Both sides are working together to play us. Follow the money.we aint close to a civil war gents, pay attention to who is doing what and trust no one.
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Both sides are working together to play us. Follow the money.we aint close to a civil war gents, pay attention to who is doing what and trust no one.
You touched on the most important part of their game.Yeah like WTF . Supposedly Pink's husband tweeted anyone caught looting will be shot . Stay away . 2A fuck yeah . How fuckin ironic that female Bo fuckin Jangles
is anti gun . Must be nice to be the Commie Elite .
History ? Tyrants only understand force.“Civil war” is a crutch for those who either do not care to actually fight or who are delusional. “Oh when its Civil War I’ll get off my ass and fight”. Those people will be the first to hide. Civil War is the unthinkable last resort.
This battle will be won by fighting with our brains and money. We have the examples of how these battles are won. We just need to look to history.......
Exactly........ Someone is paying attention.Both sides are working together to play us. Follow the money.
History ? Tyrants only understand force.
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Exactly........ Someone is paying attention.
My post said nothing about “armed resistance” .I realize that.
Not ubless it's on Xbox .Furthermore you can hardly get 99% of the gun owning males in this country out of the house for a solid day of hunting or a day of training. If you do get them out of their cozy home, their wife needs them home by noon. You think thses guys are showing up for a civil war?
Oh, I'm for the constitution all the way, but that's not the issue. The issue is that 2a advocates seem to only frame the issues of gun usage in the absolute language of a constitutional right. This approach induces the other side to consider regulations like that cited by the OP which erode the right. Tactically, it would be better to change the conversation - recognize the issue and offer alternatives.
As to your question, I live in Virginia.
So never think you are having a conversation about what is socially acceptable with your neighbors here. The gun control conversation is Crazy the Clown trying to convince you to put down your gun, and everything will be fine, while he lovingly sharpens his axe and talks about each of the notches on the handle...
That is what we need to stop these red flag states unconstitutional gun confiscation in its tracks.. everyone in those states need to be ready to do this for their neighbor, and pray their newborns is ready to do the same
That is sound advice. We should also arm the lgbt community, take em to the range and teach them to shoot. In fact we should do this with local womens shelters and any group events we can. We need to realize and help them realize this is everybody’s fight. The time will come when we will have to stand shoulder to shoulder with anyone who will take up the cause with us. That is why the media keeps the race issue alive and blown out of proportion. What else are the media keeping alive?What we need is a better strategy. And i certainly think we can learn from the LGBT community and other successful movements.
That is sound advice. We should also arm the lgbt community, take em to the range and teach them to shoot. In fact we should do this with local womens shelters and any group events we can. We need to realize and help them realize this is everybody’s fight. The time will come when we will have to stand shoulder to shoulder with anyone who will take up the cause with us. That is why the media keeps the race issue alive and blown out of proportion. What else are the media keeping alive?
That is sound advice. We should also arm the lgbt community, take em to the range and teach them to shoot. In fact we should do this with local womens shelters and any group events we can. We need to realize and help them realize this is everybody’s fight. The time will come when we will have to stand shoulder to shoulder with anyone who will take up the cause with us. That is why the media keeps the race issue alive and blown out of proportion. What else are the media keeping alive?
Before I get to crazy about things I want to know how many total confiscations there have been? How many taken without shootouts? Weekly or Monthly National totals should be made available.
There are crazy people but not all people are crazy. Standing up for them will not help us. What I want is "Due Process" before the seizure. Like a court ordering you to go see three shrinks. There must be at least three people attesting (by Oath) to the belief a person is a danger before that order. Also they must let the accused agree on the shrinks. Then when two of three say you are batshit crazy? Only then should any legal order for disarming a person be issued. JMHO
Still Weekly or Monthly stats should be posted.
I am not batshit crazy even though it may seem that way if they try to disarm me. Prove it first.
Can't say that I have. Your point? As I am sure there is one.
It's an example of gun confiscations that happen every day. Plus you can add on to that being denied when you go to buy a gun.Can't say that I have. Your point? As I am sure there is one.
That is sound advice. We should also arm the lgbt community, take em to the range and teach them to shoot. In fact we should do this with local womens shelters and any group events we can. We need to realize and help them realize this is everybody’s fight. The time will come when we will have to stand shoulder to shoulder with anyone who will take up the cause with us. That is why the media keeps the race issue alive and blown out of proportion. What else are the media keeping alive?
Great. Until they turn on you.
If all govt people knew 100+ armed men would show up on their doorstep for violating anything in the constitution, or LEO's doing no knocks on the wrong door and killing the guy...confiscating etc....I can guarantee they would get shit straight the first time.
That is called real FEAR, which is what and how we should treat our govt. Our founders intended things to be this way. The barrel of a gun is the only thing they will ever understand and what we do not.
Hell, they showed up in Newnan, Georgia to protest some white nationalist morons. Newnan AIN’T interested in giving up our guns. The only reason they didn’t tear up the town and be all over national news is our city government and law enforcement brought a heavy hammer and put the squash on their bullshit. I live around two blocks from where they were gathering and had an afternoon of high entertainment watching em try to outfox the police, with NO success. The difference between here and places like Charlottesville is the local government wasn’t going to tolerate it.Do you think antifa will show up in Jersey or Pa or Maryland ? I've been to a few rallies and haven't seen them . And if it turns into a firefight better at a rally than on my street . I'm not surrendering my weapons and would rather try a more aggressive appraoch politically first . This is not just about 2A . It's about everything that is lost once 2A is gone .
You’ve still armed more people.. win win. Are you telling me you can’t outshoot a queer?Great. Until they turn on you.
You’ve still armed more people.. win win. Are you telling me you can’t outshoot a ******?
One confiscation is one too many.. and about seeing shrinks.. you should never encounter a law requiring you to subject yourself to things you don’t believe in and let their opinion matter. Follow the money to see were there intentions lie. You don’t require a Christian to use sharia law do you? If you are legitimately “crazy” enough to not be able to own a gun, then you have no buisness outside a padded room. I dont wanna sound to synical here but in a nation were everyone is armed and everyone has a right to defend them self’s, true crazy people should find a shortened life, we shouldn’t be protecting idiots like that guy in Montrose (Houston) stealing peoples signs and running at people getting in their faces. That was crazy yet that’s the kind of crazy the gov protects. We should no more treat our idiots like they are an endangered species.. especially if we are talking about disarming people that others deem crazy. People called Albert Einstein crazy..Before I get to crazy about things I want to know how many total confiscations there have been? How many taken without shootouts? Weekly or Monthly National totals should be made available.
There are crazy people but not all people are crazy. Standing up for them will not help us. What I want is "Due Process" before the seizure. Like a court ordering you to go see three shrinks. There must be at least three people attesting (by Oath) to the belief a person is a danger before that order. Also they must let the accused agree on the shrinks. Then when two of three say you are batshit crazy? Only then should any legal order for disarming a person be issued. JMHO
Still Weekly or Monthly stats should be posted.
I am not batshit crazy even though it may seem that way if they try to disarm me. Prove it first.
If the name of the game is gun rights, you defiantly can’t stand their handing them out and be like “you can’t have one your a queer, you can’t have one your a redneck, and you defiantly can’t have one, you’ve been to war..It's not about how well you can outshoot, as proven by the fact that we have had losses in the sandbox.
If you arm enough of just about anything somewhat intelligent, and they turn on you, there is a good chance you get it.
Give enough monkeys AKs and somebody is getting shot.
We would have to arm Iraqis over there, and “surprise” they would often start shooting at you. If you can’t fight the war yourself you will have to fight with people you don’t like or trust. If you think this country can remain decided while regaining our lost liberty then your crazier than any dem I’ve metIf the name of the game is gun rights, you defiantly can’t stand their handing them out and be like “you can’t have one your a queer, you can’t have one your a redneck, and you defiantly can’t have one, you’ve been to war..
We would have to arm Iraqis over there, and “surprise” they would often start shooting at you. If you can’t fight the war yourself you will have to fight with people you don’t like or trust. If you think this country can remain devided while regaining our lost liberty then your crazier than any dem I’ve met
Yet we arm marines when we have perfectly good armyIt's not about how well you can outshoot, as proven by the fact that we have had losses in the sandbox.
If you arm enough of just about anything somewhat intelligent, and they turn on you, there is a good chance you get it.
Give enough monkeys AKs and somebody is getting shot.
If the name of the game is gun rights, you defiantly can’t stand their handing them out and be like “you can’t have one your a queer, you can’t have one your a redneck, and you defiantly can’t have one, you’ve been to war..
Now I see your pointMissing the point a bit.
Those are your words not mine.
I never said that I didn't want others to have guns.
I simply stated that:
A. Don't be naive enough to think that just because some "special" group might also feel they want guns, that they will have any loyalty to you and won't stab you in the back the moment they get a better deal.
B. Don't be overconfident and foolish enough to think that just because you have better skills, better weapons and better training that you can't wind up dead when you least expect it from something or someone getting in a shot or a lucky accidental hit.
Neither preclude you from giving out guns or encouraging others to get guns to serve a common purpose. Just don't be all starry eyed and thinking it's going to always be peace and love. Be sure to have a plan to cover your rear end when your "friends" and "allies" switch sides.
At 6 ft 7 and 380, bench pressing over 400lbs I'd go for it.... but alas that was 10 years and more than a couple bigmacs agoHave you seen how big a mk 19 is?(the only full auto 40mm germane launcher I know of) If your big enough to carry it out of “any store” without straining, and shoulder it, I don’t think anyone is gonna question you..
Missing the point a bit.
Those are your words not mine.
I never said that I didn't want others to have guns.
I simply stated that:
A. Don't be naive enough to think that just because some "special" group might also feel they want guns, that they will have any loyalty to you and won't stab you in the back the moment they get a better deal.
B. Don't be overconfident and foolish enough to think that just because you have better skills, better weapons and better training that you can't wind up dead when you least expect it from something or someone getting in a shot or a lucky accidental hit.
Neither preclude you from giving out guns or encouraging others to get guns to serve a common purpose. Just don't be all starry eyed and thinking it's going to always be peace and love. Be sure to have a plan to cover your rear end when your "friends" and "allies" switch sides.
That was not civil war. Not even remotely close.
At 6 ft 7 and 380, bench pressing over 400lbs I'd go for it.... but alas that was 10 years and more than a couple bigmacs ago
"Don’t be so dramatic. You claiming you need a gun to protect yourself against the government is ludicrous. "-SwalwellMove along nothing to see here.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/...assault-weapons-ban-the-government-has-nukes/