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Is something going on in Ukraine?
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I can tell that you believe the media.
Go spit on the American flag somewhere else, you neocon fuckwad.
It is absolutely isnt. That was not the same video. But then there was this too and others. Its not one source so denying it just a lie and betrays your motivation.
Russia faces global outrage over bodies in Ukraine's streets
Russia is facing a fresh wave of condemnation after evidence emerged of what appeared to be deliberate killings of numerous civilians in Ukraine.
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I can trust independent media or no. Make up your mind. Again not a neocon you dumbshit. Try harder. Maybe wrap yourself in that Russian flag boss.
you are a media whore. they manipulate your little mind and your actions. you believe every little bit that they feed to you. it's obvious for everyone to see, you neocon.
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i'll take that as a NO, but you belive videos that support your argument. because surely videos cant be staged or faked. people are dying no doubt but the real war to us is being fought in propoganda, public perception, and court of public opinion. none of us truly know.
I mean all you have is insults? You didnt have time but now all you have is time to regurgitate petty insults. Wow that was fast.
unknown sniper.
who benefits from random civilians dying?
it only fits the narrative that russians are evil, and serves no other purpose, hence it was probably ukes.
they are the only ones that gain from this sort of killing.
right out of the syrian "rebel" playbook.
throw a grenade into a market and blame the opposition.
So, no media is trust worthy? Only obscure substacks? Glad you admit that hippocrysy. It makes you sound less insane.
no, I have pages of philosophical arguments. But then the short bus pulled up tonight and kicked you off, so I'm just enjoying the show. I don't think anyone here is going to seriously try to convince you of anything. Media-shilling Neocons like yourself are always stubborn in their self righteousness.
my trust in media stops at "Something is Happening in Ukraine" the rest is subject to scrutiny.
Yeah, that wasn't the all of the interviews and does fit with the fact that gee golly the Russians had control of the suburb. Hmm let's put on our detective hat and figure out who might have INVADED another country that might have done it. Who could it be.
It really is pathetic how you think that. I mean yall went full retard when someone even barely questioned your predetermined support for Russia. Its almost laughable how you try to fall back on some pseudo intellectual "philosophy".
I don't think anyone here is going to seriously try to convince you of anything. Media-shilling Neocons like yourself are always stubborn in their self righteousness.
You literally threw out a bunch of shit talking points, referenced janky fringe websites as proof and you are going to tell me I am stubborn haaaaaaaa
. But NeOcOns EvErYwHeRe HURR DERR.The level of fringe stupid is so high in here it's on another level. Maybe you can put on another substack.
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again, strategically it serves no purpose and is counter-productive.
the only one with something to gain from this sort of indiscriminate killing of civilians are the ukrainians (who hate their russian neighbors anyway).
its only purpose is propaganda, and it isn't serving the russians.
occom's razor points directly at the nazis.
Yep, because "stragetically" Russians would do things that always make sense and serve a purpose. Oh wait no they wouldnt. Especially when they are directed to occupy a foreign country and suppress the local population. Gee that sounds EXACTLY like what they would do.
How many accounts do the gag fag bunch need.....agreed!! Off to the ignore hole
they were leaving. again you're not making any sense and making wild leaps.
I'm not making any leaps. Eye witness testimony specifically calls them out doing it. People who live there and survived it. Photographs and correlated aerial photography proving the timing. Get real.
I mean its not like a bunch of randoms on a niche website are actually of any real importance. And even then if they are sucking Russia's nuts I don't want to associate with them. The type of people who deny massacres dont deserve serious consideration anyway. In the real world people like that are called fringe crazies. And for good reason.Yea, just a few.
You pay taxes to Biden in order to stay out of jail.
He then takes those taxes and gives them to Ukraine who then launders it and distributes it back to Biden through back channels. And the rich get richer.
Yay, Democracy.
good chat, unfortunately I need to get some rest so I can fullfill my debt as a tax slave to NOT Putin tomorrow.
He then takes those taxes and gives them to Ukraine who then launders it and distributes it back to Biden through back channels. And the rich get richer.
Yay, Democracy.
good chat, unfortunately I need to get some rest so I can fullfill my debt as a tax slave to NOT Putin tomorrow.
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i hope the killing is almost over. might be if we stop feeding the war. no idea if this is actually mp or when.
Oh so Congress doesn't make those decisions through acts of Congress? Huh the knowledge on here! Wow.
You saying that to your glowie boss? In that case bye Felicia.
The "who then launders it and distributes it back to Biden through back channels." Part too?
That was only the entire point of his reply!
Someone has to approve the appropriations for the fiat $$$ in the first place. <its congress, congress does that>
That's roughly one Ukrainian for every Russian tank that's been blown up lmao. Both sides have a couple hundred thousand men total, not counting whatever auxiliaries or militia/volunteers have shown up. 250 dudes is nothing.
Got to the name calling stage now.....keep going with the liberal playbook......
Doc
This is gayer than 5 dudes fucking 4 dudes.
I finished an entire bag of popcorn catching up in the past four pages of this thread, engaging to say the least.
Putin = Hitler = "Put-Ler" good one right!
Funnier is the fact that most politically aligned Democrats and Neo Cons truly believe Putin is the modern analogue to Hitler. Ironically the Nazis are on the Ukrainian side however, but if we are to believe the media these are anti Soviet Nazis, so.. not Nazis as we understand them to be, they are the "good" Nazis right? And furthermore not like the "bad" Nazis in the USA who dare protest election results, and show up at school board meetings to question why woke Marxist teachers instruct their seven year olds on queer gender identity studies. Glad we got that out of the way, phew... what a gaslight mind fuck right! Welcome to 2022.
Putin is not Hitler, past history proves me correct, and future history will re enforce this fact. Sure Putin is a "bad" guy, but it's more complex than that, isn't it.
Putin = Hitler = "Put-Ler" good one right!
Funnier is the fact that most politically aligned Democrats and Neo Cons truly believe Putin is the modern analogue to Hitler. Ironically the Nazis are on the Ukrainian side however, but if we are to believe the media these are anti Soviet Nazis, so.. not Nazis as we understand them to be, they are the "good" Nazis right? And furthermore not like the "bad" Nazis in the USA who dare protest election results, and show up at school board meetings to question why woke Marxist teachers instruct their seven year olds on queer gender identity studies. Glad we got that out of the way, phew... what a gaslight mind fuck right! Welcome to 2022.
Putin is not Hitler, past history proves me correct, and future history will re enforce this fact. Sure Putin is a "bad" guy, but it's more complex than that, isn't it.
Crap. Just got back and it looks like I missed four pages.
What did I miss?
Anyone blame the Azov Battalion for the Bucha atrocities yet? Despite that battalion being under siege 400 miles away in Mariupol?
(Heard the Kremlin released that doozy yesterday so I figured it would be reposted here already.) (Was Darayavaus the first to post it?)
What about the fall of Izyum?
267 Ukrainian Marines surrendering in Mariupol?
Russian advances on Slovyansk? (sp?)
Ukrainian NE front crumpling back to the major cities?
Ukrainian offensive towards Kherson?
Russian retaliatory strike on the oil storage in Odessa?
What did I miss?
Anyone blame the Azov Battalion for the Bucha atrocities yet? Despite that battalion being under siege 400 miles away in Mariupol?
(Heard the Kremlin released that doozy yesterday so I figured it would be reposted here already.) (Was Darayavaus the first to post it?)
What about the fall of Izyum?
267 Ukrainian Marines surrendering in Mariupol?
Russian advances on Slovyansk? (sp?)
Ukrainian NE front crumpling back to the major cities?
Ukrainian offensive towards Kherson?
Russian retaliatory strike on the oil storage in Odessa?
Name something the left offers that isn't based on shirking responsibility and/or getting free stuff.
Leftys are so averse to responsibility they literally kill their own children to avoid it.
And before you say it....
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One of the only things holocaust surviving jewish decedents from eastern Europe hate more than NAZIS are Russians. They got abused by both the Nazis and then the pissed off red army.
I learned this from my moms boyfriend, who’s mother survived the holocaust and father was abused and jailed by the red army, he works in the US “defense “ industry.
Also who for the last 50 years has been supplying weapons to arabs to attack Israel? Russia.
In a strange way it actually kind of makes sense
I am curious what the Ukrainians will do if they took a town in Russia. I suspect it will depend greatly on the quality of the unit that does the occupying. The Ukrainians are capable of doing what was done in Bucha, just as much as the Russians are AND the Ukrainians clearly have professional disciplined units also.
What the Russians did is clearly not systemic though. Many towns have been freed from Russian control, but only in Bucha where a poorly disciplined unit was stationed do we see this. Its already been commented in this thread that other Russian units are quite humane in their dealings with the locals even boisterous ones.
Show me the pro Russian on this board.
Have any more of those straw-man arguments?
How predictable.
With the performance of their military recently, I'm inclined to believe that, but we can't discount Russia's nuclear capability nor its dominance of the energy sector across across portions of Europe.
LMFAO!!!!! You use that as your source? Now it all makes sense.View attachment 7843183
Yeah, no:
Statement on the War in Ukraine by Scholars of Genocide, Nazism and World War II
As we write this, the horror of war is unfolding in Ukraine. The last time Kyiv was under heavy artillery fire and saw tanks in its streets was duringjewishjournal.com
"the act or an instance of killing a number of usually helpless or unresisting human beings under circumstances of atrocity or cruelty" - Merriam-Webster
So, more than 2. It has more to do with the circumstances and intent than the number.
Newly released footage of a russian soldier murdering innocent ukrainians.
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