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Is something going on in Ukraine?

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My Ukraine timeline:

Day 1 - Oh shit, the Russians invaded Ukraine

Days 2 & 3 - Trying to find videos that aren't fucking fake, or from a video game. Seems to be a gigantic lack of anything.

Day 4 - Wow, Ukraine is fighting back and isn't caving. Good for them. Kill some communists. Still looking for LiveLeak type shit. Nothing.

Day 6 - This is my total lack of surprise at the world's realization that the EU is a bunch of euroweenie faggots (this was around the time when Potato got on TV and was all like, we want to do sanctions but not too bad of sanctions because the EU asked us not to)

Day 10 - Wait, yeah, no, we're not fucking getting involved with this shit. So stop fucking asking Ukraine. Bunch of human trafficking money laundering whiny ass bitches.

Day 14 - I believe absolutely zero point zero of anything being reported and/or allegedly coming out of Ukraine or Russia about basically anything.

Day 20 - Ukraine flags start going up on houses in the US. I realize this is an indicator that you are retarded and 'support the current thing.'

Day 30 - I just do not give a fuck as to what is happening with Russia and Ukraine. They're still killing each other? Oh no, anyways.

Today - The only news from Ukraine I care about is if the gas prices are coming back down.
Ehhh if you think gas prices went up because of Ukraine you might want to stop throwing stones
 
My Ukraine timeline:

Day 1 - Oh shit, the Russians invaded Ukraine

Days 2 & 3 - Trying to find videos that aren't fucking fake, or from a video game. Seems to be a gigantic lack of anything.

Day 4 - Wow, Ukraine is fighting back and isn't caving. Good for them. Kill some communists. Still looking for LiveLeak type shit. Nothing.

Day 6 - This is my total lack of surprise at the world's realization that the EU is a bunch of euroweenie faggots (this was around the time when Potato got on TV and was all like, we want to do sanctions but not too bad of sanctions because the EU asked us not to)

Day 10 - Wait, yeah, no, we're not fucking getting involved with this shit. So stop fucking asking Ukraine. Bunch of human trafficking money laundering whiny ass bitches.

Day 14 - I believe absolutely zero point zero of anything being reported and/or allegedly coming out of Ukraine or Russia about basically anything.

Day 20 - Ukraine flags start going up on houses in the US. I realize this is an indicator that you are retarded and 'support the current thing.'

Day 30 - I just do not give a fuck as to what is happening with Russia and Ukraine. They're still killing each other? Oh no, anyways.

Today - The only news from Ukraine I care about is if the gas prices are coming back down.
You missed several key days where Potato head cut billions of dollars in "aid" to Ukraine.. Hunter smiling big at all the cocaine he will buy with the millions in additional kickbacks.
And, additional weapons sent to fight the *bad guys".
 
They're talking about declaring war against Ukraine so they can send in a whole bunch more troops.
I'm not getting what yer saying. Russia doesn't have the resources that the Warsaw Pact had back "in the day"...Poland is gone as are most of the other elements of the "Soviet Union". Russia alone has a GDP of like 1.5 trillion USD - way behind Brazil, Canada and even Italy. And it's shrinking. Russia simply does not have the financial resources to get into a prolonged land war in Ukraine. Russia cannot sustain this level of expenditure in terms of money and military resources.

They'll have to end this quickly/soon or they will be ground to a halt with inability to resupply . They cannot prevail against NATO in terms of money nor arms nor technology. They need (Putin needs) to end this soon and concisely and the only major cards in their hand are nuclear. They aren't gonna start a Global Thermal Nuclear confrontation because no one, even in Russia, believes that it will not be "End Game" for all involved. But tossing a tactical nuke at a major Ukrainian city will not likely bring a full out nuclear response from The West that no one can win.

Russia doesn't have more troops - more kids that can be pressed into action in 6 months as cannon fodder they can recruit. The Modern part of the Russian Military is small. The Big part of the Russian Military is not Modern - they are not The USSR anymore. Shit, Ukraine *built* the Moskva for Russia and it was the flagship of the Black Sea Fleet and it's now a submarine. They can't replace it - the folks making USSR Great are now opposing Russia.

Putin needs to end this soon. Watch for some serious shit in the next couple weeks.

VooDoo
 
Ehhh if you think gas prices went up because of Ukraine you might want to stop throwing stones
You fail at reading between the lines as well as reading the actual post that I wrote on this very subject, in this very thread, about how Russian oil imports are some small dumb amount.

The 'let me know about the gas prices' thing was twofold:

1) That's how much I care about Ukraine.

2) It actually is a small amount. Yet, the Potato has been trying to pin the war/Russia to gas prices since the beginning. So again, read between the lines, I care when Ukraine/Russia thing is lowering gas prices. See how that works?
 
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My Ukraine timeline:

Day 1 - Oh shit, the Russians invaded Ukraine

Days 2 & 3 - Trying to find videos that aren't fucking fake, or from a video game. Seems to be a gigantic lack of anything.

Day 4 - Wow, Ukraine is fighting back and isn't caving. Good for them. Kill some communists. Still looking for LiveLeak type shit. Nothing.

Day 6 - This is my total lack of surprise at the world's realization that the EU is a bunch of euroweenie faggots (this was around the time when Potato got on TV and was all like, we want to do sanctions but not too bad of sanctions because the EU asked us not to)

Day 10 - Wait, yeah, no, we're not fucking getting involved with this shit. So stop fucking asking Ukraine. Bunch of human trafficking money laundering whiny ass bitches.

Day 14 - I believe absolutely zero point zero of anything being reported and/or allegedly coming out of Ukraine or Russia about basically anything.

Day 20 - Ukraine flags start going up on houses in the US. I realize this is an indicator that you are retarded and 'support the current thing.'

Day 30 - I just do not give a fuck as to what is happening with Russia and Ukraine. They're still killing each other? Oh no, anyways.

Today - The only news from Ukraine I care about is if the gas prices are coming back down.
You might be able to find a cheap generator, does Ukraine have a version of ebay?
 
I'm not getting what yer saying. Russia doesn't have the resources that the Warsaw Pact had back "in the day"...Poland is gone as are most of the other elements of the "Soviet Union". Russia alone has a GDP of like 1.5 trillion USD - way behind Brazil, Canada and even Italy. And it's shrinking. Russia simply does not have the financial resources to get into a prolonged land war in Ukraine. Russia cannot sustain this level of expenditure in terms of money and military resources.

They'll have to end this quickly/soon or they will be ground to a halt with inability to resupply . They cannot prevail against NATO in terms of money nor arms nor technology. They need (Putin needs) to end this soon and concisely and the only major cards in their hand are nuclear. They aren't gonna start a Global Thermal Nuclear confrontation because no one, even in Russia, believes that it will not be "End Game" for all involved. But tossing a tactical nuke at a major Ukrainian city will not likely bring a full out nuclear response from The West that no one can win.

Russia doesn't have more troops - more kids that can be pressed into action in 6 months as cannon fodder they can recruit. The Modern part of the Russian Military is small. The Big part of the Russian Military is not Modern - they are not The USSR anymore. Shit, Ukraine *built* the Moskva for Russia and it was the flagship of the Black Sea Fleet and it's now a submarine. They can't replace it - the folks making USSR Great are now opposing Russia.

Putin needs to end this soon. Watch for some serious shit in the next couple weeks.

VooDoo

Russia has approx 1-million active and 2 million reserve troops. What do you mean, they don't have the troops?
Putin hasn't sent them in yet. He will send them or he'll just carpet bomb the country and call it a day.
troops by country

Edit - Just found this
Carpet bombing
russia carpet bombing
From the article
It’s possible the Russians are running out of cruise missiles and, in order to keep up the pressure on Mariupol’s defenders, have no choice but to drop bombs​
LOL, no, russia just wants to flatten the city, and this is the easiest way to do it.
 
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Russia has approx 1-million active and 2 million reserve troops. What do you mean, they don't have the troops?
Putin hasn't sent them in yet. He will send them or he'll just carpet bomb the country and call it a day.
troops by country

Edit - Just found this
Carpet bombing
russia carpet bombing
From the article
It’s possible the Russians are running out of cruise missiles and, in order to keep up the pressure on Mariupol’s defenders, have no choice but to drop bombs​
LOL, no, russia just wants to flatten the city, and this is the easiest way to do it.
they used a long range bomber for the first time, but still used cruise missiles (or that is what i saw reported).
i think it sends a message because the media has been saying bombs since the war started.
people might figure out now that putin has been holding back and not bombing cities.
 
As I mentioned on page ... 3 or 4...... Putin's going to level every fk'n city in Ukraine. aka Genocide, but he'll call it, stopping the resistance.
When Putin pulls back, he'll have everything that he wanted. Ukraine is willing to fight, the world should give them the weapons.
I still believe Ukraine should have their nukes returned. Ukraine can go, oops, we found 5, now pull the fuk out.
edit - I hope I'm wrong.
I still think they still should give Ukraine back it's nuclear weapons.
 
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As I mentioned on page ... 3 or 4...... Putin's going to level every fk'n city in Ukraine. aka Genocide, but he'll call it, stopping the resistance.
When Putin pulls back, he'll have everything that he wanted. Ukraine is willing to fight, the world should give them the weapons.
I still believe Ukraine should have their nukes returned. Ukraine can go, oops, we found 5, now pull the fuk out.
edit - I hope I'm wrong.
I still think they still should give Ukraine back it's nuclear weapons.
Bill Kristol ... is that you ?
I bet you also think that getting rid of Gaddafi and Hussein helped stabilized the region.
 
I'm thinking Putin's "unpredictable consequences" might be a tactical nuke on Mariupol or Kiev....just enough destruction to assure surrender. Russia can't keep doing what they are doing much longer without a conclusion.

VooDoo
Considering 98% of the people that live in that city voted to join the Russian Federation as part of the DPR in 2015...I don't think so. Putin has already pledged to rebuild the city... which indicates it will not be a part of Ukraine in the future.
 
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As I mentioned on page ... 3 or 4...... Putin's going to level every fk'n city in Ukraine. aka Genocide, but he'll call it, stopping the resistance.
When Putin pulls back, he'll have everything that he wanted. Ukraine is willing to fight, the world should give them the weapons.
I still believe Ukraine should have their nukes returned. Ukraine can go, oops, we found 5, now pull the fuk out.
edit - I hope I'm wrong.
I still think they still should give Ukraine back it's nuclear weapons.
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Hillary that you?
Where in my post, do I call for regime change? Your words, not mine.
When you supported the coup in 2014.

You are aware this war started because of a western backed regime change right?

You do realize you are supporting regime change???
 
Driving through some “Tony” neighborhoods this AM…….yards have replaced BLM signs with Ukrainian flag signs…….none of these yards have any concern their kids will end up there
Always good to see what's going on "on the other side of the tracks".... Still seeing a few "Thank you Dr. Fauci " yard signs near the Rocky Mountain Lab... Same mind set for these people... Want to be first in line to give their kid the next round of shots.
 
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Always good to see what's going on "on the other side of the tracks".... Still seeing a few "Thank you Dr. Fauci " yard signs near the Rocky Mountain Lab... Same mind set for these people... Want to be first in line to give their kid the next round of shots.

I still see "McCain for President" stickers here in Arizona.
 
Russia has approx 1-million active and 2 million reserve troops. What do you mean, they don't have the troops?
Putin hasn't sent them in yet. He will send them or he'll just carpet bomb the country and call it a day.
troops by country

Edit - Just found this
Carpet bombing
russia carpet bombing
From the article
It’s possible the Russians are running out of cruise missiles and, in order to keep up the pressure on Mariupol’s defenders, have no choice but to drop bombs​
LOL, no, russia just wants to flatten the city, and this is the easiest way to do it.

At present Ukrainian forces outnumber Russian forces in Ukraine many times over possibly more than 5:1, while they started at roughly 1:1 , general mobilization in a month means they likely have more than a million men under arms right now greatly outnumbering Russian forces in Ukraine. But things are not quite as simple as numbers on the books . Much of the Ukrainian forces can't be brought to bear as they cant freely maneuver.
As for carpet bombing in Azovstal, its a huge target. While it might not be as accurate as a laser-guided bomb but more HE makes up for it. Especially when targets are somewhere inside a factory that is hundreds of meters long


War is expensive Ukraine was broke before the war and is burning through western pocketbooks and arsenals, rumored at over a billion+$ per day
At present NATO Europe is just about depleted in terms of gear it can supply without denting its own already limited capability unless the US replaces all former east block gear to be supplied, you do understand that NATO allies are not supplying stuff for free, some of it is being paid for with EU funds but most stuff is paid by US taxpayer, the mechanism is somewhat opaque but US is replacing supplied obsolete soviet gear with US gear either out of US stocks or new manufacture,so eastern EU countries are quite happy to ditch some 40-60y old armor and even aircraft as long as they get new gear for it. How the mechanism works in detail is anyone's guess does Poland get an M1 for every T72 it supplies?

''America is following an “arsenal of democracy” strategy in Ukraine: It has avoided direct intervention against the Russian invaders, while working with allies and partners to provide the Kyiv government with money and guns.
Yet as the war reaches a critical stage, with the Russians preparing to consolidate their grip on eastern Ukraine, the ''arsenal of democracy'' is being depleted.That could cause a fatal shortfall for Ukrainian forces in this conflict, and it is revealing American weaknesses that could be laid bare in the next great-power fight.
This is presenting Western countries with a stark choice between pouring more supplies into Ukraine or husbanding finite capabilities they may need for their own defense.
Germany has declined to transfer tanks to Ukraine on grounds that it simply cannot spare them. Canada quickly ran short on rocket launchers and other equipment that the Ukrainians desperately need. The U.S. has provided one-third of its overall stockpile of Javelin anti-tank missiles. It cannot easily deliver more without leaving its own armories badly depleted — and it may take months or years to significantly ramp up production.''
 
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As a child, growing up in the South, there were many one or two line sayings that proved to be true as I grew old.
Here is one that was heard when there was a big family gathering and my cousins were just kids having fun:
"It's all fun and games until someone gets poked in the eye with a sharp stick".........

Fast forward to the Ukraine situation today. Lots of players, lots of sharp sticks. Buckle up, it will get a lot worse.
 
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A sobering thought. Anyone care to venture a guess as to who will be sending money to Ukraine to avoid the default ?
Ukraine's budget deficit in next months could reach $5 billion - Shmyhal

 
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A sobering thought. Anyone care to venture a guess as to who will be sending money to Ukraine to avoid the default ?
Ukraine's budget deficit in next months could reach $5 billion - Shmyhal

zelensky says he wants/needs $7 billion a month, indefinitely.
 
A sobering thought. Anyone care to venture a guess as to who will be sending money to Ukraine to avoid the default ?
Ukraine's budget deficit in next months could reach $5 billion - Shmyhal

One group of crooks will be sending money to the other group of crooks, so that the money can be shared between all crooks.
Standard operating procedure in ukraine, it's been done there on a huge scale even before the war started...
 
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