Is something going on in Ukraine?

[37L1]

One could almost see TPTB downing potato as a false flag to kick off World Watusi III.

Only problem is that would put the cackling imbecile in the oval office.

They appear to have painted they/themselves into a pickle.

That's a dilly of a metaphor.

 

[rtB]

TPTB do seem to relish the situation.

 

[theLBC]

 

[GreenGO Juan]

. did you ever see that pole dancer who won the "Ukraine's got talent" competition?

This comment is worthless with out links…

 

[winxp_man]

What you are trying to compare is a false narrative.
Until after the American Civil War it was legal to do so. After the war an amendment to the constitution changed that.
Ukraine agreed with letting the regions to separate. They did leave to join Russia. They wanted to be autonomous. Then politics, which you want to leave out of the discussion, happened. Which is where we are now. After eight years of Ukraine using the military to renig on the deal. Russia said enough.
So if California goes to Congress with a plan to separate and be a self sufficient region and Congress agrees. It's voted upon and the constitution is changed to allow it to happen. What right would the USA have to then change their mind and have the military start attacking them?

Do you know that one of Putins guys stated that Russian need to do what some are saying was happening in Donbas? And I’m willing to bet that more than just that one guy agreed

 

[winxp_man]

Nagasaki today

Hiroshima

Have you seen the capability of modern nukes though? They make these two atom bombs look like grenades. We are talkin wiping out entire nations within minutes.

 

[W54/XM-388]

Have you seen the capability of modern nukes though? They make these two atom bombs look like grenades. We are talkin wiping out entire nations within minutes.

Radiation levels aren't going to be that much worse than the old stuff as the newer ones are much more efficient in design.
Also nobody really bothers with the huge ones anymore, most of the stuff is going to be in the single digit megaton range.
Small countries like in Europe, sure most of the country is going to get it, but in big countries like the USA and China and Russia, plenty of stuff will be left out in places where there is no big strategic value.

There is actually a good chance that the initial devastation even for full on global WWIII going nuclear would be a lot less than many like to predict. The biggest issue would be the collapse of supply and production chains and energy grids / water / sewage / transport in many areas which will cause serious problems globally.
Africa for example will probably see at least 60% of it's population die within 2 to 3 years even if not a single nuke touches Africa, simply because nobody from the west is going to be handing out free food and medical supplies and helping them all not die.

 

[winxp_man]

Why Stalin ordered the forced relocation of ethnic groups

Deportations are one of the most tragic pages in Soviet history, and continue to be a sensitive issue for many members of the repressed ethnic and...

www.rbth.com

Interesting read talkin about soviet Russia view on moving whole towns to other parts of the USSR, and banning them from moving back. Then we have modern times friend of Putin talkin about banning anything but Russian in the outer territories of Russia. Zhirinovsky that is….

Zhirinovsky Renews Campaign to Do Away with Non-Russian Republics

Exploiting current discussions about the need for all residents of the Russian Federation to identify themselves in civic rather than ethnic terms, Vladimir Zhirinovsky, the flamboyant head of the …

www.eurasiareview.com

 

[winxp_man]

Radiation levels aren't going to be that much worse than the old stuff as the newer ones are much more efficient in design.
Also nobody really bothers with the huge ones anymore, most of the stuff is going to be in the single digit megaton range.
Small countries like in Europe, sure most of the country is going to get it, but in big countries like the USA and China and Russia, plenty of stuff will be left out in places where there is no big strategic value.

There is actually a good chance that the initial devastation even for full on global WWIII going nuclear would be a lot less than many like to predict. The biggest issue would be the collapse of supply and production chains and energy grids / water / sewage / transport in many areas which will cause serious problems globally.
Africa for example will probably see at least 60% of it's population die within 2 to 3 years even if not a single nuke touches Africa, simply because nobody from the west is going to be handing out free food and medical supplies and helping them all not die.

I’m talkin about their power to level out more ground. not talkin about fall out per radiation. Who’s gonna rebuild when the brains are all dead? It will be caveman days all over again. Which at this point might be a good thing haha!

 

[candyx]

I guess Joe had to go pick up his 10% of the 150 billion that he sent to his comedian friend.

 

[candyx]

Nagasaki today

Hiroshima

Good things came out of these bombings like Benihana Flaming Onion Volcano

 

[Darayavaus]

This comment is worthless with out links…

 

[UKDslayer]

 

[LRRPF52]

not if Russia takes the whole ball of wax which is what I want. I want the Russians to overrun them, complete collapse all the way to Kiev. Make ukie a puppet of the Russia. Saves us money, dems lose, Russia releases more shit on the dems

Don’t you realize that already happened. Keep up with the propagandists:

This was from 27FEB2022 out of China:
"Kiev fell: Putin's lightning war, subdued Ukraine in 1 hour 22 minutes; Shoigu is the god of war
Russian army already took Kiev. Emperor Putin never takes the American imperialists and western world seriously!
So fast? The Ukrainian commanding system crumbled in 1 hour 22 minutes, this taught a vivid lesson to the whole world.
Forget about the gulf war 31 years ago, this SMO set the standard of the war in the new era.
Russian army entered Kharkov and Odessa. Russian flag raised over the Kharkov admin building.
So quick, VDV controls Kiev airport. An-124 incoming. The SMO is expected to be concluded in 48 hours.
Russian army successfully landed in Odessa.
Russian army deployed mobile forces to maneuver deep behind the enemy line without stopping. Eventually a huge pocket will be formed. Then the enemy inside the pocket will be isolated and annihilated.
Those who died for the strategic goal are all heroes."

 

[Mr.BR]

Well that escalated rapidly, from leisurely getting head to .............. head blown

 

[UKDslayer]

 

[UKDslayer]

Just a little warning to Ukraine...

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The "other" Joe Biden.

 

[GreenGO Juan]

Not too shabby.

 

[Malum Prohibitum]

Well that escalated rapidly, from leisurely getting head to .............. head blown

Russian?

Are the Russians using consumer drones rigged to drop homemade bombs, now, like the Ukrainians have been doing? How do we know that is a Russian drone?

 

[LRRPF52]

I'm sure there are plenty of Russians that still remember the stories told by their grandparents of how the battles against the Germans were fought.
Worked for the Russians against the Germans, worked for the Chinese against the Americans.
Rot in prison or be one of the honoured dead.

The gamble is that the CIA runs out of Ukrainians to feed into their war machine before the Russians run out of prisoners and dissidents...

Until German tanks start rolling into Russia (the flag they are flying won't matter) and then the balloon finally goes up and we get the global nuclear war we have been being promised for the past 50 years.

Will you please share how the next few months, end of the year, next year will unfold?

How this will end?

Nobody knows how this is going to end. All of the “experts” were wrong out of the gate, thinking Ukraine would fall rapidly.

Russia will do Russia’s time-honored strategy of throwing bodies at the problem, which is why there’s a 700,000 man mobilization after the failures of the past attempts at pushing to Kiev for the past year.

Russian strategy is to soak up as many enemy munitions with the bodies of their soldiers until they reach a point where the enemy isn’t able to re-arm fast enough, and they can make a push with whatever soldiers happen to be in reserve behind the fodder at the time.

Europe’s strategy is to prevent this from spilling anymore into Europe as long as possible, so Ukraine will be given whatever they need to basically keep a stalemate and not allow Ukraine to realize a decisive victory. A decisive victory could trigger escalation.

Europe didn’t want any of this, nor did the US. Ukraine wanted to trade their goods and services in Euros, and slowly move away from worthless Rubles and Russia’s influence. They have had to sit by and watch Poland’s economy grow dramatically, while being pillaged and robbed by Russia’s puppets and Boyars.

The problem is that Russia can’t afford to have Ukraine establish financial, industrial, and military independence because the Ukrainian border pretty close to Moscow for many theater-specific weapons. Another major threat Russia was looking at was the fact Ukraine discovered huge oil fields off the coast of Odessa, and re-discovered the fields near Kharkiv.

Now imagine a future where Ukraine is pumping oil and NG to Germany. Putin could never let that happen, which is why he invaded in 2014 after his puppet Yanukovych was ousted.

 

[LRRPF52]

here's the thing about Steve's liberal leftist article, and others like it. They try to convince ignorant people that Russia is a huge prison camp where everybody gets arrested and thrown away for years, for even minor crimes. PUTLER's GULAG, right?

In reality, the USA has vastly more people in prison. Statistics say we have 2,068,800 people in prison. that's 25% of the entire world's prison population. Russia has 471,490.

But wait, The population of the USA is much higher than Russia, so that explains it, right? Nope again. We also have the highest rate of incarceration, 629 per 10k people. #1 on the list. Russia isn't even in the top 10. They are around 400 per 10k people.

That’s because in Russia, you pay off the police to avoid arrest. Police in Russia aren’t trying to arrest people. They just want pay-outs since they don’t make enough money to do much more than barely survive. They especially love it when they catch someone driving drunk, because you will lose your license permanently if you get taken in.

Drunk dudes will call friends, family, whoever they can to cough up the equivalent of thousands of dollars to bribe out of a DUI. You ever drive in traffic in Russia? They drive worse than Arabs.

 

[Darayavaus]

Russian?

Are the Russians using consumer drones rigged to drop homemade bombs, now, like the Ukrainians have been doing? How do we know that is a Russian drone?

the DPR and LPR has been using them from the start.

 

[Darayavaus]

Not too shabby.

 

[Mr.BR]

Russian?

Are the Russians using consumer drones rigged to drop homemade bombs, now, like the Ukrainians have been doing? How do we know that is a Russian drone?

Both sides are using exact same DJI drones to drop bomblets for past 8 years . Only on You tube you mostly find Ukrainian videos as Russian vids are often taken down ither because You tube or 'offended' viewers lodge complaints. So telegram is the media of choice where both sides post freely.

Lets put it other way if it were an Ukrainian drone this would be running front page MSM and Sun would be pushing paid promotion videos in HD on Youtube . We might still see that as they on a regular run with videos of their folks getting hit but claiming it was the Russians.

 

[GreenGO Juan]

Rigging a drone to drop something aint rocket science.

Anyone with a little R/C knowledge could do it.

 

[Mr.BR]

Interesting tidbit, the Ukraine drone war consumes lots of these commercial drones. Ukrainians say 50+ per day are lost to jamming. Russian numbers are probably similar

Currently, the biggest challenge related to UAVs is their short lifespan. On average, a drone’s lifespan on the battlefield is just three flights due to jamming communications and/or navigation. Commercial drones usually operate in 2.4GHz or 5.8GHz, which are easily interrupted.When a drone’s communications are jammed, they usually hover in place until the battery dies .

Given the short lifespan, no wonder flying RPGs appeared, FPV racing drones are much cheaper than DIJ drones that can be used for Reconasance and bomblet dropping

Bomblets with chlorine






Russians have same problems with theirs,here is a DJI drone tethered to a fishing line so that it can be retrieved in case its coms are suppressed










ISIS was the first one with major You tube brand anything from drones to beheadings it seems at that time it was aligned with the policies of You tube.

ISIS even manufactured some sort fo a guided DIY bomb ,that is something we haven't seen in Ukraine so far.

 

[Darayavaus]

Russians took the main supply hub in Bakhmut. AFU getting pushed out

«Σήμα τέλους»: Oι Oυκρανοί έχασαν τον μεγαλύτερο εφοδιαστικό κόμβο του

Οι Ουκρανοί έχασαν τον τελευταίο μεγάλο εφοδιαστικό κόμβο του Bakhmut με τον ρωσικό κλοιό να στενεύει απελπιστικά γύρω τους. Η

warnews247-gr.translate.goog

 

[Darayavaus]

These AFU guys are catching rounds on camera. I see three of them go down, not 300. faulty translation.

 

[UKDslayer]

 

[GreenGO Juan]

These AFU guys are catching rounds on camera. I see three of them go down, not 300. faulty translation.

3 dudes went to the same spot and got shot. After watching your boys catch it… why pop up in the exact same spot. Great tactics… dont stand on the X

 

[theLBC]

i'm afraid for ukraine.

 

[Darayavaus]

Hell in Bakhmut.

Κορύφωση του δράματος: Κλείνει η λαβίδα θανάτου στο Bakhmut – Ουκρανός

Σφοδρές μάχες διεξάγονται στην τελευταία οδό διαφυγής των ουκρανικών δυνάμεων από το Bakhmut. Πρόκειται για τον αυτοκινητόδρομο που οδηγεί στ

warnews247-gr.translate.goog

 

[winxp_man]

i'm afraid for ukraine.

I'm sure they're preparing just as much.

 

[winxp_man]

Hell in Bakhmut.

Κορύφωση του δράματος: Κλείνει η λαβίδα θανάτου στο Bakhmut – Ουκρανός

Σφοδρές μάχες διεξάγονται στην τελευταία οδό διαφυγής των ουκρανικών δυνάμεων από το Bakhmut. Πρόκειται για τον αυτοκινητόδρομο που οδηγεί στ

warnews247-gr.translate.goog

While in other areas the RU are sayin the same. Your point? I want to see the out come once one side has a hold of the city. Not this bullshit about this side is sayin this or this side is sayin that..... I can pull up video of RUsayin the same thing. Hell there is a video of the waggies talkin about they are not given enough artillery ammo. But once again you with this these one sided posts as UA siders doing the same.

 

[pmclaine]

Well that escalated rapidly, from leisurely getting head to .............. head blown

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My tax money at work.

 

[DarnYankeeUSMC]

You posed a question trying to make a comparison. It was not even close to the situation in Ukraine. Or do you believe that your question is similar?

Do you know that one of Putins guys stated that Russian need to do what some are saying was happening in Donbas? And I’m willing to bet that more than just that one guy agreed

One of Putin's guys? How about you post a link to whatever that post is referring to and how it is relevant.

 

[winxp_man]

Secret Kremlin document: how Russia plans to take over Belarus - VSQUARE.ORG

We have obtained a secret Kremlin document that shows how Vladimir Putin's Russia plans to take control of Belarus

vsquare.org

 

[winxp_man]

You posed a question trying to make a comparison. It was not even close to the situation in Ukraine. Or do you believe that your question is similar?

One of Putin's guys? How about you post a link to whatever that post is referring to and how it is relevant.

Making a statement that everyone in leadership of powerful countries have an agenda to take what they can. And only the blind dont see it. This was a post to the people that stated that RU does not want to enlarge itself. Or that they don't do what UA did in the Donbass area. Which is force the people within their country to see like they do and to speak their language or else!

 

[theLBC]

i wonder if the families of the 150-200k dead ukrainian patriots have to read these stupid stories about russia's failures and crap weapons.
it is heartbreaking and i think putin is going to go grozny on those poor guys pretty soon.
for what? we have no business prolonging this stupid war for profit bullshit.

 

[theLBC]

 

[theLBC]

 

[DarnYankeeUSMC]

They were not part of their country anymore. They were legally separated and self governing when the USA got involved and established a new government in Ukraine.

Making a statement that everyone in leadership of powerful countries have an agenda to take what they can. And only the blind dont see it. This was a post to the people that stated that RU does not want to enlarge itself. Or that they don't do what UA did in the Donbass area. Which is force the people within their country to see like they do and to speak their language or else!

You don't have a clue as to what Russia wants. They got involved to support the Donbas region and stop the genocide of it's people and to stop the encroachment of NATO to their borders.
Looks like they will accomplish that unless the USA decides to throw American boys to the front line.

 

[GreenGO Juan]

 

[winxp_man]

They were not part of their country anymore. They were legally separated and self governing when the USA got involved and established a new government in Ukraine.

You don't have a clue as to what Russia wants. They got involved to support the Donbas region and stop the genocide of it's people and to stop the encroachment of NATO to their borders.
Looks like they will accomplish that unless the USA decides to throw American boys to the front line.

If you read the article I posted thats dated 2011 it states that one of Putins buddy wanted all Russian territories to ban ideas of anything but Russia. And that anything else should be banned. And my question is if this guy Vladimir Zhirinovsky is thinking of forcing RU only view points and language are the others in office in RU not thinking it. You stated a while back that RU has never been about that and I stated they are about that. Also about interrogation of RU populations in lands they have taken over. I posted an article about how Russia has only done that since WWII! AND THAT they would transfer thousands in other parts of RU or the gulags, just to Russianize areas to their views.

I know this once again from people in Moldova that have been taken away and replaced with RU's. I mean now Transnistria wants to be part of RU. Sorry that land has never been RU land until dumb ass FDR thought it was good to give to RU. So implanting people in regions has been a thing and why some of this shit is going on.

So these articles I have posted are talkin about these issues I'm typing about in here. But so many want to look the other way and say oh RU want to be RU. What evidence you have of that? That they just want to be left alone and not expand? I mean you have been stating they are not stuck in WWII/ColdWar days.... Yet even their billboards show other wise!


Besides the video that is about 1 hour long that you or another member posted about the Donbass. What other videos tell the story that there was a genocide? The reason I ask is if we look on the UA side Russia is doing the same now. Bombing everything without much remorse as is claimed was done in 2014. Do we have mass graves of dead people from Donbass? I mean in Bucha there are videos and pictures of graves.

Russia’s Bucha ‘Facts’ Versus the Evidence - bellingcat

Open source evidence appears to contradict Russian claims of elaborate fakes in Ukrainian town where dead bodies were found strewn across street.

www.bellingcat.com

 

[the_oleksandr]

Well that escalated rapidly, from leisurely getting head to .............. head blown

i'm afraid for ukraine.

Not even close to what it says.

 

[theLBC]

like afghanistan?

 

[the_oleksandr]

Not even close to what it says.

Says:

“History always repeats itself.

Strength is in truth, and we are right.”

This here is clear example of blind assessment and gullibility.

 

[UKDslayer]

I hope Putin does the right thing. Since there is only one kid with his big boy pants on. There was quite a bit on last night with Putin's cabinet being rushed to the Kremlin - so something is UP. The first strike on Crimea, along with the Nordstream provocation - Biden deserves what's coming. The American people don't.

 

[Darayavaus]

They were not part of their country anymore. They were legally separated and self governing when the USA got involved and established a new government in Ukraine.

You don't have a clue as to what Russia wants. They got involved to support the Donbas region and stop the genocide of it's people and to stop the encroachment of NATO to their borders.
Looks like they will accomplish that unless the USA decides to throw American boys to the front line.

he's from Romania and he sounds like Zelensky. IDGAF what he thinks America should or should not be doing. that's the real problem with this country - instead of spending our American money to improve America, we blow it all on whiny foreign cunts, and every dollar we spend makes them louder and more demanding. If Russia invaded them, I truly wouldn't care.

 

[GreenGO Juan]

Says:

“History always repeats itself.

Strength is in truth, and we are right.”

This here is clear example of blind assessment and gullibility.