I'm planning on purchasing a S&B 5-25x56 in near future and I'm thinking about mounting options for this to be put on my TRG-22 with an ATRS 25 MOA rail. Which would be better, a Larue or Badger, and which mount?
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You don't want Larue rings. They offer nothing that seekins doesn't do for better and cheaper.
They make decent mounts, not precision rifle rings. Now if you want youe extra $50 to buy some dillo dust and bumper stickers, then by all means..... go larue
Mmmm dillo dust. I wasn't aware that Larue didn't make good precision rifle rings, then again I've never looked for a set. I have a Larue SPR mount and like it a lot.
Good Precision rings and QD are mutualy exclusive. Couple that with larues shitty attachment design (by modern standards) and that is why you don't see many people running them who know what their doing.
Don't get me wrong, I own plenty of larue shit, including a LT271 that came in the mail yesterday, but for optics, there are much better choices.
What do you mean by this "Couple that with larues shitty attachment design (by modern standards)"? Just curious because I'm happy with the way my Larue attaches.
I have a Larue PSR mount on my POF and i love it! it is super solid and a great design as always Larues customer service was top notch and i like the stance larue has taken lately with all the craziness +1 larue
So, I guess, Seekins it is. Now I'm trying to figure out the sizes. Using the formula posted on the sticky in this forum, I came up with the following (assuming that the ring sizes stated on the Seekins website is measuring the height to the center of the ring):
1.00" ring = 1.225mm or 0.0482283" clearance
1.25" ring = 7.575mm or 0.29822835" clearance
However, since I have a 20 MOA rail, there should be a bit less clearance. I'm guessing the 1.25" would be the best fit?
Its a poor design compared to modern ones like bobro. It requires adjustment, it does not have much bearing surface, it can gouge your rails and QD does not equal RTZ. You are always going to have some POI shift even if its 1/2moa.
Now wait for all these people to come in here and claim "ive owned larue for years and never had a problem", or "They are great I use one all the time". Don't listen to them.
Many here like myself have owned ALL of the QD mount companies and many of the non QD ones.
Someone who shoots at dirt, never takes it off their rifle, does not run their guns hard or has nothing to compare it to can't exactly give an objective comparison. They have nothing to compare it to.
I have 1.00" Badger rings mounting S&B PMII's on a Rem 5R and GAP Crusader. Both are on 20 MOA bases and work fine with enough clearance for BC caps.
OFG
When you refer to always having some POI shift do you mean once you have unmounted and then remounted or even without unmounting? Thank you for your responses.
Actually, the rail is 25MOA, not 20MOA as stated in the post. I just made an edit. Does that make any difference?
I have a Larue PSR mount on my POF and i love it! it is super solid and a great design as always Larues customer service was top notch and i like the stance larue has taken lately with all the craziness +1 larue
Removal or reattachment. That is why anyone who is serious about wringing every bit of accuracy out of their system, is running a non qd mount or rings. Depending on your application, the poi shift may be acceptable as a tradeoff for switching out optics and accsesories.
I just buy a different rifle for each job and leave it.
Yeah, about 5 MOA
i think i have to point out at this point that good rings and the ability to detach and then mount again without a change in zero is not mutually exclusive. take the AI mount for example. you can take it off and put it right back on and shoot into the same group. And to beat all it is made of aluminum. Larue can do the exact same thing, except it does it faster.
If you were to take any rings off and put them back on and shoot at 600+ yards I would think there would be some change, yes. but anyone who would do that is wasting ammo. but to say a product like larue's doesn't work is not the right thing to do. it may not be your choice but that doesn't make it sub-par to your choice either.
First of all. You are wrong. Anytime you remove a mount an put it back on, your going to have a POI shift. There are many factors that determine how much the shift is, but its still there, and measurable.
Your post reeks of ignorance and vague statements. I am not even going to begin to dissect it.
i think i have to point out at this point that good rings and the ability to detach and then mount again without a change in zero is not mutually exclusive. take the AI mount for example. you can take it off and put it right back on and shoot into the same group. And to beat all it is made of aluminum. Larue can do the exact same thing, except it does it faster.
If you were to take any rings off and put them back on and shoot at 600+ yards I would think there would be some change, yes. but anyone who would do that is wasting ammo. but to say a product like larue's doesn't work is not the right thing to do. it may not be your choice but that doesn't make it sub-par to your choice either.
I wound up going with a NEAR Alphamount.
People love to hate LaRue and everyone has their opinions.