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Still trying to wrap my head around how that tank rolled up on a group of people, who basically ignored its approach.
if you listen to the guy filming the video, he was all smug and arrogant making comments about what he assumed was their guys returning with war booty - the Russian tank. So when the tank gets to the point where it sees the blue armbands, it fires the shot and you can hear the the guy going on a truly profound rant of profanity, saying basically 'fuck, the tank IS the Russians.'
 
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I'm the bearded lady. What are you, one of the freaks???
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counterpoint to the MSM infowarrior's points:

 
if you listen to the guy filming the video, he was all smug and arrogant making comments about what he assumed was their guys returning with war booty - the Russian tank. So when the tank gets to the point where it sees the blue armbands, it fires the shot and you can hear the the guy going on a truly profound rant of profanity, saying basically 'fuck, the tank IS the Russians.'
The voice was overdubbed later, Og version of the video his voice was not present.
 
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1) Starting to appear that we are in direct conflict with Russia.
2) Who is paying for all of these arms ?
3) Refer to #1.... If American taxpayer money is buying weapons to use against Russia (regardless of who is pulling the triggers) then "We The People" are in a war.
JMHO
Yes it's a proxy war against Russia , the goal is to drag it out as long as possible, Ukrainians are the ''Expendables'' , cannon fodder in the purest form.
In any case if you look at the Breedlove e-mails , the pentagon was itching for such war already in 2014 https://theintercept.com/2016/07/01/nato-general-emails/

 
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Jimmy Dore with former weapon inspector, USMC Scott Ritter about the false flag in Bucha

He makes a pretty compelling argument about the state of the bodies.


Gimme a fucking break.

Russians did that stuff in Chechnya/Georgia etc odds are they did it here too. It also happened regularly in Kosovo and any other war.

But but but some random fuckstick on Twitter said it is fake lmao.
 
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Gimme a fucking break.

Russians did that stuff in Chechnya/Georgia etc odds are they did it here too. It also happened regularly in Kosovo and any other war.

But but but some random fuckstick on Twitter said it is fake lmao.
''Random fuckstick on Twitter'' or MSM shill not much difference in credibilty.

It happens in most wars .

But there is as much or more circumstantial evidence this was the work of Ukrainians as there is that it was the Russians. But of course, anything going against the narrative hardly makes it into MSM

The zeal with which Ukrainians have been looking for saboteurs and collaborators has resulted is a considerable number of civilan and military deaths ,you can find tons of videos..

And one thing that gets you killed in a warzone faster than just about anything is being suspected collaborator and the fact that Azov folks were first on the scene,it wouldn't be to far fetched they did some cleansing of 'saboteurs and accomplices'


-March 31, the mayor of Bucha, Anatoly Fedoruk, posted a video declaring with a happy smile on his face that “March 31 will go down in the history of our settlement and the entire territorial community as the day of liberation from Russian occupiers of our settlements, by our Armed Forces of Ukraine.”
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-The New York Times reported that between April 1 and 2, remnants of the Azov battalion, entered the city of Bucha.
- April 2, the Ukrainian police published a news report on Bucha. There were no claims of a massacre or of corpses.
- April 3, the shit show about the massacre airs on MSM four days after the Russian Military had left Bucha.
- Satellite images, published by The New York Times, purportedly show bodies strewn on a street on 19th March

Ukrainian National police post April1st
'''Special forces have begun a clearing operation in the city of Bucha in the Kyiv region, which has been liberated by the Armed Forces of Ukraine. The city is being cleared from saboteurs and accomplices of Russian forces.’''

Most of the bodies in the video had white bands that are used by Russians, you can imagine that for shot first ask questions later types its all you need. How many days in does skin retain the tone?
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The guy that crosses the view in the vid and is on coms is literally asking if he can shoot the folks without blue armbands and gets affirmative.
 
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''Random fuckstick on Twitter'' or MSM shill not much difference in credibilty.

It happens in most wars .

But there is as much or more circumstantial evidence this was the work of Ukrainians as there is that it was the Russians. But of course, anything going against the narrative hardly makes it into MSM

The zeal with which Ukrainians have been looking for saboteurs and collaborators has resulted is a considerable number of civilan and military deaths ,you can find tons of videos..

And one thing that gets you killed in a warzone faster than just about anything is being suspected collaborator and the fact that Azov folks were first on the scene,it wouldn't be to far fetched they did some cleansing of 'saboteurs and accomplices'


-March 31, the mayor of Bucha, Anatoly Fedoruk, posted a video declaring with a happy smile on his face that “March 31 will go down in the history of our settlement and the entire territorial community as the day of liberation from Russian occupiers of our settlements, by our Armed Forces of Ukraine.”
Fedoruk-Facebook-Video-350x197.png


-The New York Times reported that between April 1 and 2, remnants of the Azov battalion, entered the city of Bucha.
- April 2, the Ukrainian police published a news report on Bucha. There were no claims of a massacre or of corpses.
- April 3, the shit show about the massacre airs on MSM four days after the Russian Military had left Bucha.
- Satellite images, published by The New York Times, purportedly show bodies strewn on a street on 19th March

Ukrainian National police post April1st
'''Special forces have begun a clearing operation in the city of Bucha in the Kyiv region, which has been liberated by the Armed Forces of Ukraine. The city is being cleared from saboteurs and accomplices of Russian forces.’''

Most of the bodies in the video had white bands that are used by Russians, you can imagine that for shot first ask questions later types its all you need. How many days in does skin retain the tone?
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The guy that crosses the view in the vid and is on coms is literally asking if he can shoot the folks without blue armbands and gets affirmative.

thanks. pointed this out before too. mayor said nothing of the bodies until day later when ukes has come in already.
 
4/13/2022: Field reports coming in the Neptune missile systems have finally reached the SE coastal zone. Reports that the first ship "cherry picked" and just struck is the 600 ft long Moscova, Flag Ship of the Black Sea fleet, 512 sailors on board; first reports of "on fire and tactical flooding"; other reports it has sunk. Interesting. Possible double tap on the rescuing ships??
 
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4/13/2022: Field reports coming in the Neptune missile systems have finally reached the SE coastal zone. Reports that the first ship "cherry picked" and just struck is the 600 ft long Moscova, Flag Ship of the Black Sea fleet, 512 sailors on board; first reports of "on fire and tactical flooding"; other reports it has sunk. Interesting. Possible double tap on the rescuing ships??

Maybe, but I bet the retaliation is going to leave a mark.
 
Ho Lee Fuk, Two Neptunes! They are LARGE.

If this is true (not yet verified), it's quite a coup. And for sure, payback will be a bitch.

She is/was a real beauty!:

 
The ship on the pict Ukrainians have been posting looks like that Iranian ship that burned down. But we will see in a couple of days if it pans out ,

One previous claim 10 days ago





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That is a picture of the Kharg, the Iranian ship sunk by “friendly fire”.
That figures. Someone told me once as soon as you think you got it figured out...Your wrong. That's why I think is why I like parachuting so much. Out the door, feet together, tucked...,four seconds. Got a canopy or not. No bullshit. Don't have to think is it's real. Is or it ain't
 
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That figures. Someone told me once as soon as you think you got it figured out...Your wrong. That's why I think is why I like parachuting so much. Out the door, feet together, tucked...,four seconds. Got a canopy or not. No bullshit. Don't have to think is it's real. Is or it ain't

Was it this guy?

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I've never seen that movie . Not a big Mark Walberg fan but I'm sure he loves his Kids. My guy was 50 years ago on another Continent. God bless Him, He is no longer with us, He taught me how to be a soldier and I truly believe I'm here today because of him. Seems someone involved in that movie knew something.
 
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French Gendarme in Ukraine to investigate Bucha

A group of gendarmes for the "investigation of war crimes" arrived in Ukraine. French Ambassador to Kyiv Etienne de Ponsin wrote about this on his Twitter
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The Moskvo is now apparently gone. Morris code message sent out at 1:05 AM. Capsized, to the port side, after explosions fires and loss of power, in 10 foot waves, foggy with 45 degree water, sunk while messaging. 512 souls.

Russ ships patrolling in its last known location in heavy seas.

Unknown why the ship's (similar to US Phalanx-type) defense systems didn't destroy incoming Neptunes.

Russia press now confirms fire was on board but blames ammo accident, and all claims crew evacuated. Sure...

Poor design to leave all your missiles on deck, not in hardened areas below decks. Recipe for disaster.


Russian Defense Ministry release stating:

"The 12,500 tonne ship has a crew of around 500. Russian news agencies said the Moskva was armed with 16 anti-ship "Vulkan" cruise missiles, which have a range of at least 700 km (440 miles)."

"As the result of a fire on the Moskva missile cruiser, ammunition detonated. The ship was seriously damaged," the Russian Defense Ministry said in a statement. "The crew was completely evacuated."

Interfax did not give more details.
 
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The Moskvo is now apparently gone. Morris code message sent out at 1:05 AM. Capsized, to the port side, after explosions fires and loss of power, in 10 foot waves, foggy with 45 degree water, sunk while messaging. 512 souls.

Russ ships patrolling in its last known location in heavy seas.

Unknown why the ship's (similar to US Phalanx-type) defense systems didn't destroy incoming Neptunes.

Russia press now confirms fire was on board but blames ammo accident, and all claims crew evacuated. Sure...

Poor design to leave all your missiles on deck, not in hardened areas below decks. Recipe for disaster.


Russian Defense Ministry release stating:

"The 12,500 tonne ship has a crew of around 500. Russian news agencies said the Moskva was armed with 16 anti-ship "Vulkan" cruise missiles, which have a range of at least 700 km (440 miles)."

"As the result of a fire on the Moskva missile cruiser, ammunition detonated. The ship was seriously damaged," the Russian Defense Ministry said in a statement. "The crew was completely evacuated."

Interfax did not give more details.

This is probably true, ' Moskva missile cruiser, ammunition detonate'
but the Russians left out the fact that the detonation was caused by anti-ship missiles.
 
Man the Moskva was formerly the Slava.

I was on board the Belknap when it was anchored near the Salva for the Bush/Gorbachev talks in Malta.

That was an old boat.
Interesting, it must have been renamed later as an honor to the City of Moscow (?).

Apparently, one of the important functions of the ship was also to provide air defense/no fly zone to the entire area. It supposedly carried, in addition to the 16 cruise missiles, 64 of the S-300s. Without that air cover now (if ship is gone), who know what else might shake out in the area.

US Naval Institute press release on this, it talks about it being one of the three Slava class ships built:


"Developed in the 1970s, the Slavas and the Sandboxes were designed to take on U.S. and NATO aircraft carriers by overwhelming them with a barrage of high-speed cruise missiles to sink ships..."
 
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