FBI but need to put something in its place and that is where they will come in.

Right on...that would be the best case scenario. I hated the ROE’s...I had 2 sons’s and a daughter serve in the sandbox during that mess. I am thankful that they made it home. We have not fought to win since WWII. I am sick of that.

 

[Gunfighter14e2]

We have not fought to win since WWII. I am sick of that.

+100
There are millions of us tired of that shit.

 

[500grains]

I have “rank and file” friends that are still with FB1.

If they had any moral character, they would be whistleblowers. Like in the Ted Stevens case.

 

[ArmyJerry]

I think what is becoming apparent is the corruption and attack against the Republic has pretty much been contained, masterminded, coordinated and executed out of DC at the White House (Obama), Justice Dept and Langley to this very day, and that’s the good news.

I also thik we will find that there have been whistle blowers and there have been many at the FBI, we will find they have beeen silenced one way or another.

This is why I am adamant that the FBI as it exists has to be shut down, they think they are a branch of our government right this very moment, they refuse to hand over documents, so does Justice, They both probably have to be shut down. FISA courts too, and maybe the NSA.

 

[Flyingbullseye]

Army, can you translate that last post? I got about half of it, the rest was I'm guessing typed too fast.

 

[ArmyJerry]

sorry was passenger in bumpy car ride.

 

[Dewey7271]

Same goes for Flynn. He wouldn't have been shopping around for immunity if he wasn't worried.

I would imagine Flynn remembers Scooter Libby and how well that turned out.

 

[DetroitRearView]

If they had any moral character, they would be whistleblowers. Like in the Ted Stevens case.

Because most boots on the ground are actually working cases that are totally unrelated to the topic at hand and they have no knowledge to provide a basis to blow said whistle.

The friends that I know (and have known = deceased) in the business have or had the “moral character” to which you are referring.

Are there some bad cops? Firefighters? Yup...I am all for sending the corrupt LEO’s to prison; which I have personally done on more than one occasion.

I understand that this runs counter intuitive to those who believe that the majority in LEO are corrupt. Those who believe that are incorrect in that assessment.

I am fine with the “attitude” - I knew about that deal before signing up.

Carry on, “non-haters”

10-7

 

[pmclaine]

Even the memo says that it was Papodopolous that provided the genesis for the investigation.

Roger Stone had prior knowledge of the hacked emails and bragged about it on infowars.

But there would have been no hacked emails had Hillary not had an illegal server to avoid accountability to the people.....

yet that was whitewashed and never investigated by the vaunted FBI.

Not to mention that the DOJ colluded with Hillarys husband to ensure the case was whitewashed.

The whole matter circles back to Hillary yet we want to investigate Trump.

BangBang has a habit of saying "Never mind that we are talking about this".

You dont get that convenience. Its all intertwined and the evidence points to Hillary and perhaps (!) Obama rigging this shit up.

I would be just as pissed had a Conservative POL done this to a Liberal POL.

That is the shame of this the people on the other side see the elephant in the room yet they are willing to "overlook" as long as their ideology is pushed "forward".

They are not Patriots they are traitors.

 

[EddieNFL]

 

[pmclaine]

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Part of me says trolls should be ignored and left alone but the reason we are this fucked up is because for 40 years we have been suffering fools kindly and not shoving them back into the dark filthy hole they crawled from.

Had they been put in place early their crazy shit would not be so "mainstream".

No longer can we afford to just let them speak without requiring they defend their BS.

 

[pmclaine]

But there would have been no hacked emails had Hillary not had an illegal server to avoid accountability to the people.....

yet that was whitewashed and never investigated by the vaunted FBI.

Not to mention that the DOJ colluded with Hillarys husband to ensure the case was whitewashed.

The whole matter circles back to Hillary yet we want to investigate Trump.

BangBang has a habit of saying "Never mind that we are talking about this".

You dont get that convenience. Its all intertwined and the evidence points to Hillary and perhaps (!) Obama rigging this shit up.

I would be just as pissed had a Conservative POL done this to a Liberal POL.

That is the shame of this the people on the other side see the elephant in the room yet they are willing to "overlook" as long as their ideology is pushed "forward".

They are not Patriots they are traitors.

BangBang Blat.....

Just to comment further on this.

Had Hillary been properly investigated what do you think the outcome would have been?

A Trump victory against Bernie Sanders?

I doubt it.

I think Bernie would have beaten Trump. There are hordes of people that will trade "freedom" for "free shit".

The Democrat/Socialists fucked themselves by betting all on black and backing Hillary.

Had they investigated her she would likely have been denied her chance at the Presidency and the left would be doing quite well with destroying America under a Sanders presidency.

Too smart by half and they have gone off the deep end because they have looked in the mirror and realized the enemy is themselves.

 

[Gunfighter14e2]

BangBang Blat.....Too smart by half and they have gone off the deep end because they have looked in the mirror and realized the enemy is themselves.

The old adage about giving them enough rope comes to mind. This is why I quit being civil to them (an others), all the while we were being civil, they considered that a weakness an doubled down. Now that we are starting to stand up they don't seem to know how to handle it except doing plants like some on this board. Hoping to turn us against each other, like they have for the past 60 years or so. Well the thought police can eat shit as far as I'm concerned, I'll die but once.

 

[Threadcutter308]

What is the evidence that would have lead to getting a FISA warrant without the "Dossier"?
Simple question^^^

R

You ever notice than when you ask simple questions of trolls, they mysteriously go silent for 24 hours at a minimum ? I always wonder what people like that think they will accomplish by coming here (?). I for one, could give a rat's ass about his opinion. But then, I have been going back for refills in the "groupthink" Kool-aid line for years......Guess my opinion doesn't count

If you haven't seen the latest, this one is worth checking out;

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/201...d-nunes-house-intel-didnt-stop-investigation/

 

[Rthur]

You ever notice than when you ask simple questions of trolls, they mysteriously go silent for 24 hours at a minimum ? I always wonder what people like that think they will accomplish by coming here (?). I for one, could give a rat's ass about his opinion. But then, I have been going back for refills in the "groupthink" Kool-aid line for years......Guess my opinion doesn't count

If you haven't seen the latest, this one is worth checking out;

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/201...d-nunes-house-intel-didnt-stop-investigation/

I call that the google respite, a mad search for any rebuttal with marginal relevance.

R

 

[ArmyJerry]

this is the tip of the iceberg, sessions has got to go.

You ever notice than when you ask simple questions of trolls, they mysteriously go silent for 24 hours at a minimum ? I always wonder what people like that think they will accomplish by coming here (?). I for one, could give a rat's ass about his opinion. But then, I have been going back for refills in the "groupthink" Kool-aid line for years......Guess my opinion doesn't count

If you haven't seen the latest, this one is worth checking out;

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/201...d-nunes-house-intel-didnt-stop-investigation/

 

[pmclaine]

You ever notice than when you ask simple questions of trolls, they mysteriously go silent for 24 hours at a minimum ? I always wonder what people like that think they will accomplish by coming here (?). I for one, could give a rat's ass about his opinion. But then, I have been going back for refills in the "groupthink" Kool-aid line for years......Guess my opinion doesn't count

If you haven't seen the latest, this one is worth checking out;

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/201...d-nunes-house-intel-didnt-stop-investigation/

It was reported a week or so ago that Rosenstein and Wray went to the Speaker of the House and told him to shut the invest down.

In a rare showing that he has two different chromosomes Ryan told them to pound sand.

Sounds like Rosenstein and Wray are obstructing justice.

 

[Graywolf.260]

Why does the idea that if Hillary is fucked up then Trump must be fine carry so much water?

 

[pmclaine]

Why does the idea that if Hillary is fucked up then Trump must be fine carry so much water?

It doesnt.

If Trump is fucked up than Trump should be investigated.

But we are supposed to have a blind justice system. It is obvious that our justice system only investigates one side of the political spectrum and gives the other a pass.

That is one issue.

The other issue is that it appears that Hillary did fuck up and despite even being given a pass by the new administration going quietly into the night was not her (or someone else's) intention.

They have chosen to nullify an election that though set to work against the winning candidate, still chose the winning candidate in accordance with the will of the people.

How does the fruit of the poisonous tree now get used against the new candidate when the person that poisoned the tree was given a pass?

If you cant see the problem with this......

 

[al22300]

It doesnt.

If Trump is fucked up than Trump should be investigated.

But we are supposed to have a blind justice system. It is obvious that our justice system only investigates one side of the political spectrum and gives the other a pass.

That is one issue.

The other issue is that it appears that Hillary did fuck up and despite even being given a pass by the new administration going quietly into the night was not her (or someone else's) intention.

They have chosen to nullify an election that though set to work against the winning candidate, still chose the winning candidate in accordance with the will of the people.

How does the fruit of the poisonous tree now get used against the new candidate when the person that poisoned the tree was given a pass?

If you cant see the problem with this......

Exactly right

 

[Threadcutter308]

It was reported a week or so ago that Rosenstein and Wray went to the Speaker of the House and told him to shut the invest down.

In a rare showing that he has two different chromosomes Ryan told them to pound sand.

Sounds like Rosenstein and Wray are obstructing justice.

Ryan? cajones?
I thought those were mutually exclusive terms. I’m (temporarily) impressed.

Hopefully, we’ll be hearing of Rosenstein’s resignation in the next week or two. I don’t think Trump will whack him. Too much fun watching him roast himself on the spit. I’m looking foreward to seeing Comey, McCabe and Rosenstein pushing each other out of line to rat each other out.

 

[Alphatreedog]

They probably sleep just fine.

The memo still doesn't change the fact that George Papodopolous blabbed to an Australian diplomat about the emails that Russian intel stole, setting off the whole investigation.

It still doesn't change the fact that Trump Jr. eagerly took a meeting with Russian agents to help further their campaign. Then tried to cover it up.

It still doesn't change the fact that Jared Kushner was trying to set up a secret back channel to Russia, and suggested using their embassy as a means to do it. The only reason for that is to avoid Western surveillance.

It still doesn't change the fact that Michael Flynn called the Russian ambasador to basically tell him that Trump would not be enforcing sanctions.

It still doesn't change the fact that Trump is still refusing to enforce bipartisan sanctions that were passed over a year ago.

It's unfortunate that Conservatives have hitched their brand to Trump. Oh well...I can't say I'm surprised.

Thanks for coming right out and choosing sides . Remeber your choices should the piper come a callin .