Is something going on in Ukraine?
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I caught a few minutes of Dan Holland (former chief of something in Moscow) . He was praising the uke's for pushing the Russians back from Bakhmut. Then went on trashing Putin's speech and the puppets jumping up to applaud him at every paragraph.
Ummm, I guess he missed the potatoes state of the union speech.
Using a sense of patriotism to impel your thought experiment has its major pitfalls, beyond the fact that it's overly simplistic. In this case I believe the premise is flawed in that several factors are fundamentally different.
A. The nascent colonies were not extremely corrupt, nor were its leaders hand picked puppets.
B. The French were not housing bio labs in the Americas, on the heels of a global pandemic, nothing like that existed.
C. Ukraine has no intention of creating a true democracy or constitutional republic, rather they are in the works of forming a powerful kleptocracy modeled after our current governance.
D. The Americas provided no proximal threat to the monarchy, where as Ukraine is on Russias border.
E. The Americas did not fundamentally threaten the existential existence of England.
The list can go on and on ad-nauseam, in which we can further pick apart the proposed hypothetical scenario.
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US President Joe Biden visited Kyiv on February 20 ahead of the first anniversary of Russia’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine. Biden met with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky and announced that the US will provide an additional $500 million in m
Yeah that's just MSN Cherry pick information from the ISW report. Wagner has Arty support from the Russian military.
From the link above- It is unlikely that Wagner is operating in the Bakhmut direction completely without artillery support, however. Wagner is likely receiving artillery support from the conventional Russian forces that have been supporting Wagner operations in the area since the Wagner offensive culminated.[16] The Russian military command may have stripped Wagner’s privileges to independently use its own artillery systems, which Prigozhin sought to portray as disregard for Wagner servicemen’s lives.
Basically what's happening is the Russian military is not giveing them shell's but is supporting them with artillery fire... Western media trying to distort the information to sell their narrative.
Edit- Russia is not leaving them out to dry, they likely don't want them using arty in a way that the do not approve, IE keeping heavy weapons out of the hands of PMC's. It is not evil or incompentence, its control over the weapons they are putting in the region. Problem is most people aren't like myself and don't read the entire ISW report... just the cherry picked head lines.
Wagner Group Likely 'Cut Off' From Russian Artillery Supply: ISW
Story by Kaitlin Lewis • Yesterday 9:48 PMThe Wagner Group has reportedly lost access to its supply of weaponry by the Russian Ministry of Defense (MoD), according to the latest assessment from the Institute for the Study of War (ISW).
Ukrainian squad launches one of four rockets at a Russian infantry position from their BM-21 Grad 122mm multiple rocket launcher, in the southern Donbas region, Ukraine, on February 20, 2023. The pro-Kremlin Wagner Group could possibly get cut off from its supply of munitions from Russia as the war reaches into its one-year mark this week.© Photo by Scott Peterson/Getty Images
Yevgeny Prigozhin, founder of Wagner and longtime ally to Russian President Vladimir Putin, said Monday that the Russian military had stopped providing his private mercenary group with artillery shells due to his "complicated relationships" with unspecified Russian officials, wrote the ISW.
The think tank reports that Prigozhin is likely referring to officials of the Russian MoD, as ties between the Wagner Group and Russian military continue to weaken.
"Prigozhin claimed that Wagner has 'complete shell hunger' as a result of Russian military officials ignoring his demands and introducing new limitations and restrictions on his ammunition procurement," read Monday's assessment.
As a result, Prigozhin claimed, Wagner mercenaries were facing "twice the number of causalities," the ISW wrote.
The Russian MoD has also halted Prigozhin's ability to recruit prisoners and blocked them from utilizing select Russian training grounds for its own troops. According to the Wagner founder, some Russian officers have "violated the military code" by still providing weapons to his mercenary group.
Despite sharing a friendly history with Putin, Prigozhin's troops have recently been caught in a feud with the Russian government after the two forces clashed over which troops played a leading role in Russia's advancement toward the Ukrainian city of Bakhmut.
Wagner forces have played a pivotal role in Russia's invasion, but seem to be quickly losing influence in Ukraine, with the ISW previously reporting instances of Putin replacing "exhausted" Wagner troops with his own military along the front lines in the Donetsk region.
The Wagner Group has also reportedly faced heavy death tolls in its fight alongside Russia, particularly among its troops who were recruited from Russian prisons. The U.K. defense ministry reported Friday that Wagner's deployed convict recruits had likely experienced a casualty rate of up to 50 percent.
Last week, the Wagner Group blamed "hundreds" of its deaths on the Russian government in a post to its Telegram account, claiming that the Russian MoD had failed to send "weapons, ammunition and everything necessary on time" for its troops along the front lines in Ukraine.
However, on Saturday, Prigozhin continued his "informational campaign" against the Kremlin, reported the ISW, claiming that Wagner "is not subordinate to the [Russian MoD] and 'has nothing to do with the Russian Army.'"
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Nazis pointing to alleged Nazis on a thread infested with Nazis
People like this are who I am talking about in my reply above.
They are working hard to sell the narrative of a schism between Russia and its PMC.
Ukrainian officials continue to respond to statements made by unspecified US defense officials on the pace and prospects of the war as it approaches the one-year mark. Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky stated on February 20 that Ukraine will continue to defend Bakhmut but "not at any cost."[3] Zelensky and Ukrainian Defense Minister Oleksii Reznikov also emphasized that Ukrainian troops are continuing to prepare for counteroffensives in the near term.[4] Zelensky and Reznikov’s statements are likely direct responses to unspecified US defense officials, who reportedly told the Washington Post on February 14 that the United States is concerned about Ukraine’s ability to defend Bakhmut while also pursuing counteroffensive operations.[5] ISW continues to assess that Ukraine’s decision to defend Bakhmut is a strategically sound effort to pin Russian forces in a discrete area of the front and attrit them, and Zelensky likely tempered his administration’s stance on Bakhmut to make a limited rhetorical concession to US officials.[6] It has long been clear that Ukraine would not continue to defend Bakhmut at the risk of seeing large numbers of Ukrainian troops encircled in the city, so Zelensky’s comment is not likely a real change in Kyiv’s strategy.
Same ISW report talks about disagreement on the other (wests) side in the defense of Bakhmut
Zelensky has been begging for free F-16's for nearly a year, we still haven't supplied them.
Nobody is writing articles about that...
Same ISW report talks about disagreement on the other (wests) side in the defense of Bakhmut
Zelensky has been begging for free F-16's for nearly a year, we still haven't supplied them.
Nobody is writing articles about that...
The resident leftist chimes in on who he/she think's is a Nazi. Thanks, I needed a good laugh!
At least he didn't block you and report you to the SSThe resident leftist chimes in on who he/she think's is a Nazi. Thanks, I needed a good laugh!
I love when little yappy dog immigrants come here, benefit from our generosity, spend our tax money, live safely in the USA, but then want us to fight their relative's battles and give them money, while their timid little asses stay safely parked in a chair.
well, princess
well, princess
Good point, probably because the glowies here actually don't get incensed, it's all business.
Good point, probably because the glowies here actually don't get incensed, it's all business.
You have not yet made a submission to Prigozhin to fight nazis with the Wagner criminals?I love when little yappy dog immigrants come here, benefit from our generosity, spend our tax money, live safely in the USA, but then want us to fight their relative's battles and give them money, while their timid little asses stay safely parked in a chair.
well, princess
You sound vaccinated.
It's a MSN.com link... you have to read to the second line
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Wagner Group Likely 'Cut Off' From Russian Artillery Supply: ISW
Story by Kaitlin Lewis • Yesterday 10:48 PM
what? and the reduce the fun of trolling a target-rich environment!Good point, probably because the glowies here actually don't get incensed, it's all business.
As we weaken every day Russia and China increase trade, profit, GDP, and their bottom lines. I am not sure if this is an intended or un intended circumstance of the proxy war. What is for sure is the sanctions and trade imbargos have not weakened anyone. According to this analysis of Putins speech that the ball is still in our court should we wish to de escalate.
Slow Joe just gave away another 500 Million so his 10% will be 50 Million enough to keep hunter high for a couple of months
Statement by President Biden on Nord Stream 2 | The White House
Since Russia began deploying troops to the Ukrainian border, the United States has worked closely with our Allies and partners to deliver a strong,
I still don’t think Hersh has how it happened right.
Russia and China are throwing away an opportunity never seen before to take down the west. Biden the old puppet and a woke military. Unless I'm reading it wrong and Biden is the best war and global strategist that ever walked the earth and has placed the brightest men and women in key positions to defeat 2 super powers any day of the week.
Even if your blind you could see what I mean .........
Even if your blind you could see what I mean .........
meanwhile the Pollocks are the biggest holocaust deniers of them all.
Polish government:
"whoever accuses, publicly and against the facts, the Polish nation, or the Polish state, of being responsible or complicit in the Nazi crimes committed by the Third German Reich … shall be subject to a fine or a penalty of imprisonment of up to three years".
Polish History:
As German forces implemented the killing, they drew upon some Polish agencies, such as Polish police forces and railroad personnel, in the guarding of ghettos and the deportation of Jews to the killing centers. Individual Poles often helped in the identification, denunciation, and hunting down of Jews in hiding, often profiting from the associated blackmail, and actively participated in the plunder of Jewish property.
There were incidents, particularly in the small towns of eastern Poland, where local Polish residents—acutely aware of the Germans’ presence and their antisemitic policies—carried out or participated in pogroms and murdered their Jewish neighbors. The pogrom in the town of Jedwabne in 1941 is one of the best-documented cases.
no wonder Pollocks love Nazi Bandera Ukrainians so much.
Israeli statement:
שום חוק פולני לא ישנה את ההיסטוריה. נזכור ולא נשכח.
No Polish law can make history change. We'll never forget
— יאיר לפיד (@yairlapid) February 1, 2018
unfortunately Steve, this is what you've been using in this "target rich environment"
Zelenski almost certainly fellated him under that fancy table afterwards.
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while the persecution has seemingly been everywhere and forever, jews were being exterminated in poland and ukraine in startling numbers at least 10 years before the rise of hitler and the nazis.
Biden going to Ukraine does not
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Any one calling Mac Gregor a Russian propagandist is a retard. He is sharing his opinion. Scott Ritter was a Marine who worked in intel(oxymoron) and with the UN in Iraq during the whole 90's Iraq thing.
Both this men worked inside and for the system. Now they are coming out and speaking on their opinions of the problems.
Any one trying to scarlet letter them likely does not carry their credentials in these matters.
This is probably pretty obvious but some considered the issues going on in Eastern Europe to be similar to the rise of Adolf Hitler. I think they are wrong. This is a World War I scenario where nations keep adding more and more fuel to the fire until it explodes. And let us all pray to the GOD or Diety of your choice that this explosion does not happen because its gonna make WW1 look like a patticake party in some little girls back yard.
Problem is we don’t have a leader like Eisenhower or Ford, who would back Putin down or like Carter who would negotiate between the parties, either approach would be workable. Instead we have biden who is more interested in financial gain for himself and his family and statisfying his far left constituents driven by his sexual deviant heavy cabinet. And like France, Germany, Russia and England prior to World War One, we keep building and building and daring and daring.
The Big Bang is gonna be a really Big Bang.
Problem is we don’t have a leader like Eisenhower or Ford, who would back Putin down or like Carter who would negotiate between the parties, either approach would be workable. Instead we have biden who is more interested in financial gain for himself and his family and statisfying his far left constituents driven by his sexual deviant heavy cabinet. And like France, Germany, Russia and England prior to World War One, we keep building and building and daring and daring.
The Big Bang is gonna be a really Big Bang.
Remember the Pic of the two "medics" hit by a missile??
Is that them on the far left? There was a US Marine named Pete Reed in this group labeled "aid workers"
Around 10:00 the explosion was filmed .
Is that them on the far left? There was a US Marine named Pete Reed in this group labeled "aid workers"
Around 10:00 the explosion was filmed .
Let me put it this way, if we decimate Russia with conventional weapons do you really think russia will keep it conventional? That is a big no, they will push the red button.
If the "west" looses they do have the "balls" to push the red button. A button that we all know will put a very big speed bump in all this NWO stuff. It will give them the population reduction they want, but just where will those ICBM's land? If you are bill gates or klaus schwab you better not let anyone know where you are because I have a feeling if the guys on the other side are going down, they are going to make sure people like that go down as well.
This will be flinch test. Not knowing enough about Russia, but looking around my own country, I know where the cowards are.
As long as we don’t attack Russia proper, i do not think they will. Unleashing the sunshine is not something either side will do over fighting in Ukraine. Only if the fight is pushed over the border threatening their existence. Then definitely.
Killing Russians in Ukraine is acceptable, attacking Russian forces in Russia… no!
I don't think he'll push that button. Putin, nor who ever is currently controlling the US.
If people are about to be overrun and killed, wiped to extinction, would most people have a problem taking the enemy with them?
I think not.
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