Sidearms & Scatterguns Judge- and hand cannons that shoot .410

[hermosabeach]

I few years ago I had to renew a Nevada CCW...... about 1/3 of the class check in with a .410 handgun....
Do you own one? thoughts on the platform?
What am I missing?

 

[W54/XM-388]

For anything other than tiny critters the .410 handguns are less effective than most other options.
Just get a .45 Colt.

 

[TonyTheTiger]

What am I missing?

A subterranean IQ?

 

[myronman3]

if they were 41 magnums....but a 410? no thanks.

 

[Deleted member 10043]

Not for me as well.

It is a little on the weird side but there are some nasty shit they put in the self defense ammo.

 

[eddie102870]

use mine as a snake gun around the ponds in the summer.

 

[Deleted member 10043]

Poison snakes or garter, lol.

 

[Wyzrd]

I got my Dad a Judge 45LC/410 for Xmas about 5 yrs ago. He mostly keeps it as a night stand/HD gun loaded with 45LC. Occasionally though he’ll bring it when we go hunting or hiking around in the mtns. Last year he almost stepped on a prairie rattlesnake when we were packing out his bull elk, but he decided to let it go. I do think the 410 would be a nasty round for these rattlesnakes here.

 

[eddie102870]

poison

 

[fdkay]

They are excellent choices for carry around the ranch/farm or while hiking. 1st and 2nd rounds of #4 or #6 shot then follow on rounds can be self-defense loads.
Don't poo-poo the 410. When loaded with buckshot or slugs, it is quite deadly.
The buckshot loads likely won't be accurate beyond 10 yards or so.
We had a guy here in town fooling around with a little 410 derringer. didn't know how to clear it. Shot through the center of his palm and killed his buddy that was standing a few yards away.
I would prefer the 3" chamber, though it looks a bit unwieldy.

 

[JWHITE]

For the defense side of things, I think it gives the perception of less training/fundamentals to hit your target. False confidence. Gun counter BS for the new handgun owner. If I were a gun manufacturer trying to sell a better mouse trap, it makes sense.

But I’m not, therefore it doesn’t.

 

[JWHITE]

Cool tool for the other uses mentioned here though.

 

[hermosabeach]

I did not want to pee on anyone's wheaties in the class....

My assumption is that they are not taking training to learn how to become a better shot... I'm all for legal CCW/CHL.

I just wished more people who are not happy with their square range results.... would seek out a path to get better...


How is the pattern on these with something heavy enough to kill a snake? is the pattern dense enough to work?

 

[Jefe's Dope]

For CCW, there's way better choices for the size and weight.

Home defense or as a truck/car gun seems more appropriate. Or a ranch/hiking gun. I would carry OWB though.

 

[eddie102870]

works fine with #6's on rattlesnakes and mocassins. never had to shoot twice.

 

[tansinator]

I've shot 14 cottonmouths in the last 2 years with my Judge with #9's and have not had to fire a second shot on any of them. Love my Judge for the swamps of Mississippi.

 

[Dewey7271]

For CCW, there's way better choices for the size and weight.

Home defense or as a truck/car gun seems more appropriate. Or a ranch/hiking gun. I would carry OWB though.

That’s really where they should work best. Drivers seat to passenger window or a little outside. With the shells designed for them they’d be wicked at that range.
Like these
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1002101633

I like the killing belly crawlers with it. I hate a damn snake.

 

[packratt]

I want to get one for aroubd the farm. First round 41p for snakes the others 45lc for 2 and 4 legged varmints.

 

[264win]

I really can’t see any reason to buy one.
The shotshells for 44mag and 45lc offer better payloads than the 21/2” 410
Even the 38/9mm is comparable.
Plus you can get them in better and more portable pistols.

 

[W54/XM-388]

I really can’t see any reason to buy one.
The shotshells for 44mag and 45lc offer better payloads than the 21/2” 410
Even the 38/9mm is comparable.
Plus you can get them in better and more portable pistols.

I usually carry those to match whatever pistol I'm carrying.
.357 Mag or 9mm or .40 or .45

They now have 2 different pellet sizes from CCI

 

[308pirate]

Nothing says *derp* like a Judge

 

[SharpsNitro]

I really can’t see any reason to buy one.
The shotshells for 44mag and 45lc offer better payloads than the 21/2” 410
Even the 38/9mm is comparable.
Plus you can get them in better and more portable pistols.

Care to share your reasoning behind this? I'm having a hard time seeing a 150gr shot load (best case for CCI 45LC) equated to a 1/2oz (219gr) 410 Much less a 38 or 9mm. Is it a shot size issues or what?

I'm looking at a Ruger LCRx in 22wmr for around the property for rattlers. Seems like a good compromise for short range. If not, I would just go with whatever 12ga I have on hand with cheap clays loads. It’s not really a big deal to me as I use a good pair of snake tongs and an axe to dispatch problem snakes, it’s much cheaper and quieter. Not to mention no worries about ricochet.

 

[fanninland]

Whaat? Shoot a 410 birdshot load from a Judge vs a 9mm or 38sp CCI shotshell and tell me there isn’t a difference in power. I recently got my dad a Taurus Public Defender for ranch use and the amount of recoil surprised me., like in the same class as my SW 629 snubby.