It's not a $#*&@^#$ sniper rifle

#101
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Holy thread from the dead batman. . .

But since it's been regurgitated, I had to tell my dad the same thing when I first showed him my 10FCP. I'm not a sniper, and pray like hell none of us ever have to use ours as such. I have the utmost respect for those who are, probably more so than anyone else in fact.

At the same time, I wouldn't have got upset about it. I'd have grin and beared it, and just politely explained it instead of snapping. Especially if the person was someone who could ultimately get me removed from the range . . .
 
#104
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Yes kudos for using the search.

If you buy a built huge rock crawling jeep, but you just drive it to work and around town and someone says "Hey nice rock crawler" are you going to get pissed at them and tell them it's just a "car" it's not a "rock crawler" because you just drive it around town? The same is true here, shooters may not like other people thinking of these guns as sniper rifles, but frankly, that's their intended use, accept it, and get over it.

These rifles, the 700P included, were/are designed and build for law enforcement/military use, so are most of the picatinny accessories, mildot scopes, matte black toys, etc. etc. we all love. You can't blame someone for calling it a sniper rifle when that was the intended purpose and marketing for it. You can use it hunting rabbits and shooting competition all you want, but you don't see the remington 700P, AIAW, TRG etc. etc. marketed as a hunting rifle or a competition rifle, I don't see any ads from remington trying to sell the 700P as a target gun, nothing on the sako page about using the TRG for target shooting. I can use a 700P as a trap gun, doesn't mean anyone is going to think it's really a trap gun.

Sure they are the standard in TACTICAL matches, but I'd be willing to bet some of the purpose designed and marketed target rifles would fair just as well or better in a lot of those matches as well.

If you don't want people thinking of you and your gear as tactical/sniper gear then don't buy all the gear that's specifically designed and marketed for that purpose, simple.
 
#105
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: oneeyedmac</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Webster's:

tac·ti·cal
Pronunciation: \&#712;tak-ti-k&#601;l\
Function: adjective
Date: 1570
1: of or relating to combat tactics: as a (1): of or occurring at the battlefront <a tactical defense> <a tactical first strike> (2): using or being weapons or forces employed at the battlefront <tactical missiles> bof an air force : of, relating to, or designed for air attack in close support of friendly ground forces
2 a: of or relating to tactics: as (1): of or relating to small-scale actions serving a larger purpose (2): made or carried out with only a limited or immediate end in view b: adroit in planning or maneuvering to accomplish a purpose



You'll notice this says nothing about the style of anything. You can't take a tactical rifle hunting because once it's purpose changes it's definition changes, you can't take a hunting rifle to war because once it's role changes it's definition changes.

Mark my words, we are screwing ourselves throwing the word tactical around the way we do. The libs will simply have to ban anything tactical and will use our own defintion of the word, not the webster's definition.

I'm a sport shooter and a hunter therefore I posses no tactical weapons.
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Good explanation, i tell people the rifles i build are hunting/ match grade. I never call them weapons or sniper rifles. leave that for military and cops.
 
#106
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Training Wheels</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Give the noob some credit, he had to be using the search function to find this dinosaur thread.</div></div>

I really like the fact that he called the OP out for something he wrote two and a half years ago... and BTW, the OP hasn't posted on the Hide in over a year.

I need to look through my posts and call myself out for stupid crap I posted a couple of years ago.
 
#110
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Switchblade</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I just tell them mine are long range competition rifles and I am a Marksman. Of course when I walk downrange to check my targets, the AR or Benelli are slung. No way in this AO am I walking 300 - 400 yards from a few grand in rifles without being able to, well, you get the idea. Paranoid? Maybe. Making it obvious that I am securing my weapons, even at range? Definitely.</div></div>

OMG!! I thought I was the only one that did that. Hell yeah I carry out on the range. I shoot at a place that is open to the public and guys come down and just sit there watching most of the time and I am not shooting at the 50yard line, I'm having to go down to 500 at times and it just makes me want to puke to know that if I look away for just the right amount of time I am screwed. Now I have been just putting my rifle in the truck with me and leaving my stuff on the ground. I get funny looks but fuck'm.
 
#111
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jAXDIALATION</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Why did you -even- need to react to these comments. Who frankly gives a flying f&*k what a range officer says about their rifle?
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Why did you -even- need to bring this back from the dead?
 
#116
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A) None of my rifles ever have been, and ever (I hope...) will be sniper rifles. I'm no sniper, end of rant.

B) Carlos Hathcock used a .30-'06 hunting rifle purchased from the Base Exchange.

The important thing about a thing is not its name, it's about its purpose.

Greg
 
#117
Re: It's not a $#*&@^#$ sniper rifle

-Why- are you reading it?
-WHY- are you posting a response?

When you go to book stores do you struggle with reading every book you see? NOPE you pass on by the ones with no interest. Try it.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TerrorInTheShadows</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jAXDIALATION</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Why did you -even- need to react to these comments. Who frankly gives a flying f&*k what a range officer says about their rifle?
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Why did you -even- need to bring this back from the dead? </div></div>
 
#118
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ToddM</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If you buy a built huge rock crawling jeep, but you just drive it to work and around town and someone says "Hey nice rock crawler" are you going to get pissed at them and tell them it's just a "car" it's not a "rock crawler" because you just drive it around town? The same is true here, shooters may not like other people thinking of these guns as sniper rifles, but frankly, that's their intended use, accept it, and get over it.</div></div>

Great comparison, but you veered off at the end.

If the Jeep was built and designed to crawl over rocks, then indeed it should be referred to as a "rock crawler". The description is correct as to the purpose of the vehicle no matter if that purpose is unrealized.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">These rifles, the 700P included, were/are designed and build for law enforcement/military use</div></div>

Actually VERY FEW of these rifles are designed and built for LE/Mil use. The vast majority of the high dollar custom rifles on this board are built for glorified target shooting. This can be seen when you really stop and look at the features and the marketing versus what a professional Sniper actually needs.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">so are most of the picatinny accessories, mildot scopes, matte black toys, etc. etc. we all love.</div></div>

Most of the accessories you mention are also made as "toys". When something that was designed for warfighters hit's the market you generally hear a massive amount of bitching about how much it costs and doesn't sell real well until a "cheap" version appears. For verification on that you just have to look at the volume of copies from China sold here.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You can't blame someone for calling it a sniper rifle when that was the intended purpose and marketing for it.</div></div>

It's simple ignorance. The intended purpose of 90% of what I see called "Sniper Rifles" are toys that are intended to resemble them. A good example would be a Mossberg ATR Nighttrain. It was desinged and intended to look like a Sniper rifle. If anyone involved in it's development actually intended an American to carry that POS to war, they should be hung. However it gets called a "Sniper Rifle" in every gunshop it appears in.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You can use it hunting rabbits and shooting competition all you want, but you don't see the remington 700P, AIAW, TRG etc. etc. marketed as a hunting rifle or a competition rifle, I don't see any ads from remington trying to sell the 700P as a target gun, nothing on the sako page about using the TRG for target shooting. </div></div>

The 700 has been a hunting rifle for long before it was used to hunt humans. The 700P is the "tactical" version of it and marketed as being specifically designed for hunting humans. As well as the fact that they ARE specifically used across the country for hunting humans by SNIPERS. Hence in every aspect of the definition, it is a Sniper Rifle.

All of AI's rifles were designed from the ground up with the express purpose of being used by professionals to hunt humans. Hence they qualify as a Sniper Rifle.

I don't know a whole lot about the TRG line and exactly what the development process was. I do believe they also were designed specifically with Military purposes in mind.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If you don't want people thinking of you and your gear as tactical/sniper gear then don't buy all the gear that's specifically designed and marketed for that purpose, simple.
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If it was specifically designed as such, I have no problem with it. However most of the time that is simply not the case.

My definition is simple. It's a Sniper Rifle if it was:

a. Designed and manufactured with the intended purpose of being used by Military or Law Enforcement Professionals for hunting people.

b. Pressed into service by a professional Sniper.

I.E. the Winchester Model 70 was not designed as a Sniper Rifle. However I don't think anyone would argue that the rifle carried by GySgt. Carlos Hathcock USMC in Vietnam doesn't qualify as a Sniper Rifle (because it's a Sniper's Rifle). In the converse sense, Joe the Accountant can go to Bud's Guns and buy a brand new Accuracy International AW. The rifle was designed for one purpose and one purpose only. Even though Joe will only kill paper with it, it's still a Sniper Rifle. (it's just not a Sniper's Rifle)

In the end, call it what you want. That doesn't preclude me from calling you a Dumbass if you use the wrong terminology.
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#119
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LoneWolfUSMC</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ToddM</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If you buy a built huge rock crawling jeep, but you just drive it to work and around town and someone says "Hey nice rock crawler" are you going to get pissed at them and tell them it's just a "car" it's not a "rock crawler" because you just drive it around town? The same is true here, shooters may not like other people thinking of these guns as sniper rifles, but frankly, that's their intended use, accept it, and get over it.</div></div>

Great comparison, but you veered off at the end.

If the Jeep was built and designed to crawl over rocks, then indeed it should be referred to as a "rock crawler". The description is correct as to the purpose of the vehicle no matter if that purpose is unrealized.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">These rifles, the 700P included, were/are designed and build for law enforcement/military use</div></div>

Actually VERY FEW of these rifles are designed and built for LE/Mil use. The vast majority of the high dollar custom rifles on this board are built for glorified target shooting. This can be seen when you really stop and look at the features and the marketing versus what a professional Sniper actually needs.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">so are most of the picatinny accessories, mildot scopes, matte black toys, etc. etc. we all love.</div></div>

Most of the accessories you mention are also made as "toys". When something that was designed for warfighters hit's the market you generally hear a massive amount of bitching about how much it costs and doesn't sell real well until a "cheap" version appears. For verification on that you just have to look at the volume of copies from China sold here.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You can't blame someone for calling it a sniper rifle when that was the intended purpose and marketing for it.</div></div>

It's simple ignorance. The intended purpose of 90% of what I see called "Sniper Rifles" are toys that are intended to resemble them. A good example would be a Mossberg ATR Nighttrain. It was desinged and intended to look like a Sniper rifle. If anyone involved in it's development actually intended an American to carry that POS to war, they should be hung. However it gets called a "Sniper Rifle" in every gunshop it appears in.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You can use it hunting rabbits and shooting competition all you want, but you don't see the remington 700P, AIAW, TRG etc. etc. marketed as a hunting rifle or a competition rifle, I don't see any ads from remington trying to sell the 700P as a target gun, nothing on the sako page about using the TRG for target shooting. </div></div>

The 700 has been a hunting rifle for long before it was used to hunt humans. The 700P is the "tactical" version of it and marketed as being specifically designed for hunting humans. As well as the fact that they ARE specifically used across the country for hunting humans by SNIPERS. Hence in every aspect of the definition, it is a Sniper Rifle.

All of AI's rifles were designed from the ground up with the express purpose of being used by professionals to hunt humans. Hence they qualify as a Sniper Rifle.

I don't know a whole lot about the TRG line and exactly what the development process was. I do believe they also were designed specifically with Military purposes in mind.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If you don't want people thinking of you and your gear as tactical/sniper gear then don't buy all the gear that's specifically designed and marketed for that purpose, simple.
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If it was specifically designed as such, I have no problem with it. However most of the time that is simply not the case.

My definition is simple. It's a Sniper Rifle if it was:

a. Designed and manufactured with the intended purpose of being used by Military or Law Enforcement Professionals for hunting people.

b. Pressed into service by a professional Sniper.

I.E. the Winchester Model 70 was not designed as a Sniper Rifle. However I don't think anyone would argue that the rifle carried by GySgt. Carlos Hathcock USMC in Vietnam doesn't qualify as a Sniper Rifle (because it's a Sniper's Rifle). In the converse sense, Joe the Accountant can go to Bud's Guns and buy a brand new Accuracy International AW. The rifle was designed for one purpose and one purpose only. Even though Joe will only kill paper with it, it's still a Sniper Rifle. (it's just not a Sniper's Rifle)

In the end, call it what you want. That doesn't preclude me from calling you a Dumbass if you use the wrong terminology.
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I'd append your post to my signature line, but I think Frank would have a fit.
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As you said earlier, there's better things in life to worry about than names. People who hate guns will always hate them even if Remington undergoes a complete rebranding process and changes them to the "Remington M700 Celebratory Noisemaker". Changing the name just means it takes them a few extra moments to catch on.
 
#121
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: REM700MAN</div><div class="ubbcode-body">have had my fair share of people walking up and thinking its a "sniper rifle, 50 BMG (its a .308), or that I had to be active military to own it". I just laugh it off and enjoy the rest of my day. No reason to get all upset over the ignorance of others.
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Yeah, Mike I can see why they would think .50cal. That barrel is like a scaffolding pipe!!

PS people, if Mike was any more laid back, he would be horizontal.

Neil
 
#122
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Personally I use the term precision instead of sniper for the same reason I don't like using the term "assault". It brings up negative connotations in the minds of the uninformed.

But for those on here that are so sensitive to the word "sniper", why aren't you lobbying to get the name of this site changed? How can you hang out on a site called "snipershide" if you aren't a sniper? You can post pictures of your rifle on a site called sniper's hide, but if someone says "nice sniper rifle dude!" you wig out? Seems kinda juvenile to let such a simple thing ruffle the feathers so...
 
#123
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Desert-Rat</div><div class="ubbcode-body">BUMP! Nice pattern!!! I do finishes as well and this one is really nice!!!

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WTF over?
 
#124
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LRS_Ranger</div><div class="ubbcode-body">But for those on here that are so sensitive to the word "sniper", why aren't you lobbying to get the name of this site changed?</div></div>

Because the person who started this side is indeed a former Military Sniper. It seems rather appropriate that he would call his website "Sniper's Hide".

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">How can you hang out on a site called "snipershide" if you aren't a sniper?</div></div>

I can't answer that personally. I ended up on the site originally due to a discussion about Mils. To which I believe I was proven wrong by Lindy who IIRC is not a military or law enforcement Sniper. It's amazing what you can learn from civilians who are smarter than you.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You can post pictures of your rifle on a site called sniper's hide, but if someone says "nice sniper rifle dude!" you wig out? Seems kinda juvenile to let such a simple thing ruffle the feathers so... </div></div>

Weather you think it's juvenile or not, if you use the wrong term I will call you out on it. Gone are the days when I felt the need to suffer fools to prevent a confrontation.

Of course I circumvented the whole issue by buying a "Sniper Rifle" from Jonathan at SRT and now I don't have to correct people when they call it such.
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#125
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Most of the advances in military and L.E. sniper technology came from civilians.

Heck, the Accuracy International rifles, certainly the perfect example of a sniper rifle - in use by military and L.E. snipers in something like 40 countries - were designed by Malcolm Cooper, who was an Olympic rifle competitor.

Virtually all advances in cartridge design and loading techniques have come from civilian benchrest shooters.

And military and L.E. snipers are pleased to take advantage of the fine instruction offered to them at some marksmanship schools run by civilians.

I don't care what anyone calls my rifle. If they call me a sniper, though, I shall very politely correct their terminology...
 
#126
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: HasgunWilltravel</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Here is the ultimate answer to the Sniper Rifle term in Question.

Hunting rifles are for hunting animals, paper, plinking, etc.

Sniper Rifles are for hunting people, thats it.

Next question.

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I like this response..

Only a rifle that a real life sniper by trade uses to pursue human targets is a sniper rifle. Hell, in my opinion there is no such thing as a "sniper rifle" as a build type. The rifle is a tactical type rifle that if ever in the possesion & use of a SNIPER can then be called a SNIPER rifle.
 
#127
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Kahlendrrari</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Alright, I went to the range the other day, and i guess they have a new range officer, but during the hour and a half that i was there he came up to me no less than 6 time saying "hey that's a nice sniper rifle". now I don't know about any of you guys but do you consider any of your rifles "sniper rifles". i know full and damn well that my remington 700p, even though it has the "P" designator in the name is no sniper rifle. I mean is the bandwagon so large that any scope rifle is considered a "sniper rifle". Should i also add that in no way shape or form would i ever have the balls to call my self a sniper, just because i know those guys go through alot to EARN that name. finally the last time he repeated himself I stopped in mid Aim and told him "it's not a sniper rifle, it's a tactical precision long-range shooting instrument" and he kind of flinched at every word, but it shut him up. I know that I'm not the only one that thinks this way </div></div>

Because of things like this at the range I shoot at I have literally become the most anti-social person behind a rifle. I am not rude to anyone by any means but I really have a hard time listening to dumb shit & I absolutely refuse to debate anyone when it comes to firearms/hunting.
 
#136
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Lindy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Simo Hayha wacked over 500 Russians using a Mosin-Nagant with iron sights and a Suomi K31 submachine gun. There isn't any doubt that he was a sniper.
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krylon wasn't invented quite yet.....in the stepp
 
#138
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TerrorInTheShadows</div><div class="ubbcode-body">"-WHY- are you posting a response?"
Congratulations on becoming a hypocrite </div></div>

I was a hypocrite long before this.
 
#140
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Training Wheels</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Why are you guys still beating this dead horse? </div></div>

Practice makes perfect right?

I have found that beating a dead horse is a great way to train for the alive horses that need beating to death!
 
#142
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i'm lookin to build a sniper rifle, I have a marlin 30/30 to start with, what brand of scope is best for sniper rifles? What powder is best for reloading for it when complete? whats a better ring setup, badger, larue or NF? whats the best suppressor for a 30/30? whats the best drop in trigger for a marlin? what colors of krylon do i need to paint it? do I need to bed the stock? will burlap make my 30/30 sniper rifle miss bad guys after I zeroed it at 4 feet? what drag bag fits my 30/30 sniper rifle the best but is also a sleeping bag and shooting mat/survival tent? whats better atlas or harris for my sniper rifle and how do i mount either to a marlin 30/30? where do i mount my green beam laser?

sorry for all the questions but I'm new here but have been "lurking" for well over 100 years but have never seen these questions before come up so if yall could answer it would be super awsome...


oh and my sniper rifle is mainly gonna be used for shooting pop cans in my backyard
 
#143
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Lindy</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">...dead horse?</div></div>

Dead horses sometimes need to be beaten. Why are you still reading the thread?
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my job.....
 
#144
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: VAJayJayPunisher</div><div class="ubbcode-body">i'm lookin to build a sniper rifle, I have a marlin 30/30 to start with, what brand of scope is best for sniper rifles? What powder is best for reloading for it when complete? whats a better ring setup, badger, larue or NF? whats the best suppressor for a 30/30? whats the best drop in trigger for a marlin? what colors of krylon do i need to paint it? do I need to bed the stock? will burlap make my 30/30 sniper rifle miss bad guys after I zeroed it at 4 feet? what drag bag fits my 30/30 sniper rifle the best but is also a sleeping bag and shooting mat/survival tent? whats better atlas or harris for my sniper rifle and how do i mount either to a marlin 30/30? where do i mount my green beam laser?

sorry for all the questions but I'm new here but have been "lurking" for well over 100 years but have never seen these questions before come up so if yall could answer it would be super awsome...


oh and my sniper rifle is mainly gonna be used for shooting pop cans in my backyard</div></div>




dude....what you got there is a repeater.......or what we call a east Texas assault rifle......its in a whole different class of their own.
 
#145
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BOLTRIPPER</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: VAJayJayPunisher</div><div class="ubbcode-body">i'm lookin to build a sniper rifle, I have a marlin 30/30 to start with, what brand of scope is best for sniper rifles? What powder is best for reloading for it when complete? whats a better ring setup, badger, larue or NF? whats the best suppressor for a 30/30? whats the best drop in trigger for a marlin? what colors of krylon do i need to paint it? do I need to bed the stock? will burlap make my 30/30 sniper rifle miss bad guys after I zeroed it at 4 feet? what drag bag fits my 30/30 sniper rifle the best but is also a sleeping bag and shooting mat/survival tent? whats better atlas or harris for my sniper rifle and how do i mount either to a marlin 30/30? where do i mount my green beam laser?

sorry for all the questions but I'm new here but have been "lurking" for well over 100 years but have never seen these questions before come up so if yall could answer it would be super awsome...


oh and my sniper rifle is mainly gonna be used for shooting pop cans in my backyard</div></div>




dude....what you got there is a repeater.......or what we call a east Texas assault rifle......its in a whole different class of their own.</div></div>

I'm already gestating a nefarious plan for pissing off the SASS crowd at our range...
 
#146
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Doesn't matter what gun you use, just make sure you have a counter sniper scope mounted up top and you'll never miss and the best part is they last forever. I'm not joking.
 
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