Considering one of these to wear at places that “require” them.
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It's just a Mask...
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Voting booths and polling stations are dangerous. All voting will be done by mail. All US residences will be mailed a dozen ballots. If you are "White non-Hispanic" your residence will be mailed one ballot and you will be charged $50 for return postage. If you are Black/Brown/Hispanic, your residence will be mailed 40 ballots per household and you will be paid $500 for every ballot returned. If you require more ballots, please call 1-800-FAR-LEFT and another box of ballots will be hand-delivered to your residence within one hour.
And that would be all well and good if they were actually explaining that to the general public with more efficacy. The problem is that when people wear the mask they think they are protected. As a result they stop distancing and stop washing their hands regularly. Recent data (that I can't be bothered to link for you right now) is showing that due to these factors, mandatory masks are less effective than social distancing guidelines alone. Anecdotally, when I wear a mask to the store or meetings people tend to get much closer than they should (within 3ft). Pull the mask down and clear your throat, watch them scatter like roaches.
The cloth masks are little more than a compliance test/placebo, enforced by ignorant virtue signalling tards.
As a test; I wore a full face respirator with Cl rated pods to a gathering downtown protesting the mandatory "protection" requirements. Despite the fact that this gear will ACTUALLY prevent the transmission/contraction of the virus, I was COMMANDED to remove it by 6 local cops. Because "wearing that will incite panic and makes me look suspicious". So much for this shit being about our safety.
Get a grip dude. Voting by mail isn't any less secure than any other current method. If you are that worried about it, you can drop the sealed envelope in a collection box at the polling location instead of sending it through the mail. If you are worried about poll workers tampering with it, maybe pay more attention to who is elected as your local supervisor of elections.
Dead pets getting mail in vote ballots... check
Election workers "misplacing" republican mail in votes from the military.... check
Buckets of votes found when needed always for democrats....check
Election supervisors all funded by Soros... check
Requiring voting in person at least slows down the fraud and makes it a bit harder.
Yea. So this place just went full retard. Indoor Gyms are still closed...as are outdoor playgrounds....yet indoor playgrounds and zoos are open. Shit I went to Brussels last weekend and it was packed with people walking around with only a handful wearing masks. When I say packed, I mean like turning sideways to get through gaps between people downtown. Apparently they are threatening a 200-1000€ fine for not wearing a mask. I guess the command now says that all individuals must wear masks while at their desks/workplaces.
People fucking acting like it’s a weaponized strain of Ebola and street-stacking bodies at a 97.5% rate.
People fucking acting like it’s a weaponized strain of Ebola and street-stacking bodies at a 97.5% rate.
I have not heard any discussion of mandatory here, but if they do . . . I am going into the Tumbleweed Removal Business . . . 'cuz that is all we will have downtown.
(NOTE: We DO NOT have tumbleweeds in Southwest Iowa and I know that.)
Fuck off you commie bastard. All you do is spew commie propaganda. Don’t you have a statue to pull down.
Don't worry about him, probably on Facebook and Twitter.... thinking people like him and care what he says... LOL
So.........for the last hundred or so years that we have been dealing with the Flu Virus all we had to do was wear a mask ? Million and millions spent on research for a vaccine and all we had to do was wear a mask? Millions dead from the Flu and it all could have been prevented wearing a mask? Hard to believe huh ?
These videos are all propaganda. The disclaimer at the start of the video says" It dose NOT show movement of virus particles"
We have mandatory mask orders here and were closed. If mask work why do we need to be closed down.
I do the same thing here in NC.. the way I look at it the business needs to know they are losing money. and then it is there job to push back agenst the regs. if they want.. I am just giving them motivation. well in my mind.. they probably think I am an ass and will spit in my food. lol I know of 2 or 3 places I can go without a mask to eat. and continue to go there. and go as far as telling the places that is why I am there.
Althoe that is probably harder for you in Seattle.
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Slightly off topic but cool videos about tumbleweeds
Back on topic I have yet to wear a mask. Also pretty sure I had it back in early February after going to a very nice hot spring that isn't too far away (Krystal Hot Springs). Lots of Asians like to go there. I ain't getting checked cause now it seems like they are adding antigen test numbers to daily covid case numbers.
Mask is not 100% effective , might not be even 50% , but do you think vacines will be? Masks are one of the few measures that can be taken to reduce the spread of COVID19 while minimally hindering everyday life and business.
I guess you prefer the lock down, that is of course far more effective, you can play socialist experiments,but for how long can FED just print money pay all to sit around and country just continue to pile on debt so you can feel superior by not wearing a mask?
Masks have been used to fight epidemics for at least past 200years , vacines are not magic and by the time they are developed for covid19 it will already mutate enough for them to be only partially effective not to mention most folks will not vaccinate then vaccine effectiveness is further reduced.
Bunch of 'communists' wearing masks back in the days of Spanish Flue
You really believe these doctored “statistics” are real and this really is a pandemic? At such a low death rate, even with hyper inflated statistics and media?
shadow graphs are only able to show density differences.
they do not show particle movement
you’re mainly seeing heat, not droplets.
It does what it's told or else it gets the hose again.
It's a symbol of fear and ignorance, a sign that the US Constitution is dead.
The Gov is your lord and master...how dare you defy them.
A sub shop I have been going to for 35 years told me the city threatened to close them if they serve people with out mask's. So they told me they could not serve me again without one. So now I don't go there.
A sub shop I have been going to for 35 years told me the city threatened to close them if they serve people with out mask's. So they told me they could not serve me again without one. So now I don't go there.
There are a bunch of others , google Oral Fluid Droplets with Laser Light Scattering , in any case you can not prove anything to some , jet some of these same folks blindly believe into fairytales from a 2000y old comic book.
For me masks are no big deal have been using them for work for decades . so carrying one 10-30 minutes a day while i go get supplies is a nothing burger, but yes you can make an elephant out of anything. Sit on your porch while you wait for lockdowns to end get your a PPP that you will end up paying in full and then some, sometime down the line .
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You speak as though the government has your best interest at heart. You are speaking as if wearing masks will be the deciding factor for locking down states. You lack the ability to think logically, critically, and rationally. States locked down previously when deaths were in double digits. Why? Texas is considering lockdowns again with less than a .5% infection rate. 40% of those are from nursing homes.
Cloth masks do nothing and have been recommended against by every major health organization until now. Wonder why? The WHO’s reasoning for wearing a mask are all psychological. They say people will feel like they are doing something. People will feel like they are part of a group. Mandatory mask use will reduce the stigma of others who want to wear masks. The lists goes on. Its sick propaganda.
Another argument about a hypothetical person and
hypothetical potential harm.
If they are out in public when do they start taking responsibility for their
risks?
A catch 22 to confuse the dense.
I quit counting the contradictions in guidelines and practices.
Called it months ago, some are a bit slow on the uptake.
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hypothetical potential harm.
If they are out in public when do they start taking responsibility for their
risks?
A catch 22 to confuse the dense.
I quit counting the contradictions in guidelines and practices.
Called it months ago, some are a bit slow on the uptake.
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yes, and none are able to detect particles as small as viruses
Average corona virus is only 60-140nm
so unless you're using an x-ray laser, you're not capturing anything worth while
masks are not going to stop or slow anything.
unless we are using full on respirators
it's like trying to stop HIV/AIDS with a paper condom
Mask is not 100% effective , might not be even 50% , but do you think vacines will be? Masks are one of the few measures that can be taken to reduce the spread of COVID19 while minimally hindering everyday life and business.
I guess you prefer the lock down, that is of course far more effective, you can play socialist experiments,but for how long can FED just print money pay all to sit around and country just continue to pile on debt so you can feel superior by not wearing a mask?
Masks have been used to fight epidemics for at least past 200years , vacines are not magic and by the time they are developed for covid19 it will already mutate enough for them to be only partially effective not to mention most folks will not vaccinate then vaccine effectiveness is further reduced.
Bunch of 'communists' wearing masks back in the days of Spanish Flue
A mask is 0% effective. I can't spread a virus I don't have. If masks were effective we would have mandatory mask orders for the last hundred years. If masks were effective respiratory viruses wouldn't exist.
Everyone should go back to work. If you believe you are in a higher risk category, stay home. If you are a pussy, stay home. If it makes you feel better wear your mask, live in a delusional state believing you are saving others.
If you think I should wear a mask , to prevent the spread of a virus I don't have, I would offer my congratulations to you. Your indoctrination is complete.
The Gov is your lord and master...how dare you defy them.
A sub shop I have been going to for 35 years told me the city threatened to close them if they serve people with out mask's. So they told me they could not serve me again without one. So now I don't go there.
City will close them if customers don't wear masks.
They agreed and won't serve customers not wearing masks.
Some customers don't want to wear a mask and stop buying from store.
Store loses enough customers and goes out of business.
Yep, store is closed.
Who is to blame: City (threats to close), Store (follows city "guidelines"), Customer (spends their money where they want)?
City gets my vote. Funny because at the time I told him "seems city will do anything to kill your business" He kind of got a it sucks look on his face. I wonder, is this what tyranny looks like?
I doubt they will close and I will return when sanity prevails. I don't blame them. But I have drawn my line on this issue and I will maintain it even when it hurts a bit.
I doubt they will close and I will return when sanity prevails. I don't blame them. But I have drawn my line on this issue and I will maintain it even when it hurts a bit.
Well, everybody loses. The .gov strangles everyone that feeds them. Not necessarily a bad thing.
No sympathy for those businesses that roll over and not only will not fight for their rights, but willingly throw their customers under the bus in the process. All in the name of "keeping their business/liquor license". Fuck them. I'll go somewhere else. Walked out of a pussified restaurant just last night for that very reason.
I think a lot of people aren’t viewing this from the small business owner perspective. They are in a real shitty spot. It’s either lose everything they worked for and become unable to provide for their families, or they refuse service to those who won’t comply with the government mandate. I hate the mask shit as much as anyone, but if it’s between my family suffering or not serving a dude who refuses to abide by the mandate, the dude is going to lose.
The problem lies with the policy makers, not the business owners that are forced to comply. Now if masks aren’t mandatory and a business decides they want to make customers wear masks, then they have the right to do so just as much as a person has the right to walk back out the door. If it isn’t mandated by the government and you do t want to wear a mask, then only go to those places that don’t require masks. Too easy. But if it’s mandated, you have to work to change the laws/policies, or it won’t change.
The problem lies with the policy makers, not the business owners that are forced to comply. Now if masks aren’t mandatory and a business decides they want to make customers wear masks, then they have the right to do so just as much as a person has the right to walk back out the door. If it isn’t mandated by the government and you do t want to wear a mask, then only go to those places that don’t require masks. Too easy. But if it’s mandated, you have to work to change the laws/policies, or it won’t change.
Come one seriously, your argument is if they could prevent respiratory viruses they would be mandatory. Only to then smart ass about wearing masks. And yes they are now mandatory in many countries when in public .
Even if virus size is smaller than most masks can filter, that doesn't mean your breathing discharge range and volume is not considerably reduced.
Most folks with corona don't know they have it ,as for many it passes without symptoms. So feeling smug about the absolute certainty of you not having it is just ignorant.
If masks would not work at all, your doctor would be operating on you without one.
Simple surgical masks for droplet transmitted infections (Influenza..)and mouth borne germs, and respirators for airborne transmitted ones (Tuberculosis ,Measles etc)
Healthcare workers have been using cloth masks working with patients for protection from various respiratory infections diphtheria, scarlet fever, measles, pandemic influenza, pneumonic plague ,tuberculosis ............... for at least past 150+ years ,masks have been mandated mandatory to some degree with every epidemic or pandemic in the past, so 'placebo masks' maybe they are tin foil hat stuff but sure are having a long run.
https://academic.oup.com/jid/article/201/4/491/861190
In the end of the day , mental masturbation in regards to kung-flu and lockdowns is still ongoing in US and seems like it will continue for foreseeable future while economy winds down, at the same time most of the developed world has been out of lockdowns for a while now, if you wish, playing around with certain restrictions and 'placebo masks' . In the end that is what matters ,how well you can continue business and everyday life.
* i do understand that US is specific as kung flu wrecking the economy is just about the only way for an incumbent president to loose the election so there is much more politics involved than elsewhere.
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Most folks with corona don't know they have it ,as for many it passes without symptoms.
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THAT right there is the money quote......
Such a deadly virus that most get it and don't even know it......
But wait, let's freak the entire world out about it.....
Perhaps the stupid lockdowns were the worst thing ever & we could have had much the same results with just asking people to pretty please wear some face mask if they wouldn't mind, and like wash their hands lots and like not be all in each others faces?......
Most folks with corona don't know they have it ,as for many it passes without symptoms.
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THAT right there is the money quote......
Such a deadly virus that most get it and don't even know it......
But wait, let's freak the entire world out about it.....
Perhaps the stupid lockdowns were the worst thing ever & we could have had much the same results with just asking people to pretty please wear some face mask if they wouldn't mind, and like wash their hands lots and like not be all in each others faces?......
Lockdowns were disproportionate to the threat covid19 presented. Some like Sweden never had any , some of us only had short ones but even the short ones cost lots of $$$. Of course, lockdowns worked, we went down to 0 new infections per day, till the borders reopened, but by now just about every government knows they can't afford another lockdown so host of less invasive measures are now in play , masks in businesses, shops, public spaces have been mandatory for about a month following lockdowns then relaxed, a month later reintroduced as mandatory till further notice as 'second' wave of infections kicked of with 'guest workers' returning from abroad. But like said even each if measure alone has a minor effect it adda up ans it seems to work ,and impact one everyday life is minimal, you just carry a mask or two in the car , and wear it for a short while when needed.
Didnt the medical community just recently state that asymptomatic persons are unable to spread the virus?
So why the worry?
Keep gobbling the .gov's cock....because they have been right about everything so far.
So why the worry?
Keep gobbling the .gov's cock....because they have been right about everything so far.
Doctors, Nurses and hospital staff wear masks and they still get the virus.
I have been tested. I don't have the virus. Again, I can't spread a virus I don't have.
Mask proponents believe that they are better than others because they are more fearful than others. Fear has replaced virtue in the pro mask crowd.
Mask proponents go around looking for ways looking for ways to spread fear because it makes them feel better about themself.
A few year back a co worker had TB. Health department shows up at work and everyone was tested. Everyone tested negative . Health department said nothing about wearing masks.
One other observation about the virus: I live in a mandatory mask state. I don't see any Bio Hazard waste disposal bins . If the virus is so deadly shouldn't the contaminated mask be disposed of properly?
Bullshit as always. There has never been “0 new infections per day” during the lockdowns. The virus spread like wildfires and the death rate was at the highest during the lockdown. Coumo admitted on live TV that the deaths in NY were coming from inside the home and not from the essential workers or the homeless population that was out and about. The WHO publicly said that the virus is spreading inside the home and brought up testing people inside the home and removing the sick (i would kill them myself if they tried that).
Governments do not have your interest at heart. The politicians never have. Government has killed hundreds of millions of people and will continue to do so. How naive you must be.
Cloth masks do not work. Face shields alone are recommended over cloth masks in a healthcare setting to protect against respiratory illnesses per the WHO. The CDC recommends cloth masks for health care workers over face shields. These are absolutely last resorts as respirators and not even medical masks are recommended to protect against respiratory illnesses. I have spent hours pouring over medical studies. Many linked from the CDC and WHO website. There is no study ever conducted of cloth mask use for the general public. All studies of healthcare workers warn against them as completely insufficient.
Stop spewing commie bullshit.
This study looks terrible from what I can see. First let's set aside how small the sample size is for participants measured. They aren't testing for actual types of viruses but instead looking at mostly subjective symptoms. If you take the one nearly objective data point, which is temperature, the difference between groups is flat. They also list it as feverish/feverishness , which they don't give a temperature threshold to cross into that category. Either way their posted results are a wash in this category.
They cough data could be from other sources. Allergies, dust, screaming at a concert etc. Body aches could be from poor posture, working out, moving across town etc.
They also should have done a 4th group, hand hygiene no mask. Overall it looks like a mess of a trial.
That's actually what I was doing today... I feel better about it now because I got in my blue lives matter / thin blue line bandana masks so I can be "compliant" while enraging those that don't matter..... Protesting and doing malicious compliance is almost as good as full on resisting....
I am having a tough time keeping up with the current "guidelines".
Are handkerchiefs/bandanas still OK, cuz I always carry one of those in my back pocket?
It is red so I can use it as a "flag" in case I am hauling something long that needs a flag. I have been doing that for 40 years or so - never thought it might be helpful during The Apocalypse.
From what I can understand pretty much everywhere, as long as you are "submitting" by wearing the mask, it pretty much doesn't matter what kind of mask or if it works or anything.
As long as you are signaling to the overlords that you are an obedient sheep and covering your face according to their religious decree, you are good.
Also apparently the Karens are okay as long as you are wearing a mask, even if it's a bandana that isn't going over your nose...
I bet you could be fine with a cheese straining cloth or for that matter a paper towel or a big bunch of toilet paper hanging in front of your face.
Just because the
We had 0 new infections post lockdown for 7-10 days and otherwise mostly in single digits till borders reopened, now we are seeing a slight resurgence with a couple of days in the 30s but now back to 15-20 new infected per day. Highest death rates we had just before the lockdown or mid lockdown as it killed folks in retirement homes.
You waited in lockdown for your commie handout check and in line at the foodbank , honestly, at present, its seems communism is mostly alive and well in US of A ,rest of the world ditched last remnants of it decades ago ,Nancy & Mitch make even CCP look bad in terms of freshly printed money being thrown around.
I am sure Germans could lend you some tooling for statues of Lenin to replace the statues you tore down
, i we heard they just made some new ones.
Damned ironic after living under the protection the USA has proivided all the euro cucks.Just because theJewtropolisNY sucked Kung flu dick doesn't mean others did as well.
We had 0 new infections post lockdown for 7-10 days and otherwise mostly in single digits till borders reopened, now we are seeing a slight resurgence with a couple of days in the 30s but now back to 15-20 new infected per day. Highest death rates we had just before the lockdown or mid lockdown as it killed folks in retirement homes.
You waited in lockdown for your commie handout check and in line at the foodbank , honestly, at present, its seems communism is mostly alive and well in US of A ,rest of the world ditched last remnants of it decades ago ,Nancy & Mitch make even CCP look bad in terms of freshly printed money being thrown around.
I am sure Germans could lend you some tooling for statues of Lenin to replace the statues you tore down
Something about glass houses and 3rd world savages visiting...
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If masks work, why not just open everything back up and mandate masks and get back to living?
When I wear a mask in public, or decline an invitation to a party or to come inside, I want you to know that:
I am educated enough to know that I could be asymptomatic and still give you the virus.
No, I don’t “live in fear” of the virus; I just want to be part of the solution, not the problem.
I don’t feel like the “government is controlling me;” I feel like I’m being a contributing adult to society and I want to teach others the same.
The world doesn’t revolve around me. It’s not all about me and my comfort.
If we all could live with other people's consideration in mind, this whole world would be a much better place.
Wearing a mask doesn’t make me weak, scared, stupid, or even “controlled.” It makes me considerate.
When you think about how you look, how uncomfortable it is, or what others think of you, just imagine someone close to you - a child, a father, a mother, grandparent, aunt, or uncle - choking on a respirator , alone without you or any family member allowed at bedside.
Ask yourself if you could have sucked it up. Was it worth the risk?
Do you feel the same? Copy and re-post.
I am educated enough to know that I could be asymptomatic and still give you the virus. No, I don’t “live in fear” of the virus; I just want to be part of the solution, not the problem. I don’t feel like the “government is controlling me;” I feel like I’m being a contributing adult to society and I want to teach others the same. The world doesn’t revolve around me. It’s not all about me and my comfort. If we all could live with other people's consideration in mind, this whole world would be a much better place. Wearing a mask doesn’t make me weak, scared, stupid, or even “controlled.” It makes me considerate.When you think about how you look, how uncomfortable it is, or what others think of you, just imagine someone close to you - a child, a father, a mother, grandparent, aunt, or uncle - choking on a respirator , alone without you or any family member allowed at bedside.
Ask yourself if you could have sucked it up. Was it worth the risk?
Do you feel the same? Copy and re-post.
If you have to wear one ya might as well have some fun.....
