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KONY 2012

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    Anyone who's seen this your thoughts? Watching it right now because 20 or so friends of mine keep posting it.

    I was under the impression this kind of atrocity had been going on in Africa for years. Not sure about the guys attitude at one point he states "the U.S. has never done anything without accordance to security or finances" or something of that sort. I immediately think of Somalia, IIRC we weren't there on our behalf it was for the somalians and to stop Mohamed Farrah Aidid.

     
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    Before I say anything else, I think that Kony is a POS. With that said, this Kony 2012 is just a stunt. We have known about Kony since 1986 when he started the Lord's Resistance Army (LRA) We could have taken him out years ago. Now all these college kids are jumping on the "do good" bandwagon and every shake with a FB page thinks they are part of the fall of Kony because they liked a status or pic. The LRA is on it's last breath and somebody will take it's place when it falls. That is the way greed works. Look at what happened in Somalia. We removed Mohamed Ali Farrah Aidid and now Somalia is full of pirates. There will always be violence in that part of the world. You can thank Europe for that. Expecting the US to help Europe with Africa is like expecting Europe to help America with what we did to the Native Americans.
    P.S. There is a pretty good oil supply in Uganda, so yeah, there you go. You just have to read between the lines my friend.
     
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    <span style="font-weight: bold">Is There More to the Invisible Children Story in Uganda Than Meets the Eye?</span>

    "...On the surface, something does seem a little odd. In looking at what people are saying about the new video and campaign, there could be legitimate criticisms. The UK’s Guardian has posted an extensive piece detailing some of the critiques. For example, it points to the tumblr Visible Children, which has raised some important concerns, including Kony not even being in Uganda anymore and accusations of “manipulating facts:”

    The group is in favour of direct military intervention, and their money supports the Ugandan government’s army and various other military forces. Here’s a photo of the founders of Invisible Children posing with weapons and personnel of the Sudan People’s Liberation Army. Both the Ugandan army and Sudan People’s Liberation Army are riddled with accusations of rape and looting, but Invisible Children defends them, arguing that the Ugandan army is “better equipped than that of any of the other affected countries”, although Kony is no longer active in Uganda and hasn’t been since 2006 by their own admission. These books each refer to the rape and sexual assault that are perennial issues with the UPDF, the military group Invisible Children is defending.

    Still, the bulk of Invisible Children’s spending isn’t on supporting African militias, but on awareness and filmmaking. Which can be great, except that Foreign Affairs has claimed that Invisible Children (among others) <span style="color: #FF0000">“manipulates facts for strategic purposes, exaggerating the scale of LRA abductions and murders and emphasizing the LRA’s use of innocent children as soldiers, and portraying Kony — a brutal man, to be sure — as uniquely awful, a Kurtz-like embodiment of evil.” He’s certainly evil, but exaggeration and manipulation to capture the public eye is unproductive, unprofessional and dishonest.</span>

    But Visible Children isn’t the only one raising concerns.

    Michael Wilson from Foreign Policy, who spent time in Uganda:

    It would be great to get rid of Kony. He and his forces have left a path of abductions and mass murder in their wake for over 20 years. But let’s get two things straight: 1) Joseph Kony is not in Uganda and hasn’t been for 6 years; 2) the LRA now numbers at most in the hundreds, and while it is still causing immense suffering, it is unclear how millions of well-meaning but misinformed people are going to help deal with the more complicated reality.

    First, the facts. Following a successful campaign by the Ugandan military and failed peace talks in 2006, the LRA was pushed out of Uganda and has been operating in extremely remote areas of the DRC, South Sudan, and the Central African Republic — where Kony himself is believed to be now. The Ugandan military has been pursuing the LRA since then but had little success (and several big screw-ups). In October last year, President Obama authorized the deployment of 100 U.S. Army advisors to help the Ugandan military track down Kony, with no results disclosed to date.

    Additionally, the LRA (thankfully!) does not have 30,000 mindless child soldiers. This grim figure, cited by Invisible Children in the film (and by others) refers to the total number of kids abducted by the LRA over nearly 30 years. Eerily, it is also the same number estimated for the total killed in the more than 20 years of conflict in Northern Uganda.

    Arthur Larok, Action Aid’s director in Uganda, previously the director of programs at the Uganda National NGO Forum:

    From what I know about Invisible Children, it’s an international NGO, and it documents the lives of children living in conflict for international campaigning to draw attention to the lives of children in the north.

    Six or 10 years ago, this would have been a really effective campaign strategy to get international campaigning. But today, years after Kony has moved away from Uganda, I think campaigning that appeals to these emotions … I‘m not sure that’s effective for now. The circumstances in the north have changed.

    Many NGOs and the government, especially local government in the north, are about rebuilding and securing lives for children, in education, sanitation, health and livelihoods. International campaigning that doesn’t support this agenda is not so useful at this point. We have moved beyond that.

    Tons more at:
    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/is-there...-meets-the-eye/

     
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    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MontanaKid</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Before I say anything else, I think that Kony is a POS. With that said, this Kony 2012 is just a stunt. We have known about Kony since 1986 when he started the Lord's Resistance Army (LRA) We could have taken him out years ago. Now all these college kids are jumping on the "do good" bandwagon and every shake with a FB page thinks they are part of the fall of Kony because they liked a status or pic. The LRA is on it's last breath and somebody will take it's place when it falls. That is the way greed works. Look at what happened in Somalia. We removed Mohamed Ali Farrah Aidid and now Somalia is full of pirates. There will always be violence in that part of the world. You can thank Europe for that. Expecting the US to help Europe with Africa is like expecting Europe to help America with what we did to the Native Americans.
    P.S. There is a pretty good oil supply in Uganda, so yeah, there you go. You just have to read between the lines my friend.</div></div>

    Glad i'm not the only one that thinks this way. I didn't want to say it because i wasn't sure the reaction i'd get but it's annoying seeing everyone posting it as if it's actually making a difference. The "good" bandwagon is also equally annoying.
     
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    ^LOL. Pretty much sums it up. Fortunately, a good number of people are realizing it's just a big stunt. However, I feel it's too late for the sheeple do gooders. What makes me laugh is that this is probably the US big wigs getting payback on America's youth for all the Occupy "movements." They have all been had.
     
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    I've got to give them a credit on the PR campaign, however I think it's mostly pretty dumb.

    African politics aren't black and white or anything close to it. I'm all for stopping genocide, I just don't think this is the best way to do it.
     
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    I'll just leave this here.....
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    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: user name:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
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    Ok... That is funny and yet oddly enough makes sense... That video is over 55+ million hits now...
     
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    I can just see it now ...

    <span style="color: #003300"><span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-size: 20pt">BIEBER'S
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    A lot of my friends are posting about this. Just like MontanaKid, I think its a stunt.... Their "rally" or whatever you want to call it is on 4/20. Hmmm. Also the video seems to make only the US responsible for taking him down. 16:22 starts to sound like a cult and sounds like another branch of the occupy movement. The backers are mostly young adults and teens and Yahoo even had an article stating this. "Michael Poffenberger, executive director of Resolve, an advocacy organization that works with Invisible Children.....they have been connecting with an audience. The majority of their supporters—and they have hundreds of thousands of supporters—are millennials who never previously donated to a nonprofit" So you have all these young people who grew up with social media and now they have their own income and they want to believe in a cause and donate. IMO not only because they believe in the cause but because they don't want to be the only one out of their "friends" on facebook not to "like" the movement.

    Here is the whole article

    http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/envoy/kony20...-183106657.html
     
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    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: chka</div><div class="ubbcode-body">A lot of my friends are posting about this. Just like MontanaKid, I think its a stunt.... Their "rally" or whatever you want to call it is on 4/20. Hmmm. Also the video seems to make only the US responsible for taking him down. 16:22 starts to sound like a cult and sounds like another branch of the occupy movement. The backers are mostly young adults and teens and Yahoo even had an article stating this. "Michael Poffenberger, executive director of Resolve, an advocacy organization that works with Invisible Children.....they have been connecting with an audience. The majority of their supporters—and they have hundreds of thousands of supporters—are millennials who never previously donated to a nonprofit" So you have all these young people who grew up with social media and now they have their own income and they want to believe in a cause and donate. IMO not only because they believe in the cause but because they don't want to be the only one out of their "friends" on facebook not to "like" the movement.

    Here is the whole article

    http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/envoy/kony20...-183106657.html </div></div>

    Good to see hear from people who can see through the smoke. Unfortunately, I'm 19 and part of this r tard generation that views everything with rosey glasses(even though I don't). I have noticed that when it first came out, it wasn't on big networks like cnn. Probably because Invisible Children knows that kids don't watch those programs and that those who do, would probably do some research before they jumped on the band wagon. Unfortunately, it's already rolling and the US is ramping up to "take down Kony" and help the people of Uganda get going on their oil supply. FACEPALM. We are already special operations capable in Africa, so Kony will probably be the target of a US military op sometime before November.
     
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    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MontanaKid</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
    Good to see hear from people who can see through the smoke. Unfortunately, I'm 19 and part of this r tard generation that views everything with rosey glasses(even though I don't). I have noticed that when it first came out, it wasn't on big networks like cnn. Probably because Invisible Children knows that kids don't watch those programs and that those who do, would probably do some research before they jumped on the band wagon. Unfortunately, it's already rolling and the US is ramping up to "take down Kony" and help the people of Uganda get going on their oil supply. FACEPALM. We are already special operations capable in Africa, so Kony will probably be the target of a US military op sometime before November. </div></div>


    yeah I'm 25 and there were still a good number of my friends who took to the occupy movement and are now jumping on this bandwagon. You're completely right, I think we'll see something about this come election time.... can't wait until Barry tries to claim this one too.

    "We know the whereabouts of a person of interest. Should we take action?"

    "Yes"

    Took a lot of thought on that one.
     
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    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Krav69</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I served in Somalia.

    <span style="color: #FF0000">Let 'em kill and starve each other off.</span>

    </div></div>

    +1. If it wasn't for Europe/Russia and the US selling guns to Africa, they'd probably still be throwing spears. Shot ourselves in the foot on that one.
     
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    <span style="color: #003300"><span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-size: 23pt"><span style="font-family: 'Arial Black'">I WANT TO BELIEVE!</span></span></span></span>
     
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    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">First, the facts. Following a successful campaign by the Ugandan military and failed peace talks in 2006, the LRA was pushed out of Uganda and has been operating in extremely remote areas of the DRC, South Sudan, and the Central African Republic — where Kony himself is believed to be now. The Ugandan military has been pursuing the LRA since then but had little success (and several big screw-ups). In October last year, President Obama authorized the deployment of 100 U.S. Army advisors to help the Ugandan military track down Kony, with no results disclosed to date.</div></div>

    If you insist on confusing the issue with facts, expect a huge backlash from the left. You know the rules.
     
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    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: EddieNFL</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">First, the facts. Following a successful campaign by the Ugandan military and failed peace talks in 2006, the LRA was pushed out of Uganda and has been operating in extremely remote areas of the DRC, South Sudan, and the Central African Republic — where Kony himself is believed to be now. The Ugandan military has been pursuing the LRA since then but had little success (and several big screw-ups). In October last year, President Obama authorized the deployment of 100 U.S. Army advisors to help the Ugandan military track down Kony, with no results disclosed to date.</div></div>

    If you insist on confusing the issue with facts, expect a huge backlash from the left. You know the rules. </div></div>

    LOL, so true!
     
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    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Veer_G</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
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    <span style="color: #003300"><span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-size: 23pt"><span style="font-family: 'Arial Black'">I WANT TO BELIEVE!</span></span></span></span></div></div>

    Thats priceless LMAO
     
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    He forgot to mention putting saltpeter in their lattes and chais ...