Photos IMR Trail Boss Corrosion Test (start)

[ZincChloride]

I'm testing corrosion that Trail Boss causes on some steel nails.

Sorry about that... What I'm doing is putting steel nails into 2 jars. I burned a good bit of the trailboss in one by pouring it in and lighting it with lit paper and then added 0.5 mL of tap water to both. I'm judging the difference in corrosion of the 2 in about a week.

 

[Captain Moroni]

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explain

 

[waynea96]

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My guess is to check for possible corrosion of a suppressor.

 

[Chiller]

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subsonics?

 

[Captain Moroni]

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how are you going about it? pouring it on the nails and lighting it on fire?

 

[magman687]

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i think he is the one that had the post about light rust in his chamber and bore after using this powder so i think he is testing it just to see if that is what made his chamber/bore rust.

 

[madd0c]

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I sure hope that mason jar on the left is NOT full of nails and Trail Boss. That looks like an accident waiting to happen. BE CAREFUL PLEASE!

madd0c

 

[maccrazy2]

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I disagree, live fast and take chances!

 

[darkstar]

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Nails in a glass jar with some burned powder and water is not a reproduction of the conditions that may have set off his corrosion problem.

Any results will you get from this will be inconclusive.

 

[jawa]

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You should have used some sort of control group as well to be able to verify your conclusion after the test. Like you should use similar steel to that of your barrel, not use water, and leave the lid off to simulate similar conditions to that of your initial problem. Just my .02

 

[Powder_Burns]

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I'd like to see another jar with a different type of powder, as a sort of control. This could have been conducted with more scientific consideration to test your hypothesis.

 

[LngRngShtr]

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I would think the SASS or Cowboy action shooters would be all over this if it is a problem,.. they love Trail Boss

I believe it was made for them due to case volume with the light loads they use
Perhaps a trip to one of their forums would help to see if it is the powder causing the corrosion ?

John

 

[burnsome]

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in for the results....

after using TB subsonic loads in my 308 AAC (suppressed) a couple of months ago, i unfortunately did not clean the rifle until the next outing about 3 weeks later. the barrel crown was eaten up pretty bad. can verify because i borescoped the bore before shooting and after, and the metal looked like the moon-scape. havent looked inside the suppressor but will now that the crown of the barrel was eaten up pretty bad, however, the borescope makes small pits looks like large craters so perhaps its not that big of a deal. gun is at my smith right now getting the crown redone, but i'll be dammed sure to clean if after shooting subsonic loads with trail boss from now on.

ETA-should mention my AAC rifle has experience A LOT of exterior corrosion showing up on the barrel since new and maybe this barrel is just prone to corrosion. not sure yet, but regular oiling has not kept it from coming back even while it sits in the safe with all its happy friends. just switched to LPS-3 which has a lot more corrosion inhibitors than regular oils so that should help, but will probably duracoat it soon to avoid the additional hassles experienced to date. none of my other guns rust like this AAC does, so perhaps i got a lemon of sorts. time will tell.

 

[RollingThunder51]

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Whew boy...

Where to begin on this one.....

I spoke to one of the three people that designed this powder at length on all subjects like this. Net, net? There is nothing about Trail Boss that is any way causing an accelerated corrosion problem. The only thing that TB has is LESS...less of everything...but most importantly less actual powder in a larger volume. The powder has expressly made for people shooting low pressure antique firearms at first. These were see as valuable firearms and the market would not tolerate anything that was additionally corrosive. The breakthrough was forming a much larger particulate out of much less powder.

Now, since the question of some rifles being particularly prone to rust. This 700 should help answer that question, the quote is as written, edited for privacy. No Trail Boss used here, he made the mistake of taking the rifle outside.

Click on the link as one cannot direct post in the Galleries.

"I received this firearm from xxxxxx on 11/16/2011, it was still new in the box. On 11/18 I took it to xxxx gun shop to get the scope mounted on it. Monday 11/21 I took this firearm to the range to sight in. I was very pleased with how well it shot. I had about an inch group at 200 yards. The gun was rust free when we left the range. Then that evening we took this firearm into the field, there was a heavy damp fog in the air. After 6 hours of riding around this is what the firearm looked like. I took the pictures and then thoroughly cleaned it as soon as I got home. I did not remember to take a picture of the inside of receiver, but it looked the same as the rest of the firearm. "

 

[HPLLC]

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Black powder is very corrosive from what I understand and is the alternative no?

 

[RollingThunder51]

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Yes, BP is corrosive. But it takes time.

 

[GRIM]

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Gee - I remember posting something very similar about this very thing a while back... this happened to me when shooting subsonics and using Trailboss too. I switched to Titegroup - no problems like this now.
http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t84/Jetvourax/CIMG2407.jpg
http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t84/Jetvourax/CIMG2408.jpg

 

[RollingThunder51]

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Yes, and that is not corrosion and, if I remember correctly, those impacts occurred with HV rounds directly post TB. Also, if I remember correctly your can is a very high pressure first stage. Correct?

 

[Jthompson]

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Disappointed, I seen the jars and thought this was a moonshine thread

 

[eihcir6002]

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