J.D Vance
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Maybe, but the number of people who suspect fraud in 2020 has risen from about 35% to almost 50% in the ensuing years. If half the people suspect fraud it's going to be a lot harder to get away with it.
Laura Trump isn't playing according to the way she's running the RNC.
https://apnews.com/article/rnc-elec...-voter-fraud-997947656e0b5d5d16cc4353bd726452
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Laura Trump isn't playing according to the way she's running the RNC.
https://apnews.com/article/rnc-elec...-voter-fraud-997947656e0b5d5d16cc4353bd726452
Election Integrity | Republican National Committee
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So, you are saying they are actually running Mike and not Kamala?
Someone needs to get that memo.
Wow, man, great comeback.
I spent an hour of my fun time writing a reply with facts an figures, but just deleted it. How about you show me what I lied about.
After all the burden of proof falls on you for making the accusation that I'm full of shit. Why should I spend the time to show you how I'm right when I already did the work, and know the answer.
Go for it!
Leftist generalities which I'm certain can be proven "mostly false", in particular the black employment and income levels under Trump.
You finished it off with a passive aggressive sarcastic jab. The entire post sounds like leftest talking points run through chatGPT to try to sound intelligent.
Here you go https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/LNS14000006
For the earnings, BLS has great data on that.
Regarding my replies, you'll get a better, more thought-out response if I'm sitting at my desk with nothing to do, compared to when I'm in a rush and trying to get things done. The worst type of reply you'll get is a quick mobile response, which will be full of spelling mistakes and sound like I'm drunk. I struggle to articulate my thoughts without a keyboard or pencil.
As for my original reply to you, I made two drafts but didn't feel the need to defend what I had said since you didn't actually counter it. On top of that, I doxed people I knew in my draft, which would be in poor taste.
But you just called it BS without any proof and tried labeling me a leftist because I don't want to suck the cock of an asshole and prefer reality over madeup numbers said at rallies or by some online influencer.
Edited to add: You seem to lack in the critical thinking department and simply listen without conducting proper due diligence. I wanted to ensure I concluded with the insult you seem to appreciate.
What other thing did Trump do great?
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Just finished the audiobook of Hillbilly Elegy. It is a VERY good read and I am most likely going to re-listen to it again very soon just like I do with the ebooks of all my favorite writers like H. Beam Piper and Robert Heinlein.
Let's look at the last several VPs.
Kamala Harris a cackling idiot that sucks dick
Mike Pence brought the religious right
Joe Biden was a guarantee to not remove the kenyan
Dick Cheney brought nothing for the people. A political tool
Al Gore couldn't even win his home state
Dan Quayle no one knows what he brought to the table.
Okay... a fucking tranny Weirdo telling us we is weird, well sure from these fucked up inthe head ass clown since it is very obvious.
To be fair, he did bring a different way of spelling potatos.
The only number that matters are people's take home adjusted for inflation. It's been wiped out by Bidenomics inflation. I don't know a single person who feels like they're making good money anymore. Yes, investments are up. That's not a person's personal economy.
I would rather you have used facts and figures to try and convince us all life was better under Biden than Trump. That's exactly what the left is doing, and it is failing spectacularly, because we aren't just reading the internet. We actually live here and now all shop at Aldi, because we can't afford $500 for a basket of groceries, and we don't want to pay $3 a gallon of gas, because it eliminates our disposable income. There isn't anymore disposable income. People are spending everything they earn just to live, and if you don't get that or think you're going to convince us otherwise all the better to make Kamala and whatever communist she picks go down in flames.
Consider the current regime has emptied the strategic reserve to keep the prices around the $3.30 mark and Trump had it topped off.
There's nothing I love more than for a Democrat to try and get me to disbelieve my own lyin' eyes. This discussion is no different than Biden being sharp as a tack before he suddenly wasn't. Ridiculous from unserious, ridiculous people who aren't capable of objectivity.
Hold on. We are dumping on Vance for his changing tune, but Owen's is inscrutable?
Identity politics donesnt matter. All the left was ever doing was trying to make the fraud look plausible. You can go back to 2008 and see Obama won 100% of the vote in some Georgia districts. I would also venture a guess that most inner city black folks don't vote but someone still casts votes for them.
Some people will exept any explanation from and "expert." They will steal it again. Just like in Venezeula. They will piss on everyone again and tell them it's raining.Maybe, but the number of people who suspect fraud in 2020 has risen from about 35% to almost 50% in the ensuing years. If half the people suspect fraud it's going to be a lot harder to get away with it.
Laura Trump isn't playing according to the way she's running the RNC.
https://apnews.com/article/rnc-elec...-voter-fraud-997947656e0b5d5d16cc4353bd726452
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Gomorrah was destroyed for such.
The discussion doesn’t even have to get into the details concerning the financial hardships of now vs. 2017-2020 to highlight the stark contrast between the conservatives & the debauchery that now makes up the Demons taking up space in the Democrat party.
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Non-Binary Biden Official Charged with Second Felony Suitcase Theft
Sam Brinton, a non-binary nuclear waste official in the Biden administration, is once again facing charges for attempting to steal luggage from an airport.
Gomorrah was destroyed for such.
It’s France.
I’m Not excusing their actions but seriously, the expectations weren’t high.
The clowns are focused on that mess, meanwhile their country is being turned over to those who will outlaw their lifestyle.
And then throw the clowns from the rooftops.
What's also missing from the analysis is not just what the economy is doing but how much fighting Trump had to endure to get anything done.
So, while Trump helped get rid of the personal mandate for health insurance, that did not fix anything. You get insurance through healthcare dot gov marketplace. You input your yearly non-adjusted salary. They give you a subsidy and you have your adjusted premium that you pay.
Then, when you file your income taxes, the IRS says that it appears that they overcompensated you on the subsidy and now you get to pay some more. Makes Bernie Madoff look like a choir boy.
The problem with big government is that there is too much of it.
Increases in government spending did not come from Reagan. They came from the demons, I mean democrats. Sometimes, you have to deal with the devil to get something else that you need.
Just like GW Bush gave Medicare D and then got his GWOT that he always wanted. (Not that simple, I know but he played the game to get along and crybaby Gore went away.)
So, while Trump helped get rid of the personal mandate for health insurance, that did not fix anything. You get insurance through healthcare dot gov marketplace. You input your yearly non-adjusted salary. They give you a subsidy and you have your adjusted premium that you pay.
Then, when you file your income taxes, the IRS says that it appears that they overcompensated you on the subsidy and now you get to pay some more. Makes Bernie Madoff look like a choir boy.
The problem with big government is that there is too much of it.
Increases in government spending did not come from Reagan. They came from the demons, I mean democrats. Sometimes, you have to deal with the devil to get something else that you need.
Just like GW Bush gave Medicare D and then got his GWOT that he always wanted. (Not that simple, I know but he played the game to get along and crybaby Gore went away.)
How well has “luring moderates” been working so far? There is no such thing as a “big tent”, especially now. The left does not apologize for its stances. “Moderates” are cognitively impaired or too weak to admit the reality we live in.
Definitely a common ancestor. Perhaps Native American? Pow Wow Chow anyone?
Interesting podcast about the globalist who propped Vance up. Beware
The Thiel-Verse with Stavroula Pabst
Whitney is joined by Unlimited Hangout contributor Stavroula Pabst to discuss Peter Thiel, the man behind Trump's VP pick J.D. Vance and the CIA-linked architect of key aspects of the technocratic surveillance state.
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I'm a moderate, and an independent voter. I vote for candidates based upon their view on issues of importance to me, and on my perception of their integrity and devotion to democracy. You say that makes me "weak". I believe the contrary, that compromise, focus on policy instead of dogma, and not allowing myself to be pigeon-holed into a forced set of beliefs ... is a strength. It's also a strength that I will defend to the death, your right to believe anything you want about me, irrespective of how uninformed those beliefs may be.
Obviously not. It's pretty telling how you are one of the only people here who is "informed" and at the same time on virtually every issue and policy yours mirror those of MSNBC, CNN, NBC, and the main stream media. I've never seen you post anything that wasn't in lockstep with the approved media and government opinions on any given topic. Yes, you can compartmentalize, and ignore or dismiss policies you don't like from Democrats, but you have been posting here long enough that we all know you are a Democrat and have nothing but opprobrium for DJT and any Republican. I would say you are either in complete denial because you believe every shred of misinformation that you ingest from the MSM, or you are simply a voter for your team and don't care how communist they have become (many openly) and how objectively bad their policies are for you personally and for our nation as a whole.
My wife votes Democrat. If you talked to her you would find she is conservative and a realist in just about every way, but she thinks Republicans are racists, and that unborn babies aren't human beings, so she votes left and pretty much ignores everything else. You seem to have the same complete cognitive dissonance that she has. I'm guessing you must be a woman, or really believe in critical race theory et. al.
I certainly don't agree with everything the Republican's do, especially the statist part of the party that is afraid to restore our Constitution. But there is no question that the ethos and logos are far more aligned with my beliefs and values than the Democrats, who really don't have any beliefs and values, and worship neutral concepts as a religion. They worship power, and you are merely an enabler.
My wife votes Democrat. If you talked to her you would find she is conservative and a realist in just about every way, but she thinks Republicans are racists, and that unborn babies aren't human beings, so she votes left and pretty much ignores everything else. You seem to have the same complete cognitive dissonance that she has. I'm guessing you must be a woman, or really believe in critical race theory et. al.
I certainly don't agree with everything the Republican's do, especially the statist part of the party that is afraid to restore our Constitution. But there is no question that the ethos and logos are far more aligned with my beliefs and values than the Democrats, who really don't have any beliefs and values, and worship neutral concepts as a religion. They worship power, and you are merely an enabler.
It is to your credit that you still believe in the system and the calm deliberate measured approach. My father is similar; he cannot fathom how depraved and evil the individuals and organizations are that oppose freedom in the western world.
I think historically looking back, the two largest destructive actions to kill America will be the huge level of government growth and unlimited spending and completely open borders allowing uncontrolled entry of terrorists and foreign military to fully infiltrate America.
This will be Biden's legacy.
This will be Biden's legacy.
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How to say that you are wishy-washy and not likely to make a stand without saying it.
You'd better be concerned about a candidate's dogma. Their dogma, comprises their faith, morals and ethics. Their dogma defines their world view, which determines the bigger part of their view of the USA and the policies they will enable that shape society. Lack of concern for politician's dogma and core beliefs are what has gotten us into the mess we have, now.
I realize this forum isn't a place where I'll see any tolerance for alternate perspectives, or even an attempt to understand the value of compromise and civil debate. I agree with you ... I should stick to the ballistics forums and realize that if I want introspection and tolerance, I should spend more time with my dogs ... LOL.
That said, I find the ballistics forums here are super helpful and I really enjoy exercising my 1st and 2nd Amendment rights here. THANK YOU to the people that created and manage this social network. It's been a big part of my journey to improve my tools and skills.
He said as he voted for people who are actively and openly attacking both our right to free speech and our right to bear arms. “Moderate” indeed.
I realize this forum isn't a place where I'll see any tolerance for alternate perspectives, or even an attempt to understand the value of compromise and civil debate. I agree with you ... I should stick to the ballistics forums and realize that if I want introspection and tolerance, I should spend more time with my dogs ... LOL.
Compromise and civil debates are what got us to where we are in this society.
Our side has only wanted to be left alone.
The other side wants what we have and insists that we compromise.
They have nothing to offer, they only want to take.
Compromise from us just means giving up more.
Man, ALL of us have different beliefs. However, we have a core set of beliefs that draw us together. I've jumped into a few threads to challenge and have been challenged. Don't take it personally. Keep your cool and defend your position logically, or at least be ready to discuss the source of your values. We give respect to those who conduct themselves in this manner and that includes modicum of tolerance. Don't be like the libs, who can't defend their beliefs and have a meltdown the second they are challenged with facts and logic.I realize this forum isn't a place where I'll see any tolerance for alternate perspectives, or even an attempt to understand the value of compromise and civil debate. I agree with you ... I should stick to the ballistics forums and realize that if I want introspection and tolerance, I should spend more time with my dogs ... LOL.
Did Trump tighten the lid on that dumb reporters water bottle when she wasn't looking? Dem's are crying about it. His water bottle is on the left.
His water bottle is on the left.
Teddy Roosevelt the trust buster? I wonder how he felt about trickle down economics. Leader of the Rough Riders charging up San Juan hill? I wonder if he had bunions. The man who was crushed by the death of his wife? I wonder how many porn stars he slept with.
If you want to ignore Trumps faults because of the good he does fine. But don’t compare him to Teddy. Teddy would have eaten him alive.
And how many times he was told that he looked like New York City Police Commissioner Reagan.
We all laugh at the leftists marching at whatever university but keep in mind those leftists would kill us all if they could figure out how to do it. It's not a matter of misinformation or they watch the wrong TV shows or listen to the wrong "facts", they really do hate and want to destroy everyone who isn't like them. The only reason they aren't doing it en masse right now is they don't have the numbers or the guts.
So what you’re telling us is that you believe what people running for office are saying. You actually believe what comes out of their mouth. Bro, this isn’t 5th grade anymore.
This shows that you have no real understanding of history or politics and just like to follow the crowd. I know T. R. is super popular among Trump fans right now, which is wild.
However, he was a progressive and would be more in line with AOC today than anyone on the right.
The GOP has embraced him mainly due to his love of hunting. In 1912, he advocated for socialized reform with the Bull Moose Party, a progressive party he created. He is one of the reasons we have Medicare and Medicaid today.
Roosevelt was also a strong advocate for corporate regulation, workers rights, environmental protections, preservation of natural resources, the FDA (he did create the agency, after all), higher taxes (he literally ran calling for a constitutional amendment for establishing income tax) for the wealthy through progressive tax reforms, civil rights, securities reform ( we would eventually get the SEC), along with other leftist policies, and including a big shocker for many, gun control.
He'd basically be considered a commie today by the right.
Conservatives hated the guy; this is why he left the Republican Party and formed the Bull Moose Party. It was his attempt to pursue a platform focused on the progressive social reforms he advocated for.
But, sure, idolize the guy as if he would be on the side of Trump, a man who embodies everything he was against.
Now show me one thing I've said above that isn't factual.
But it's moot, nobody cares about the actual facts, only how it makes them feel as if they're children still.
I lean left on a number of social issues, but T. R. is even too far left for me. I'm an absolutist when it comes to the 2A, and in favor of exploitation of the resources of this country among a many other things. Unlike Teddy.
Actually I do, and your exposition is completely misplaced. You are 100% correct, and I agree with everything you said. I was only talking about TR's larger than life persona, and his outsized use of the "bully pulpit". TR thought that his officers uniform wasn't spangley enough for him, so he designed his own bespoke uniform when he led The Rough Riders and crawled up San Juan Hill. That should tell you something about him. He did a couple of things right, but I would say they were for the wrong reasons. The one place I think you are mistaken is trying to project him into today. Totally different zeitgeist, different circumstances, and different country. You can't draw straight lines from then to now, because people thought very differently and held a lot of things to be true that we now know aren't. Much of his conservation efforts and his federal attacks on business were reactions to what was physically happening rather than came from deep seated political ideology. I think he was more practical than you give him credit for, but the moniker of Progressive (idiot) still fits.
Same thing goes for Andrew Jackson, one of the most viscous and worst Presidents of all time. Yet, he was definitely an outsider and "A man of the people". He had some truly terrible policies and was extremely narrow minded and stubborn, but he did share some characteristics with Trump. The biggest one is probably how hated he was in Washington DC, and how he never became part of it's culture and parasitic nature.
I was speaking very narrowly about TR; not broadly. We probably agree on more than you think.
