Knights Armanent sa-25 pricing

[adam1122]

Walked into the local gun shop today and saw a brand new sa-25 from knights that looked sweet. So, I pick it up,and it feels as good as it looks. Bolt rides like it is on ball bearings.

Price retail $5900!!!!

Now I thought my 20in lwrc REPR was expensive but this is just insane. Only special accessories I noticed were std. Offset iron sites, golf balled barrel for cooling, and their new proprietary flash hider to mount a suppresor. And yeah this is a DI gun.

Is this what everyone else is seeing for Knights Armanent guns? I know 308s that are well built aren't cheap but this is ridiculous. Im thinking about getting another 308 and I know I could get a GAP, POF, JP for 2K less.

What do you guys think? Paying for the name or you get what you pay for? Guys with a sa-25 would you buy one again or get something else...I know we all love our gear and think its the best.

Thx.

 

[lj_1187]

Re: Knights Armanent sa-25 pricing

Was it the ECC you looked at? I have one I am picking up Monday I ordered from Lawmens at their LE pricing. Priced much lower than $5900, but still higher than the competition. I have seen them online pre order for just north of 5k.

 

[Pappasniper]

Re: Knights Armanent sa-25 pricing

They make awesome guns. I have a KAC SR-15 (5.56), it is special. LMT MWS is also a great gun, but more reasonable. It's more like $2,500 and worth it.

The KAC reportedly shoots smoother and is definitely lighter. And is top shelf military grade. Worth it to me? I bought an LMT, but people who own them often praise them.

KAC-LMT-Larue are the top three AR-10's IMHO.

 

[Tengo1]

Re: Knights Armanent sa-25 pricing

Use the money to get yourself both an LMT MWS and a Larue OBR

 

[KillShot]

Re: Knights Armanent sa-25 pricing

It's been said in multiple topics on here that the KAC SR-25 is very overpriced when compared to others out there. If you want an impingement rifle, a GAP-10 will be every bit as accurate (if not more) as the KAC. If you want a piston rifle, get a POF seeing as how you already have an LWRC.

 

[poison123]

Re: Knights Armanent sa-25 pricing

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: PappaSniper</div><div class="ubbcode-body">They make awesome guns. I have a KAC SR-15 (5.56), it is special. LMT MWS is also a great gun, but more reasonable. It's more like $2,500 and worth it.

The KAC reportedly shoots smoother and is definitely lighter. And is <span style="font-weight: bold">top shelf military grade.</span> Worth it to me? I bought an LMT, but people who own them often praise them.

KAC-LMT-Larue are the top three AR-10's IMHO. </div></div>

Your seriously kidding me with that bullshit line right? Paging BigJoe......

 

[Bruiser_Joe]

Re: Knights Armanent sa-25 pricing

oh i can't leave this alone, it is not TOP SHELF military grade, you guys need to pull your head out of your ass if you think anything the military gets issued is TOP SHELF, very very rarely do we get anything that is "top of the heap".

KAC isn't better then just about any AR10 out there, they market well and have a insane cult following, the mk11 mod0 was a piece of shit always will be the mod1 was a lot better but there is a reason the scar mk20 is now online. the GAP10, larue OBR, LMT is and will be a better gun for half the money. if you bought one of those OVERPRICED POS's more power to ya, i'm sure you can tell the other dudes wearing multicam at the range how bad ass it is, but i'll be happy with my GAP10 and 2500 dollars worth of scope or ammo, or twinkies who gives a guck i paid half what you did for a better rifle.

 

[jamescaan]

Re: Knights Armanent sa-25 pricing

very very rarely do we get anything that is "top of the heap"

at Starbucks?

 

[Bruiser_Joe]

Re: Knights Armanent sa-25 pricing

yep, only the best coffee makers for us LMAO

 

[lj_1187]

Re: Knights Armanent sa-25 pricing

http://www.silencertalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=91&t=58156

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_2_381/204558_.html

A few interesting reads on the SR-25 you might like OP.

Also you will hear a lot of people who don't like the SR-25 for the price, but a lot of them are military guys who had experience with the m110 or a similar KAC rifle, which are stone age compared to the EMC and the new line just released. I think a lot of others will advise you not to buy and they have no experience with the EMC, they just see the price. Try to shoot one if you can and compare it you what you have. Good luck on whatever you decide.

 

[cpt.creedmoor]

Re: Knights Armanent sa-25 pricing

Lol......

 

[poison123]

Re: Knights Armanent sa-25 pricing

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: lj_1187</div><div class="ubbcode-body">http://www.silencertalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=91&t=58156

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_2_381/204558_.html

A few interesting reads on the SR-25 you might like OP.

Also you will hear a lot of people who don't like the SR-25 for the price, but a lot of them are military guys who had experience with the m110 or a similar KAC rifle, which are stone age compared to the EMC and the new line just released. I think a lot of others will advise you not to buy and they have no experience with the EMC, they just see the price. Try to shoot one if you can and compare it you what you have. Good luck on whatever you decide. </div></div>

Had a EMC....sure its light and all.....but accuracy wise it sucks. GAP10, JP, or *spits on the ground* Larue are such better choices its not even funny. All your paying for on the Knights is a spiffy Roll Mark and a Name. Nothing more.

 

[lj_1187]

Re: Knights Armanent sa-25 pricing

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Poison123</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: lj_1187</div><div class="ubbcode-body">http://www.silencertalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=91&t=58156

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_2_381/204558_.html

A few interesting reads on the SR-25 you might like OP.

Also you will hear a lot of people who don't like the SR-25 for the price, but a lot of them are military guys who had experience with the m110 or a similar KAC rifle, which are stone age compared to the EMC and the new line just released. I think a lot of others will advise you not to buy and they have no experience with the EMC, they just see the price. Try to shoot one if you can and compare it you what you have. Good luck on whatever you decide. </div></div>

Had a EMC....sure its light and all.....but accuracy wise it sucks. GAP10, JP, or *spits on the ground* Larue are such better choices its not even funny. All your paying for on the Knights is a spiffy Roll Mark and a Name. Nothing more.</div></div>

The EMCs I have fired had outstanding accuracy. I hadnt seen it, but one of the gentleman who let shoot his said he shot his easily sub-moa out to 600m, and if I remember right KevinB has shot his out to 800m sub-moa no problem. If yours wasnt up to par you should have sent it back and they would have made it right.

As far as going by what the military uses, it definitely does not mean it is the best money can buy, but the testing they put weapons through formally, and at the 2 way range will show their true colors. I knew guys when I was in that loved the EMC and had taken it to Iraq and Afghanistan. Take some of the latest "high end" 762 platforms through that and some opinions may change. I didnt order mine for a dedicated precision weapon, but I will run mine more like a carbine.

I wont buy a Larue gun simply because of the way Mark carries himself in online forums.

Im done here as I see this turning into a 5 page post in 2 hours. The fact that you pay just for the name is simply not true.

 

[KillShot]

Re: Knights Armanent sa-25 pricing

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Poison123</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: lj_1187</div><div class="ubbcode-body">http://www.silencertalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=91&t=58156

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_2_381/204558_.html

A few interesting reads on the SR-25 you might like OP.

Also you will hear a lot of people who don't like the SR-25 for the price, but a lot of them are military guys who had experience with the m110 or a similar KAC rifle, which are stone age compared to the EMC and the new line just released. I think a lot of others will advise you not to buy and they have no experience with the EMC, they just see the price. Try to shoot one if you can and compare it you what you have. Good luck on whatever you decide. </div></div>

Had a EMC....sure its light and all.....but accuracy wise it sucks. GAP10, JP, or *spits on the ground* Larue are such better choices its not even funny. <span style="font-weight: bold">All your paying for on the Knights is a spiffy Roll Mark and a Name. Nothing more.</span></div></div>

Oh, but wait a minute, the KAC guys claim there's not another rifle on the market that can take a beating like the KAC rifles can and that's what you're paying for.

 

[Bruiser_Joe]

Re: Knights Armanent sa-25 pricing

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: lj_1187</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Poison123</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: lj_1187</div><div class="ubbcode-body">http://www.silencertalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=91&t=58156

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_2_381/204558_.html

A few interesting reads on the SR-25 you might like OP.

Also you will hear a lot of people who don't like the SR-25 for the price, but a lot of them are military guys who had experience with the m110 or a similar KAC rifle, which are stone age compared to the EMC and the new line just released. I think a lot of others will advise you not to buy and they have no experience with the EMC, they just see the price. Try to shoot one if you can and compare it you what you have. Good luck on whatever you decide. </div></div>

Had a EMC....sure its light and all.....but accuracy wise it sucks. GAP10, JP, or *spits on the ground* Larue are such better choices its not even funny. All your paying for on the Knights is a spiffy Roll Mark and a Name. Nothing more.</div></div>

The EMCs I have fired had outstanding accuracy. I hadnt seen it, but one of the gentleman who let shoot his said he shot his easily sub-moa out to 600m, and if I remember right KevinB has shot his out to 800m sub-moa no problem. If yours wasnt up to par you should have sent it back and they would have made it right.

I wont buy a Larue gun simply because of the way Mark carries himself in online forums.

Im done here as I see this turning into a 5 page post in 2 hours. The fact that you pay just for the name is simply not true. </div></div>

then please tell me what makes it a 5000 dollar gun over the others... please do? if someone jumps in and says R&D my head is goin to explode cuz the military has paid for any R&D KAC has to do for the next 200 years with how much they paid for those guns.

 

[poison123]

Re: Knights Armanent sa-25 pricing

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: lj_1187</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Poison123</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: lj_1187</div><div class="ubbcode-body">http://www.silencertalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=91&t=58156

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_2_381/204558_.html

A few interesting reads on the SR-25 you might like OP.

Also you will hear a lot of people who don't like the SR-25 for the price, but a lot of them are military guys who had experience with the m110 or a similar KAC rifle, which are stone age compared to the EMC and the new line just released. I think a lot of others will advise you not to buy and they have no experience with the EMC, they just see the price. Try to shoot one if you can and compare it you what you have. Good luck on whatever you decide. </div></div>

Had a EMC....sure its light and all.....but accuracy wise it sucks. GAP10, JP, or *spits on the ground* Larue are such better choices its not even funny. All your paying for on the Knights is a spiffy Roll Mark and a Name. Nothing more.</div></div>

The EMCs I have fired had outstanding accuracy. I hadnt seen it, but one of the gentleman who let shoot his said he shot his easily sub-moa out to 600m, and if I remember right KevinB has shot his out to 800m sub-moa no problem. If yours wasnt up to par you should have sent it back and they would have made it right.

I wont buy a Larue gun simply because of the way Mark carries himself in online forums.

Im done here as I see this turning into a 5 page post in 2 hours. The fact that you pay just for the name is simply not true. </div></div>

Why send it back when I can get a gun that shoots better for half the price? The 2k+ price difference between a Gap10, JP, or OBR is nothing but a name.

You can't honestly sit there and type that its more accurate than any of those 3, more reliable than any of those 3 can you? So tell me where does the additional 2k+ come from then, it not for a spiffy Roll Stamp?

 

[KACstealth]

Re: Knights Armanent sa-25 pricing

honestly i believe it is way overpriced for waht you are getting. I own some KAC rifles, however i would be much more inclined to get an OBR or JP or GAP for the price. unless the bore is lined with chrome i do not see what a consumer is paying for. and the federal government is not paying 5900 a pop, i assure you of that

 

[Bruiser_Joe]

Re: Knights Armanent sa-25 pricing

i have seen what the military pays for those systems and it isn't cheaper then

 

[KACstealth]

Re: Knights Armanent sa-25 pricing

wow, well that is good to know. sorry for the innacuracy in my statement, i just went off an assumption. that is crazy though, makes you wonder

 

[B.Morgan]

Re: Knights Armanent sa-25 pricing

You're right. The Federal government probably pays a lot more for them. If we could only get the fighters in the field "and I mean fighters, not support" to be over purchasing then we would have better weapons for them. I'm sorry to say that I own a KAC SR25 light weight match. It's ok and I didn't pay nowhere near $5900 for it. I know someone will say the new ones are much better. In that case go get you one. There's something to say for buying from good people. That's why I own Gap10's and the SR25 is collecting dust. One day I'll quit being lazy and take this thing to my local gun shop and get more than its worth.

 

[Bruiser_Joe]

Re: Knights Armanent sa-25 pricing

I will say that the military buys them as kits though with all associated equipment so that does push the price up significantly but those kits are crazy expensive. I'm sure kevin is floating around here somewhere.

 

[poison123]

Re: Knights Armanent sa-25 pricing

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: B. Morgan</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You're right. The Federal government probably pays a lot more for them. If we could only get the fighters in the field "and I mean fighters, not support" to be over purchasing then we would have better weapons for them. I'm sorry to say that I own a KAC SR25 light weight match. It's ok and I didn't pay nowhere near $5900 for it. I know someone will say the new ones are much better. In that case go get you one. There's something to say for buying from good people. That's why I own Gap10's and the SR25 is collecting dust. One day I'll quit being lazy and take this thing to my local gun shop and get more than its worth. </div></div>

I'll give you 50 bucks and a night with The Dave for it!

 

[997/2man]

Re: Knights Armanent sa-25 pricing


Price check on three .308 rifles...

$5000+/-

$6000+/-

$7000+/-

If we only use price as the primary criteria, all of us would have LMTs.

 

[Bruiser_Joe]

Re: Knights Armanent sa-25 pricing

primary criteria should be what works and you have three viable options all within a couple hundred bucks in the GAP10, LMT, and larue.

then add the POF and LWRC if you want GAS piston which are both right around the same price point and i see no fucking reason to spend double that on a KAC. shit if you have money burning a hole in your pocket buy two of em and see which one you like you'll still be close to a EMC in cost.

 

[shane45]

Re: Knights Armanent sa-25 pricing

Between my shooting partner and I we pretty much have the sample group well represented. Just my own experience. I want to be able to run it like a carbine and make accurate shots at distance or reconfigure the rifle with ease between red dot and scope. My criteria was to have the most accuracy with the least weight.

Rifles:
2 SCAR17's (one mine, one his)
LMT MWS(CL 16")(mine)
OBR(his)
KAC EMC (mine)
I will never own an LWRC for reasons I really dont care to go into.

I would like to try a POF but Im not really a fan of piston AR's. But I am a true believer in experiencing things for myself to form my own opinions.

Here is how it played out for me.
Accuracy from best to worse.
EMC
OBR
MWS
SCAR17
SCAR17

Weight

SCAR17
EMC
MWS
OBR

Reliability
Nothing to report on any of them

Things that bugged me about each one.

EMC
integrated front site
OBR
Dealing with Larue
moa integrated into Rail
Weight
SCAR
Plastic side rails and STUPID mounting method
Barrel mounting design
the way the massive bolt rocks the rifle back and forth
reciprocating handle
MWS
weight
Proprietary barrel

What I like
EMC
most accuracy with the least weight
solid great handling rifle
OBR
accurate
MWS
great fit and finish
barrel change/caliber change capability
SCAR17
best for run and gun

In the end the EMC fit the best for my criteria in that role so it is the one I kept. As for the price, for me, I could justify the additional cost because of the value in having what works best for me.

 

[usmc1488]

Re: Knights Armanent sa-25 pricing

I agree the knight rifles are over priced. I just dont understand the poor reputation they have as far as quality goes. We had a Mk11 and had zero issues with it. Yes, it was dirty as all hell esp if ran with the can, be we never had any quality issues with it.

 

[usmc1488]

Re: Knights Armanent sa-25 pricing

I agree the knight rifles are over priced. I just dont understand the poor reputation they have as far as quality goes. We had a Mk11 and had zero issues with it. Yes, it was dirty as all hell esp if ran with the can, be we never had any quality issues with it.

 

[Bruiser_Joe]

Re: Knights Armanent sa-25 pricing

go to CRANE and ask to see the mk11 folder... you'll see plenty

 

[TestnDoc]

Re: Knights Armanent sa-25 pricing

I love my Mk11. Way better than my Scar 17. Overpriced? Not in my mind.

 

[Bruiser_Joe]

Re: Knights Armanent sa-25 pricing

that ain't saying much the SCAR isn't anything to write home about either

 

[shane45]

Re: Knights Armanent sa-25 pricing

Which begs the question, has anyone really hit the mark of a do it all 308 carbine? To me th EMC has come the closest, but if there was something that worked better for me Id broom it in a minute.

 

[BCP]

Re: Knights Armanent sa-25 pricing

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BigJoe</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I will say that the military buys them as kits though with all associated equipment so that does push the price up significantly but those kits are crazy expensive.</div></div>

20k for the M110 kit I think. The M1A EBR kit is damn near the same price too. LE buddy of mine tried to get one for his dept but his captain shit a brick when he saw the pricetag.

 

[BCP]

Re: Knights Armanent sa-25 pricing

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: shane45</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Which begs the question, has anyone really hit the mark of a do it all 308 carbine?</div></div>

Some people might say the m1a socom.

Personally I think it's an ugly, inaccurate, overpriced piece of shit.

People can argue 'reliability', accuracy, ergonomics but in the end it's all about what you personally want especially if you are just going to the range or a deer stand 2X a month.

If your EMC makes you giggle like a schoolgirl every time you shoot it...fine. But you're still gonna get teased for spending 5k for a manufacturer's logo

 

[purepursuit]

Re: Knights Armanent sa-25 pricing

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: shane45</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Which begs the question, has anyone really hit the mark of a do it all 308 carbine?</div></div>

This right here. Having tried most all of them. I think some are close if you dedicate it to a prone/bench role absolutely. However tack light and handy into the requirements and the search continues. Not sure we'll ever see one built in a large frame 308, most likely a small frame 6.5 Caliber.

When you raise the budget to 6k, the KA wouldn't make my list.

 

[Bruiser_Joe]

Re: Knights Armanent sa-25 pricing

i think having a gun that DOES EVERYTHING is a illusion because there isn't a round yet that "does everything". you will always give up some aspect of what you are trying to accomplish with the gun. I compare it to SOF forces in general, if they try to cover down on every skillset they are great at nothing. just like a 4x optic is not the greatest for cqc, nor targets at 800 plus yards. or a red dot isn't great for 200 plus yard engagements. you guys can think otherwise all you want cuz its my personal opinion but it doesn't change the fact that doin CQC with a 20" barreled gun makes about as much sense as trying to shoot a guy at 900 yards with a 10" barreled AR.

 

[usmc1488]

Re: Knights Armanent sa-25 pricing

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BCP</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BigJoe</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I will say that the military buys them as kits though with all associated equipment so that does push the price up significantly but those kits are crazy expensive.</div></div>

20k for the M110 kit I think. The M1A EBR kit is damn near the same price too. LE buddy of mine tried to get one for his dept but his captain shit a brick when he saw the pricetag. </div></div>

Holly crap really? The great thing about the Army and M14 EMR/DMR was that "they" were moding a weapon that was already bought and paid for. The stock is 750 and take about 1 hour to install, 20,000 WTF?????

 

[Ianski]

Re: Knights Armanent sa-25 pricing

No such thing as a do all, there are plenty of platforms that can play plenty of rolls "well" Very Few platforms play alot of rolls "great" In the end it's all subjective, if you are 6'6" and 270lbs then it wont be as big of a deal to huck around a 12Lbs rifle, a bag-o-bones like me though might have trouble with it!

 

[BCP]

Re: Knights Armanent sa-25 pricing

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: usmc1488</div><div class="ubbcode-body">20,000 WTF?????
</div></div>

Rifle, optics, night vision, suppressor, mags, case, bipod that shit adds up. It's not just mothballed M1A + factory 2nds EBR stock with a leupold duck taped on top.

 

[scharfschutze762]

Re: Knights Armanent sa-25 pricing

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: shane45</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Which begs the question, has anyone really hit the mark of a do it all 308 carbine? To me th EMC has come the closest, but if there was something that worked better for me Id broom it in a minute. </div></div>

WTF is a do it all 308 carbine? Its an in vogue civvie mentality and honestly it shows what your "lack of" background is. About as stupid CQB Sniping..Different tools for different missions.

 

[shane45]

Re: Knights Armanent sa-25 pricing

Lack of background? Exactly what background is it you need to determine that when you shoot on the move with a + 10 lb rifle it induces a lot more bob and weave for you than when the rifle is sub 10 lbs? How many deployments is needed before its ok to say my EMC is a lot more accurate than the SCAR17 I had? Whats a do it all carbine? Its a tngue in cheek comment. But arifle that can match the OBR for accuracy and come close to the weight of a SCAR17 IS an attractive package. As others have mentioned, nothing does everything great. But if I have a rifle that covers a good, broad spectrum as described, thats what I want because to me, that is a very usefull rifle. In vogue civy mentality? Um yeah ok sure. Your right. I cant swing a dead cat at the range without hitting a bunch of civilian EMC owners. Because we all know KAC caters to the civy market and what they want. Frankly your comments wreak of internet commando regurgitation. If you think that one mission cant turn into another or digress into door kicking.....

 

[KillShot]

Re: Knights Armanent sa-25 pricing

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: shane45</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Lack of background? Exactly what background is it you need to determine that when you shoot on the move with a + 10 lb rifle it induces a lot more bob and weave for you than when the rifle is sub 10 lbs? How many deployments is needed before its ok to say my EMC is a lot more accurate than the SCAR17 I had? Whats a do it all carbine? Its a tngue in cheek comment. But arifle that can match the OBR for accuracy and come close to the weight of a SCAR17 IS an attractive package. As others have mentioned, nothing does everything great. But if I have a rifle that covers a good, broad spectrum as described, thats what I want because to me, that is a very usefull rifle. In vogue civy mentality? Um yeah ok sure. Your right. <span style="font-weight: bold">I cant swing a dead cat at the range without hitting a bunch of civilian EMC owners.</span> Because we all know KAC caters to the civy market and what they want. Frankly your comments wreak of internet commando regurgitation. If you think that one mission cant turn into another or digress into door kicking.....</div></div>

All that means is they have more money than common sense because they bought into the KAC propaganda, bullshit, and hype like everyone else who believes that if the military uses it then it must be 'the best thing out there'. The KAC looks sweet but there is absolutely nothing about it that makes it worth $5900, no matter who tries to justify it.

 

[shane45]

Re: Knights Armanent sa-25 pricing

KS. It was meant as pure sarcasm as KAC really dont give 2 craps what the civy market is doing and Ive never even seen another SR25 EMC at the range. In fact the only people I know that do own them are ALL X military.

 

[Chingon]

Re: Knights Armanent sa-25 pricing

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BCP</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BigJoe</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I will say that the military buys them as kits though with all associated equipment so that does push the price up significantly but those kits are crazy expensive.</div></div>

20k for the M110 kit I think. The M1A EBR kit is damn near the same price too. LE buddy of mine tried to get one for his dept but his captain shit a brick when he saw the pricetag. </div></div>

It might be a bit more than that but your not that far off. I used to deal with the folks at Rock Island at PM-IWS dealing with projects and the kit came with scope, NVG, thermals, kill flash, magazines,bipod and some other items I can't think of right now. I once spoke to the Knight's rep and he offered a M110 at cost, not in kit form, for 5k. As a contractor I couldn't take him up on his offer due to a conflict of interest but I was sure tempted.

 

[Bruiser_Joe]

Re: Knights Armanent sa-25 pricing

well all the guys i know who have used KAC stuff all HATE it... just saying i'm not alone in my circle in this idea. i know platoons that left all their mk11's back in the US on deployments cuz nobody wanted to deal with em.

 

[LineofDeparture]

Re: Knights Armanent sa-25 pricing

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: KillShot</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It's been said in multiple topics on here that the KAC SR-25 is very overpriced when compared to others out there. If you want an impingement rifle, a GAP-10 will be every bit as accurate (if not more) as the KAC. If you want a piston rifle, get a POF seeing as how you already have an LWRC. </div></div>
Believe what this guy said!! I wanted Direct impingement and own a GAP-10... What a hammer... GA Precision will do you right... I assure you

 

[LineofDeparture]

Re: Knights Armanent sa-25 pricing

One more thing... Just remember.. Military contracts are hosted by the "lowest bidder"... they're reasons behind that.

 

[shane45]

Re: Knights Armanent sa-25 pricing

Ive had 4 GAP rifles in the past so obviously I like their stuff. But when it comes to the Gap 10 I just simply do not like the POF reciever and rail setup. Its a deal breaker for me.

 

[SpinDrift338]

Re: Knights Armanent sa-25 pricing

My experience with our units 110's was hovering around 1moa. However you had to shoot about a box of rounds after stripping the carbon from the gas block after cleaning it to get the damn thing to seal and stop shooting a pattern at 100 meters. The suppressor would take that many rounds to create enough carbon to seal up to the rifle and shrink the group back to 1moa, I wasn't really too impressed with it. The M110 was so similar to my personally owned LMT MWS we swapped the uppers and lowers for grins, and the LMT and M110 lowers looked identical to me. My LMT will shoot .5 to .75moa on average with most shooters, and I wouldn't pay for a knights that didn't shoot as well as the LMT at half the cost.

 

[koz]

Re: Knights Armanent sa-25 pricing

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: coryfls3vvt</div><div class="ubbcode-body">One more thing... Just remember.. Military contracts are hosted by the "lowest bidder"... they're reasons behind that. </div></div>

You've never heard of sole source contracting have you....

 

[usmc1488]

Re: Knights Armanent sa-25 pricing

Well ours M14 M39 did not have a can, it didnt have a night scope. The pelican case is about 250, and the Leupold 3.5-10 is about 1500 (only the 40s were running SBs). Harris bi-pods are about 150. Im guessing uncle sam is still getting priced gouge on items, like thr 5000 hammer.