JAE vs AICS

[Yowie]

Hello fellow shooters,

I am upgrading my remington SPS stock to something with aluminium bedding and picatinny rail mountings.

I have narrowed it down to two stocks and want to know which is considered better.

The AICS 1.5 thumb hole stock or a JAE stock with the following dealer options which cannot be changed due to being in Australia.

BONUS FEATURES ON CLEAVER FIREARMS JAE STOCKS:
2 X SIDE PIC RAIL ADAPTERS
1 X PIC RAIL LEFT HAND SIDE 4"
1 X PIC RAIL RIGHT HAND SIDE 4"
1 X RAIL OFF HAND REST
1 X BOTTOM PIC RAIL 4"
1 X PALM REST
1 X RECOIL PAD
1 X QD ADJUSTABLE CHEEK REST

The JAE stock is $2190 and is in stock.
The AICS is $1600-$1700 with a 3 month wait.

What is the best stock and your views on either.


Cheers,
Josh

 

[Muldoon7]

I've never tried the jar but I hear it's very comfortable


I purchased a aics 1.5 and honestly can't say a single bad thing about them. Amazing stock and anyone who shoots my rifle says it's very comfortable. I just put on a pair of viperskins new small bolt hand skins and it has made the rifle perfect. The ergonomics are amazing now.

If you have the chance to get behind both try them. The thumb hole on the aics just wasn't for me after now trying the viperskins but that's not to say you can't still enjoy the gun. I shot mine for a year and half with no problem with the thumb hole but after trying the viperskins I can never go back. I have big hands so the large pistol grip and side thumb rests really made the rifle that much more comfortable.[/QUOTE]

 

[Hennig]

Before anyone points it out - yep, this is what they try to make us pay for shit in Aus.

Get behind both, I have a JAE700, and owned an AICS. The JAE just feels like more for the money, the machining, finish etc. The AICS is a block of metal with some plastic skins on it, but I still liked mine.

I wouldnt buy either of them at those prices though.

 

[Yowie]

I've never tried the jar but I hear it's very comfortable


I purchased a aics 1.5 and honestly can't say a single bad thing about them. Amazing stock and anyone who shoots my rifle says it's very comfortable. I just put on a pair of viperskins new small bolt hand skins and it has made the rifle perfect. The ergonomics are amazing now.

If you have the chance to get behind both try them. The thumb hole on the aics just wasn't for me after now trying the viperskins but that's not to say you can't still enjoy the gun. I shot mine for a year and half with no problem with the thumb hole but after trying the viperskins I can never go back. I have big hands so the large pistol grip and side thumb rests really made the rifle that much more comfortable.

[/QUOTE]

Ok cool, only issue is that no one I've seen has either so basically I need to go out on a limb and buy one haha from what you said about big hand issues sounds like I will need the open grip also.

Cheers for the info mate

 

[Yowie]

Before anyone points it out - yep, this is what they try to make us pay for shit in Aus.

Get behind both, I have a JAE700, and owned an AICS. The JAE just feels like more for the money, the machining, finish etc. The AICS is a block of metal with some plastic skins on it, but I still liked mine.

I wouldnt buy either of them at those prices though.

Hey mate,

Where can I get them for a better price in Australia? Everyone seems to not have em and the states won't send them across nowadays. No one I know in my region has either so I'm stuck going out on a limb and buying what I believe is best.

 

[Sonic Crack]

The JAE is deff a better chassis. The adjustable mag well and catch are very nice touch. Many more options than the AI. The JAE is heavy tho in the 7 pound range

 

[Yowie]

The JAE is deff a better chassis. The adjustable mag well and catch are very nice touch. Many more options than the AI. The JAE is heavy tho in the 7 pound range

Is that 7lbs just in the stock with options and barrel/action or just stock?

 

[Hennig]

Where are you mate - happy for you to get behind my JAE if you are closeby.

 

[SNAFU308]

You can order an AICS direct from the UK to Australia and have it in country for less than $1000 and if you don't import the mag with it you don't need to fill in any customs forms either as the stock isn't a controlled item. If you do import the mag you will need to fill out a b709 form.

Alternatively you can be patient and look around I picked up an AICS brand new for about $1150 here in aus a while ago I needed it quick so didn't have time to import it

 

[SNAFU308]

You can also look into the KRG whiskey 3 and X-ray cleavers have the whiskey 3 in stock for around $1250 and the x-Ray for $749

If you're in Brisbane let me know you can get behind my Accuracy International (although it's wearing viper skins at the moment) and my mate has a whiskey 3 too

 

[Hennig]

B709a's are free and have a 6-7 business day turnaround - why miss out on the mag?

 

[SNAFU308]

I agree mate but some people don't like forms. Also ordering it without the mag is a bit cheaper and can keep it under the $1000 import tax threshold when there is a less favourable exchange rate. I worked one out for a mate a while back and it worked out to cost an extra $160 to get the 5 round mag

 

[Hennig]

Fair enough.

 

[Snarf]

JAE vs AICS

I own a JAE stock in long action. Unlike almost everyone else in this thread I can speak for it as an owner and user. Simply put, the stock is absolutely incredible. Every single detail is thought out. Example: The rail attachment for attaching a rear monopod has knurling on the front and a raised arch to accommodate using the webbing of your palm when not using a pod. Everything is machined. I cannot speak highly enough for this stock. The ONLY issue I have had so far is the fast attach cheek riser is a bit finicky if you stuff the hole for the fast attach system full of Tennessee clay. Enjoy yours!


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[Sonic Crack]

Is that 7lbs just in the stock with options and barrel/action or just stock?

Just the chassis

 

[Sgposin]

You won't ever second guess your decision.


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[redneckbmxer24]

The JAE stock is a pig, much heavier than the AICS which is already a heavy chassis. The JAE's slanted stock is also a bit awkward and some people don't like it, I sure don't. I'd go with the AICS.

 

[Yowie]

Where are you mate - happy for you to get behind my JAE if you are closeby.

Hey mate, I'm in Townsville. I don't mind a bit of a drive tho if your in the region

 

[Yowie]

You can order an AICS direct from the UK to Australia and have it in country for less than $1000 and if you don't import the mag with it you don't need to fill in any customs forms either as the stock isn't a controlled item. If you do import the mag you will need to fill out a b709 form.

Alternatively you can be patient and look around I picked up an AICS brand new for about $1150 here in aus a while ago I needed it quick so didn't have time to import it

I think the issue is with AI as I don't think they have made the new stock yet. They have the pistol grip stock in Australia and the AX with the huge rail tube over the barrel. But they are very expensive, should just order one through work lol

The form is no issue as I've done them before then been stopped by the US dealers lol

 

[Yowie]

Just the chassis

Ok, suppose that's not to bad. 3kg......

Most people say the 300WM is a pig but I can't feel the difference between it and a 308 except the bark

 

[Yowie]

Well I sent off an email today to get a price on the JAE stock in coyote brown like the one on their home page with a palm rest. See what they come back with

 

[Hennig]

Hey mate, I'm in Townsville. I don't mind a bit of a drive tho if your in the region

Sunshine Coast buddy, not exactly around the corner!

 

[hk dave]

The JAE is obviously designed and then built by people that have an obsessive compulsive disorder because it is a work of art. Every minor detail is perfect and the finish is second to none. It's hard to explain... you have to handle the JAE 700 to understand... but it is heavy and bulky. Great for a tactical rifle or maybe even the bench. It's almost too pretty to beat up, however I'm certain it could handle any punishment you give it.

For a gun I want to run hard and take everywhere, I prefer the AICS simply because it folds (well the folding models do anyhow), it is more compact in form factor... namely thinner and will snag less... and when you beat the crap out of it and want it to be pretty again, you just grab new skins.

I own both... each for their reasons.

If I could only own one that I had to use in every shooting practice I'm involved with... it would be the AICS.

Thank God I can own more than one, because the JAE is just friggin beautiful.

 

[Yowie]

The JAE is obviously designed and then built by people that have an obsessive compulsive disorder because it is a work of art. Every minor detail is perfect and the finish is second to none. It's hard to explain... you have to handle the JAE 700 to understand... but it is heavy and bulky. Great for a tactical rifle or maybe even the bench. It's almost too pretty to beat up, however I'm certain it could handle any punishment you give it.

For a gun I want to run hard and take everywhere, I prefer the AICS simply because it folds (well the folding models do anyhow), it is more compact in form factor... namely thinner and will snag less... and when you beat the crap out of it and want it to be pretty again, you just grab new skins.

I own both... each for their reasons.

If I could only own one that I had to use in every shooting practice I'm involved with... it would be the AICS.

Thank God I can own more than one, because the JAE is just friggin beautiful.

Yeah I sent an email to AI dealer UK so see which one comes back with price and time wise which suits me better. I'm happy with either really just something good to make the platform

 

[BravoSierra]

I own a JAE stock in long action. Unlike almost everyone else in this thread I can speak for it as an owner and user.


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I have had the long action version going on 2 years now, and agree, it is a very comfortable and well thought out stock. It is a friggn work of art, and you get what you pay for. 4 years ago when i ordered it, id never heard of some of the chassis systems available today. I don't regret my purchase, but with the choices available today were back then, i probably would have went a different route. My rifle is a tick over twenty pounds now, so definitely not the way to go if you are trying to save weight.

 

[nexusfire]

If you like a pistol grip/thumb hole and jagged edges go with the AI. The JAE is like holding the perfect set of tits in your hands.

 

[Yowie]

If you like a pistol grip/thumb hole and jagged edges go with the AI. The JAE is like holding the perfect set of tits in your hands.

You should be a salesman mate, every bloke would buy a couple off you if they are that good haha

 

[nexusfire]

You should be a salesman mate, every bloke would buy a couple off you if they are that good haha

Seriously, I had no idea how nice they were until I got one. Rifle builder talked me into it and i was blown away by the craftsmanship, attention to detail, and ergonomics. If an AICS is a chevy, this thing is a damn Rolls Royce Phantom.

 

[hk dave]

the jae is like holding the perfect set of tits in your hands.

lol this ^^^

 

[Yowie]

Well by the sounds of it the JAE seems to be the cream of the crop. Even if I don't like it I should get a good resale on it

 

[TexasMade]

J Allen

 

[Tonele6]

Yowie I'm in Ayr an hour south of you. May well have a AICS stock with viper skin soon.
I have 2 KRG W3
1 XLR Element
PM me if you have any questions
Toni

 

[aahunt03]

Aics

 

[desert dog]

JAE is a work of art, and easily the finest stock money can buy. But the customer service is not only horrible, but pretty much non-existent. Getting my stock was an adventure in itself, wrought with misinformation and outright lies. Every nook and cranny of this stock reveals painstakingly detailed and functional tidbits, which makes it by far the heaviest stock I own. The ergonomics are perfect and the way it soaks up recoil is amazing. Bottom line though: Designed and built by master-craftsman who has absolutely no business sense.

The AICS stock is a fantastic platform that is readily available from any of your favorite online stores. Used ones can be had for cheap and there is more aftermarket support than any other stock made. The platform gets even better IMO with the Viper Skins added. The folding stock makes it easy to clean without losing your cheek setting, and allows you to put a long-barreled rifle in a compact rifle bag. If you need a great chassis and need it within the next two years, the AICS can not be beat.

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[Tonele6]

Desert Dog a folder would be great but we can't have them in Australia unfortunealty.
But the viper skins certainly make the AI stocks versatile
Toni