OK I bought an 8lb keg of the powder and went to the range to see how it does. Well it was at least 100 degrees when I was testing. I am using an Ar-15 A4 service rifle. Krieger 1-7.7 long throat 20in barrel. I started off at 23.0 gr. with the 77smk and mag. length OAL. The groups started off quite good but quickly tapered down to under 1/2in. @ 100yds. I moved to the 80gr. SMK for my 600yd.load. I loaded them to 2.500 COAL. and did not fair too well. I then moved to 300yds. and moved the projo back to 2.350. Well that is the cat's meow right there. @ 300 they just fell right in to a nice 1/4 in group. I had 2 rds in just about the same hole. I think I have found the powder for my rifle. I ended up with 24.0gr. with the 77SMK and 24.2gr. with the 80gr.SMK. Also used the Wolf SR Mag. primers. I would load a bit less and work up. Next comes my Dual Ogive .30 cal and the Badger M2008 !!