Is this ammo/primer/gun thing the “New Normal” or is this just the same ol shit❓

Buy low sell high?

  • Buy Cheap Stack Deep

    Votes: 56 82.4%

  • Sell it at the peak

    Votes: 12 17.6%
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With the prices of ammo, Primers, projos, guns at these sky high prices do you anticipate prices falling?

Just wrestling w the idea of selling EVERYTHING and starting over when prices get low again.

Buy cheap stack deep or sell high?

There is a poll of you scroll up

***anyone try this move to get ahead after the Obama/Sandy Hook era when we were literally being told AR’s and AK’s would be no more.....did it work or do you have regrets?
 
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DevilDocAZ said:
I don’t have much. It would be an “all or none” move.
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If you don't have much, I would suggest you hold on to what you have and use it as needed.

If on the other hand you took AJ's sage advice years back and have more ammo, supplies and projectile slingers than you can probably use in your lifetime, then it's a great time to start selling the excess off slowly as prices rise.

Best case, it will probably be the better part of a year before demand, supply and prices all come back into balance.

I don't think we are going to get back to pre 2020 panic prices however, the "new normal" will probably be a fair bit higher than back in the 2018/2019 time frame.
 
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I’ve thought about selling and hoping it goes back to normal next year. It’s a gamble but I think it I’ll return with slightly higher prices then before.
 
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BLKWLFK9 said:
I ain't selling shit. I've given some to friends in need, but other than that, aint shit leaving my house.
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Oh I’ve given some and been gifted some.

I’m thinking of a way to unload some “good stuff” and maybe get out of this type of shooting and just go back to a simple pew pew stuff
 
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I had purchased a bunch of Federal American Eagle .45 ACP 230 FMJ at $160.00 a case plus shipping back before the first Obama term and when the price went vertical a sold a few cases to some friends in need at what I paid thinking no problem, the price will come back down...Last time I checked it was about $580.00 a case.
 
#15
Replacement costs is why I have backed off the “sell all my reloading equip/components cliff”

you’re making 4x profit but replacing it will cost you almost 2x previous paid price and consume your days with searching

End of the day not worth it yet as I fear this isn’t going to get better anytime soon
 
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Ammo and reloading supplies stay with me. What guarantee do we have there will be "better times" again? The people running the show aren't our friends, and they will be running the show for the foreseeable future. They want to limit ammo purchases and require permits to even purchase a gun. Wait until the crazies really get traction and stack the courts. All my goodies will be staying at home.
 
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kimbergoldmatch said:
I had purchased a bunch of Federal American Eagle .45 ACP 230 FMJ at $160.00 a case plus shipping back before the first Obama term and when the price went vertical a sold a few cases to some friends in need at what I paid thinking no problem, the price will come back down...Last time I checked it was about $580.00 a case.
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So a case of Eagle .45ACP 230’s never fell back to $160? Or did they and you just didn’t replenish or itnwas just difficult to do so?

These are the things im trying to understand.
 
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It seems a bit late in the game to buy it at today's prices and think about turning around and sell it to try and make a profit good luck if you try it . but , someone that hoarded millions of items in the past might turn a nice profit on it if they don't mind not being able to replace what ever they sell . me personally I don't see any of this ending well , things aren't going back to yesterdays prices . Prices always seem to always go up not down and the governments willingness to even think about and act on taking citizens rights away is not a good sign of things to come in the future . when for !/3 the hassle they could do something more directly against crime directly like stiffer penalties . That they would rather piss off so 1/2 of the countries population just strike me as odd , pushing for a show down is more work than killing criminals and far more costly .
 
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I would not be keen on selling any of my modest stash of ammo or components for calibers that I currently shoot. The situation will improve but it's gonna take time and I wouldn't risk running dry just to put a few bucks of profit in my pocket.

But if I were sitting on a stash of something I no longer shoot that was also commanding a solid price (say, .357 Mag ammo), you better bet that I'd be slapping shipping labels on boxes.
 
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E. Bryant said:
I would not be keen on selling any of my modest stash of ammo or components for calibers that I currently shoot. The situation will improve but it's gonna take time and I wouldn't risk running dry just to put a few bucks of profit in my pocket.

But if I were sitting on a stash of something I no longer shoot that was also commanding a solid price (say, .357 Mag ammo), you better bet that I'd be slapping shipping labels on boxes.
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Yes .. It will improve.. It's still America . Business and making profit is based on supply and demand . . If you want/need fast cash, then sell some of your stocked supplies .
( Supply will catch up to Demand ) that was caused by fear hoarding . Profit Hoarders sell, to make $$$ .
Supply by manufacturing will catch up to fill the open gap of no available retail product, to make their profit $$$ .

( IMHO ) . The last few elections where there was a party regime change. It always seems to be normal for ammo hording, and then manufacturing caught up to fill the open gap of ammo and reload supplies at a reasonable rate of time .
This time was different and pretty extreme with a 'double back to back hit' ( Covid and then Election year ) , It double panicked the Fear/Panic buyers . That fact instantly added Millions more People who never think ahead, and added to the usual number of election year hoarding . Big Numbers added and instantly buying all the Ammo and Reload product based on their emotional state of fear.

So it will take some time to fill the retail shelves . and as usual a few years from now, the last minute 'panic Buyers' who never needed Ammo or a Firearms, and never felt those items important till they were feeling scared . Most will eventually sell off there panic bought Ammo and Firearms at a loss because it's the 1st thing they sell when they 'Feel comfortable' and 'feel safe' or need money for paying household bills, to buying a new Apple phone .
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I am selling a few things I didn't really want or need. I just sold a RCBS Summit press for $410.00 I had heard that one had gone for $600.00 the week before. Before all this panic I would have been happy to get $75.00 for it.

BTW I usually give friends first dibs on what ever I am selling then I put it on ebay and let the fair market work out the price I never put a reserve price in and I usually do a stupid cheap starting price of like five bucks then sit back and let the magic happen. I don't put a gun to someone's head and make them buy it......lol
 
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I sold stuff that was sitting in the safe doing nothing. Like a Ruger Blackhawk I inherited and never shot. Used the record profit to buy optics and upgrade my current EDC with holsters and better sights and such. I have enough ammunition and reloading components to keep me shooting for years as I don't compete. I have used this situation to refine my modest stable of firearms and get everything just how I want it in terms of optics and accessories.

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I've been selling off stuff and it seems it is more difficult to move ammo now than a month or two ago. I could be wrong but I think we may be hitting a price plateau on certain ammo like 556/223 and M80 Ball (at least online). Pistol ammo seems to be still moving fast but the new price of 70cpr has people thinking twice.

In the next few months the Remington plant should be full steam ahead. I believe a new fiocchi plant is either built or supposed to be built soon as well.

I have M855 listed at a price lower than what I sold it for a few weeks ago and no takers. Unless the democrats announce something new in terms of gun legislation, I think we will see a plateau and subsequent drop in the next year.

Match ammo, defensive ammo and hunting ammo still command a higher price and will move at the higher price.

Just my observation.
 
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"Normally" after a big scare/shooting/election prices jump. Then after the demand slows down or enough time passes. Prices go down; but they never fully return to the previous prices.

Buy it cheap and stack it deep. I've never seen ammo loose value.
 
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I've seen it multiple times.

Prices will absolutely go back down to pre-panic levels, just like the last 3 times. I bought .22 LR ammo for as little as 4.5 cents a round in early 2020. Got a lot more than that when I sold it, the other less desirable, and the excess that I bought cheap after the last selloff and restock. I plan to do it again, but have not put myself into a shortage.
 
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#38
My opinion, I don't see prices coming back down to where they were 6-8 months ago. I also don't see inventories going back to where they were 6-8 months ago. The reason? The stolen election last year and the very real fact that Republican politicians are spineless cowards. We will never see another honest election. For my grandkids sake I pray I am wrong.
 
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Do you have faith in your government? Do you believe things will ever be the same (as in in the 4 years Trump was in office)? Do you? That's the question. Unless you have bought for years with this shortage in mind, I'd keep what you have. It's bartering material at the very least. I know people that have 20k rounds for just 1 firearm. Now if you have enough to last you a life time and then some, selling that "then some" portion makes sense.
 
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DevilDocAZ said:
So a case of Eagle .45ACP 230’s never fell back to $160? Or did they and you just didn’t replenish or itnwas just difficult to do so?

These are the things im trying to understand.
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Edit: i mis-spoke the $160.00 case was in 2004, it would have been $260.00 per case right before Obama in 2007, still never came back down.

To compare Apples to Apples I pulled any invoices I had from the same supplier, this is from 2004 to 2017 because I haven’t bought any since. ($160.00 was for a 1,000 round case)

Federal American Eagle .45 ACP 230 FMJ
2004 $.16 per round
2005 $.18 per round
2006 None
2007 $.26 per round
2008-2014 None
2015 $.34 per round
2016 $.34 per round
2017 $.35 per round
2018-2020 None
2021 None but $.59 per round last time it was available

So as you can see the price never came back down even after Trump took office.
 
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kimbergoldmatch said:
Edit: i mis-spoke the $160.00 case was in 2004, it would have been $260.00 per case right before Obama in 2007, still never came back down.

To compare Apples to Apples I pulled any invoices I had from the same supplier, this is from 2004 to 2017 because I haven’t bought any since. ($160.00 was for a 1,000 round case)

Federal American Eagle .45 ACP 230 FMJ
2004 $.16 per round
2005 $.18 per round
2006 None
2007 $.26 per round
2008-2014 None
2015 $.34 per round
2016 $.34 per round
2017 $.35 per round
2018-2020 None
2021 None but $.59 per round last time it was available

So as you can see the price never came back down even after Trump took office.
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I think the reason for that was hostilities of the Demwits towards my president. Remember, he never got a grace period and was always under attack his entire 4 years.
 
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I have enough to last quite a while, but I'm not selling anything. When things return, if they ever do, we don't know what the pricing structure is going to be. Right now I'm reloading with cheap components. Why would I want to sell now only to have to pay more later?
 
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