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Hunting & Fishing leading a running whitetail...

jayd4wg

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I'm back online after 5 solid days in the field. last saturday was a total bust...the private farm we hunt was less than private on the first day of doe this year and we saw very little. I kicked a large doe out of bed at 80 yards in the thick and never got a shot. Soon after this, my FIL and I split into 2 different directions and about 30 seconds after he went down into the creekbed and I stayed up on on the gasline road i heard something coming out of the woods where he went down the hill. I turned, dropped to a knee and brought the rifle up ready to thumb off the safety. what jumped out on the trail freaked me out a bit...it was the largest dog i've ever seen in the woods around here and it was an absolutely gorgeous coyote. In my haste to dump him, i neglected to notice that my bolt was open (second time this has happened to me) from taking the slung rifle from my left shoulder. I squeezed and NOTHING...then it turned and looked right at me, gave that "Oh SHIT" look, and hit the afterburners up the hill. I cranked off a round anyway after closing the bolt but missed. I figured any hit on a coyote with the 308 would be sufficient to slow him down and give me another opportunity but he was GONE. Another hunter shot him about an hour later, about a mile from where I was and he told the local law and paper that he shot a wolf. Maybe a wolf hybrid...but not a wolf IMO...but it was a pretty dog. black and gray, and all if not more than 50-55 lbs.

ANYWAY...the next couple days were pretty uneventful - i thumped a button buck with the slug gun on monday with a 30 yard neck shot and he bruised his bellybutton from hitting the ground so hard. the recoil rattled my teeth pretty good in the cold but I was still able to watch him suck his feet up in slo-mo as the slug turned his neck into a basketball. I've never neck shot a deer before, and i'm a convert. DRT, and that was the cleanest field dressing I've ever done...matter of fact, it was almost enjoyable.

now to the meat of the matter...I kicked 2 herds of doe yesterday, and all of them were on a full tilt run when they crossed the gasline road. trees on both sides, i could see them running toward the road in the woods to each side on both occurances so i dropped to a knee, got a good kneeling stance and timed the first 2 crossing and fired on the third when I thought I had their speed down.

The does were crossing 30-40 yards in front of me, and on the first one, I fired when the crosshairs were just touching her brisket. clean miss, no hair, no blood.

On the second one, I led her by 6-10 inches and fired, clean miss, no hair or blood. What the hell am i doing wrong? I thought the rifle was off, so after i found i missed on the second one too, i took a shot at a 4" round log at 60ish yards and knocked it right off the stump i placed it on, so i know i'm at least minute of deer still and i know the rifle is hitting where i'm aiming, so how much DO you lead this deer?

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I did not follow the deer with the scope, i held steady on a spot and fired when the moving deer hit that spot (intercept method?) and i wonder if on both occasions i flinched the rifle in the direction of movement resulting in a shot out in front of the deer instead of an impact.

Any advice on hitting running targets? and what's a good way to practice this shot? Anyone have a homemade rig to practice these?
 
Re: leading a running whitetail...

You're not following the deer, that's the mistake.

On the intercept method figure that you need an additional 0.2-0.5s of "internal lock time" as Lowlight puts it. For a deer running that means you're averaging a 12" lead on an animal moving 25mph or more.

You don't need to lead very much for bullet flight time with a 40yd shot (a 308 will cover that distance in about 0.04s), you need to lead for your internal lock time (ILT from now on).

Here's some math to substantiate this:

Running deer @ 30 mph (makes the numbers easy) = 44 fps
40yd flight time ~ 0.04s
ILT = 0.35s (average)

Total lag time = flight time + ILT = 0.04 + 0.35 = 0.39s

Notice that the bullet flight time lead is only about 10% of the problem.

Now let's look at the distance covered by the deer in that time.

44fps * 0.39s = 17.16 feet

Of that your bullet flight accounts for appx 1.72 feet, or 20". So, your brisket lead should have drilled her across the 3rd or 4th rib, if you'd been following the deer instead of trying to use the ambush method.
 
Re: leading a running whitetail...

If your getting moving shots at 30-40 yards out. Sounds to me like I'd be carring the out shotty with some 3" buck shot and have my rifle slung over my back just in case of a long shot.
 
Re: leading a running whitetail...

FWIW there's a popular variation of this that is competitive sport in the Scandinavian countries. I think it's a 100m shot on a "running stag" and you have to pump rounds into it over a really short period.

Maybe I'm remembering it wrong, but it's not anywhere as easy as those guys make it look.
 
Re: leading a running whitetail...

clean miss, no hair, no blood.

Could just mean you did not find it. Your story is a perfect example of why shooting at running game is a questionable practice. Pretty hard to tell if their running speed is 20MPH or 30MPH orrrrr?????. Additionally, the "center mass" on a deer does not remain in the same plane, when they run. There is some 'bounding' involved, so that target changes in elevation each time they push off.
Antelope run with their body in the same plane. Does that make an easier target???? Not Really!! Full tilt for them is up to 60MPH. I am told they need to be led 7 lengths at 100yds, if they are running full tilt.
FWIW, my practice is don't shoot at running game.
 
Re: leading a running whitetail...

bohem is right on this...shooting intercept instead of following on a running deer is usually a reciept for a miss. Probably every shooter has his method of "following" or "swinging" the gun but a very good running shot once told me to aim at hair not air.

My method is to follow, swing through and squeeze. A good trigger makes the process much better. I practiced with a large bike tire filled with cardboard rolling down a slope. It took a little to get the hang of it but made shooting running deer much easier.

Also, try a little sneaking or stand hunting so they aren't running so fast. Kicking them you and shooting on the run is a challenging way to fill a permit.
 
Re: leading a running whitetail...

Not so much on the shooting at a whitetail running full speed thing. Shooting at a walking whitetail is one thing but one that's hauling ass in thick cover like your picture is a recipe for disaster.
 
Re: leading a running whitetail...

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Spazz</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Wait for the deer to stop, and practice shooting more. This post as well as the post you made here absolutely terrify me. I'd never hunt with or around you... </div></div>

To each his own. the button buck's neck was in plain view and a clear shot with plenty of back stop. it's a shot anyone here would have taken if given the opportunity. I knew he was either quartering away to the right, or straight on with no clear shot to the boiler room. In retrospect, there was no way to know it was a button until it was down given the size and color of the nubs. In either case it's a legal (DEAD) deer and in Allegheny county you have 2 choices - antlerless and antlered. you take what you can get - we are not managing the herd here, it's huge and out of control. It NEEDS thinned out and opportunities abound for deer hunters.

The running shots yesterday - again I say if it had been with my shotgun, i would not have needed the second shot - the first one would be in the grind pile right now waiting for me to get done with work and finish the processing. Difference in shooting technique and I thought alot about this today. I've never missed a trotting or running shot with my shotgun. I think the reason for this is because of all the wing shooting I do with it...it is natural to use a "following" shot when i have that weapon.

I have a mental block with the 308 that I'm trying to overcome and thought yesterday that the ambush method was the cats meow...since the bullet travels so fast, i now know the error of my ways and invite you up saturday to see what it's really like here. tight hilly woods with alot of undergrowth, interspersed with logging and gas well roads as well as powerline clearcuts all over the place giving alot of opportunity for quick shots. Hunting in PA will make you a better hunter elsewhere...trust me on that, it's a different animal here. I've hunted a number of other states and none compare to the challenge here.

I made a mistake - I'll wear the tall pointy hat. I'll also grow from this mistake. I'm just glad i didn't injure a deer learning this one and I had 2 clean misses. If you think my practices are bad spazz, you ought not come up here at all to hunt. I've heard shots coming from the next valley over where folks have emptied a rifle into a running group of does like this before. I heard on the 2way on saturday some guy say (after a volley of 6 shots) that he was out of ammo, could someone bring him some of the .270's for his 30.06. He stated on the radio that they will chamber just fine, just that the bullet is a "little" underbore and will shoot just fine close range.

Believe me...i'm not the one you gotta watch out for here. My heads on straight for the most part and i'm WILLING to learn.
 
Re: leading a running whitetail...

"I knew he was either quartering away to the right, or straight on with no clear shot to the boiler room. In retrospect, there was no way to know it was a button until it was down given the size and color of the nubs."

Please refer to a previous post by larbhills.
 
Re: leading a running whitetail...

Thanks for the math, bohem.

The whitetail I usually hunt will stop to look back at some point when I lay chase. I haven't taken a running shot on a whitetail for this reason.

However, if the deer you're chasing are like the elk I've hunted, I would have taken the same shot, no question. Better luck luck next time!
 
Re: leading a running whitetail...

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jpretle</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Please refer to a previous post by larbhills. </div></div>

All i have to say to that is that there's meat in my freezer now. How's your season going? Feel better yet? I knew I'd take heat from some of the armchair quarterbacks on this board but in all honesty the only real meaningful post in this thread of opinions is about 10 posts up. Thanks again for opening my eyes to the error in using ambush theory when chasing deer. bohem, THANK YOU. I totally grasp the concept and need to find a good way to put this into practice. I'm thinking a cable and couple pullys at the farm with a milk jug filled with water will be the perfect solution. I have JUST the spot to put this too and will likely construct in the spring.

if for any reason you would pass up a sure shot on your quarry of choice because the moon and venus are not properly aligned, because the wind was dead still, and because an ant farted in zimbabwe and you did not practice for that scenario, then so be it. Plenty of room for frozen corn and peas in your freezer i guess. Sometimes, you just gotta do what you just gotta do.

They don't call PA hunters "The Orange Army" just for schitzengiggles. Second week into firearms season, the deer know you are looking for them, they know they are being hunted, and you do all in your power to make it happen. (sarcasm)

btw - how much time do you spend taking cracks at squirrels with the 22? that right there is the lions share of my real world marksmanship and I like to think i'm a pretty damn good shot. no ace by any means, but it escapes me that i'm having a harder time with the deer than I had with the bushy tails earlier this year.
 
Re: leading a running whitetail...

Jason, my advice at this point would be to let the naysayers have their time and ignore them... you've got some stuff to work with now, I hope my post above was clear to what happened, good luck if you take a shot like this again. I know someone who's hit ratio for shots like this is north of 90%. He's a competitive trap shooter, but you get the idea. The mechanics are the same.

Continuing to argue on either side of this isn't doing anything to convince either party.
 
Re: leading a running whitetail...

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bohem</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> I know someone who's hit ratio for shots like this is north of 90%.

Continuing to argue on either side of this isn't doing anything to convince either party.
</div></div>

So that's 10% gut shot and not recovered then?

And as far as having meat in the freezer, I killed two deer and one antelope with four shots this year. None knew I was there until the were shot.
 
Re: leading a running whitetail...

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: larbhills</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bohem</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> I know someone who's hit ratio for shots like this is north of 90%.

Continuing to argue on either side of this isn't doing anything to convince either party.
</div></div>

So that's 10% gut shot and not recovered then?

And as far as having meat in the freezer, I killed two deer and one antelope with four shots this year. None knew I was there until the were shot. </div></div>

So what about your 75% ratio?

I didn't say he didn't kill the deer, I said it's a 90%+ hit rate.
 
Re: leading a running whitetail...

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bohem</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: larbhills</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bohem</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> I know someone who's hit ratio for shots like this is north of 90%.

Continuing to argue on either side of this isn't doing anything to convince either party.
</div></div>

So that's 10% gut shot and not recovered then?

And as far as having meat in the freezer, I killed two deer and one antelope with four shots this year. None knew I was there until the were shot. </div></div>

So what about your 75% ratio?

I didn't say he didn't kill the deer, I said it's a 90%+ hit rate. </div></div>

Well it was like this. I snuck up on this herd of about 50 antelope. The closest doe was about 75 yards away. I was on the bipod and had plenty of time. Shooting a Savage PC 308 by the way. The doe was facing me and she was starting to perk up and look in my direction. I didn't have much cover. I took the chest shot with her facing me and the bullet went outside the chest cavity. I probably pulled the shot but it surprised me. It destroyed her left front quarter and she ran about half a mile before I shot her in the head. It really sucked. I'm pretty set on broadside shots from now on. What I'm trying to say is that I am very fond of quick clean kills. Passing up a shitty shot is a sign of maturity in a hunter, I think. FYI the next two shots were a 350 yard shot to the heart and lungs of a muley buck and then a 75 yard shot to the lungs of a muley doe. Man, I wish I could have killed that antelope with the first shot.
 
Re: leading a running whitetail...

JasonB, JasonB, JasonB. Isn't it a bit hypocritical make reference to 'armchair quarterbacks'?
By your own admission you lack the experience to succeed in what you attempted. Having experienced your failure, you gained experience and now seek guidance. For that you are to be commended.
By the statements you have made, it is indeed unfortunate and at the same time, a given you will pursue similar experiences, so keep the following in mind the next time your finger touches the trigger.

"Experience enables you to recognize a mistake when you make it again." (Franklin P. Jones)

Perhaps there will be a 'recognition', before the trigger is touched.
 
Re: leading a running whitetail...

Montana != Pennsylvania.

I'm hard pressed to get a clear shot further than 80-100 yards here.

stikkaforkinnit.. thanks again for the info bohem
 
Re: leading a running whitetail...

I'm on the other side of the state from you and I am lucky enough to have a few places I can hunt that are wide open or over looking fields,.. Polelines & pipelines suck unless your target is moving up or down them. I would think you would want a wider space to "swing" than a gas line.

If I have to make a shot at a running deer or anything with a scoped rifle I drop my power setting as low as it can go if I have time,. If not I am "tracking" as best I can,. And I don't always get the round off before they are gone,.. Just how it goes.

I got a doe opening day & missed the chance to take a shot at a monster of a buck this last Monday because I couldn't get a good enough position quick enough to get my gun (.300WM Remy 700 5R=heavy ***** unsupported) steady for a clean shot.

By all means work & practice making that kind of shot,.. Just make sure the round will hit next time
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Re: leading a running whitetail...

this whole thing got even more interesting saturday. I know i'm gonna take shit for this but i'm just gonna lay it out there.

Last week after two misses, i thought it was my gun. i had shot at a small target to verify zero and knocked the snot out of that target. So i was convinced it was not the gun, and all me.

I went out saturday, and got 2 shots at a slowly walking and a standing doe at different times. The standing doe, I had a good rest on the side of a tree fort. The walking deer, no hair. the standing deer with a rest - enough brisket hair on the ground to make another deer. I waited 10 mins before going down to check out the hit. I felt really good about it and when i got down there i found a PILE of hair but it was dark gray and there was no blood. I also found my bullet impact in the snow - no blood. I followed the doe's trail for about a half mile where it hit the cut corn fields at the top of the valey and it was walking by this time. no drips...no green body fluids from a gut shot, no blood, no nothing...my FIL concurs after tracking the same deer himself to see if i missed anything on the track - that deer was not hurt..she was lucky as hell, and got a new lease on life.

She quit running about 30 yards out from the place i shot (at) her and once she got into the field, her prints mingled with those of other deer that had been in the field that morning and were impossible to tell apart. she was not hurt...I think i skimmed her brisket. I just don't get it. I'm putting the rifle away for a while until i can take it back out to the range. I checked all the easy stuff, nothing is loose, the action is bolted down tight as are all the scope rings and scope mount screws. On the way out of the woods, I took a steady shot at a piece of lichen on a tree about the size of a golf ball from about 50 yards away - my hit was dead nuts for elevation (which is about 1" too low) and dead center. So I don't think it's the scope - i'm gonna take a wild guess and call it the nut behind the butt but seriously..why would i be getting the jitters with this rifle and not with my shotgun? the 500 Mossy is the hammer of Thor..i pull trigger, and deer drops, no questions asked. The bullets i'm using in the .308 are 150 grain hornady interlocks. From what i'm told here and other places - these bullets do a FINE job when they hit. Last year i punched a doe at 40 yards with a single hit using federal factory 150 grain soft points and that doe took about 10 leaps and fell over. Something is VERY quirky right now and I'm ready to change ammo to a different bullet. (load this time out was 44.5gr varget, cci primer, winchester brass, full lenth resize, lee factory crimp, and the hornady 3031 bullets, load chrony'd at 2730 fps)

I am one very frustrated deer hunter right now. Luckily for me, we are out of the regular firearms season now and all i have left is a month or so of special regulations slug gunning for does. I'll fill the freezer in january.

Starting to think that with the .308 at least - I should lauch the biggest projectile I can get, and slow it down to 65mph...that should stack the odds a little more in my favor :-\
 
Re: leading a running whitetail...

A fast walking deer @ a 100 yards you pull right on the front of the brisket. Your
running deer is a bit tougher. Full tilt can be 30 or 45, if it's quartering away
it really reduces your lead. I have led antelope 25 feet when broadside at 200.
You just need to do the math, make a chart and study it until it's in your memory.
Or live with a lot more misses than hits. Very few people become good at running
animals if they start as an adult. The hundreds of hours a
kid spends in the field with a pellet gun and a 22 seem to be what developes
one into a good field shooter later in life. But don't feel bad, Everybody around
Great Falls who grew up with Lonus Wigger still stands in awe of his running game
shots. He went on to be one of the worlds best marksman. So it isn't common.
 
Re: leading a running whitetail...

I too prefer to wait for the deer to stop, percentages are better for me. But I too will shoot at moving game if I have a good shot, using follow through back to front.
Your gun is sighted, ammo is good, you have a steady rest and good target shot later, but you don't get kill when hunting? Do you remember actually "seeing" the crosshairs on the animal, this is not criticism, sometimes in the excitement we see the animal, but don't place the shot. A shotgun can be more forgiving in this area.
 
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agreed about a shotgun being more forgiving - in my case though, comparing hits with the shotty vs. the rifle, my shotgun is a rifled slug gun with cantilever bbl and small scope. it's point and click...DRT. I know this will sound absurd, but my eyes are accustomed to sighting with crosshairs - i use them on every gun i have, and vision is tuned with enough time behind the keyboard of FPS entertainment that my mental visualization is spot on. we'll see what happens later in the spring. We have a cable in place already for our "moving target" practice and will be able to move a 12" gong for about 40 yards at various speeds. practicing on this will DEFINITELY make us (my FIL and I) better shots.

have not had time to take the 308 back to the range yet...Christmas is driving me NUTS. gonna be a few months before the 308 gets pointed at animals again, so i'm in no rush.
 
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I like the way different people deer hunt. Some sit by a corn feeder waiting for it to go off, deer walk out and you shoot em. Some people sit by a big food plot and lure em in, then shoot em. My favorite spot it shoot em out of the trk window. Here in Arkansas dogs are allowed and that was how I was raised up. Try to get your 2K optics focused on a deer running, did I say running 300yds out in a clearcut. Now he ain't gonna stop with 3 or 4 dogs hot on his ass. Some peoples version of ethical differs from others peoples version of ethical. Deer hunting has really changed in last 30yrs and mostly for the worse. Some peoples version of deer hunting is no different than someone paying me for one of my cows and shooting it by a hay ring. No difference! Too each his own, but if the deer don't stop, Please just lead him and shoot!
 
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I shoot running deer farily often. Killed two like that last week.
One was knocked down by a friend and jumped up and was running flat out at about 250 yards. I just swung through and shot when the CH passed what I wanted to hit. Center chest shot. Heard the bullet hit and deer ran on.
I went in to look for it and another big 10 jumped up and ran through the timber. I shot 3 times and killed it. 3 chest hits. Range 80-100 yards Rifle was an M40A1 with the 10x MST 100. Other deer was dead near this one. Both times I thought it was a wounded deer.
For me and that 14 pound rifle, the secret is to do alot of offhand target shooting. Then when the deer runs just swing and shoot when you pass the chest. The more figuring I try to do the more ikely I am to miss. JMO
 
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Like anything, hitting running deer gets easier with practice.
Around here, clubs run deer with hounds and shoot them when they break cover.

I know several guys who routinely put them down in a dead run at 100-200 yards.
Since the dogs are on them, a miss is confirmed by a continued chase.

It's a tradition and a way of life in these parts.
Judge if you wish, but it makes for some fun hunting.
 
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Hello,

I'm from eastern NC and not so many years ago pretty much the only way we hunted deer was with dogs. This meant of course that most all shots were at running deer. There are different "degrees" of running as far as deer are concerned; a deer bounding along bouncing up and down is relatively easy to hit, a deer running flat out looks like he is about knee high with no bouncing and his legs are moving too fast to see. These running deer are very hard to hit and any shot is iffy at best. The best shot on a bounding deer is to follow him in your scope and with some lead shoot when his front legs hit the ground. Dependent on range aim about where the front of his nose is. If you are following the deer with your scope inside 100 yds this should almost always be a chest shot. By following/tracking the deer in your scope you will minimize your internal lock time/reaction time, as has been previously mentioned.

While running dogs some shot opportunities are in open fields but a large number may be as a deer is crossing a gas line right of way or pulp wood road. Plenty of deer are taken each year with these types of shots. Yes I have to concede that the occasional deer is not recovered but that is true with any hunting scenario. Some of these "good ol boys" can really shoot and nay sayers that never shoot running game would be shocked to see how well.

Hunting with dogs is not as PC as it once was especially with all the transplants we have here now. I have not hunted with dogs in going on 20 years or so, my choice. Now days my hunting is from a stand or drifting the creek in my canoe.

Shooting at a running deer is no different than shooting at a running coyote or hog or at flying ducks or geese. We as hunters should respect the game animals we hunt but just because a technique is taboo in one area doesn't mean it is immoral. Just because a deer is gut shot doesn't mean it won't be recovered. Assuming it is not recovered though, no animal in the wild that has died from human hands or by other means has ever gone to waste. Deer die in the woods everyday. As hunters we are predators. I doubt a cougar/bear/coyote has ever lost any sleep over a prey animal they may have wounded that escaped. Other than maybe going hungry. We as humans use too much emotion sometimes in these matters.

To each his own just do it safely.

Sim
 
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I have taken many deer at full run with the "ambush method". have the crosshairs steady. wait for it to come into the scope. As soon as it hits the cross hairs pull the trigger. Bullet will hit 3-8" from POA. BUT REMEMBER as the deer runs it bounces up and down. If you are not careful it will JUMP the cross hairs. leading has never worked for me AMBUSH or intercept method has always worked better.

I personally would change your hunting habits. I never pull the trigger UNLESS I KNOW I got the shot. Something I started doing a couple years ago after the freezer is full go back with your gun but NO bullets and practice dry firing on them. After you do this a few times buck fever goes away. When you practice shooting them by dry firing remember to go through the fundamentals and follow through. Buck fever will blow follow through and that is critical with ambush running shots. This year I got a vid recorder and used Velcro straps to strap it to the stock. When you go back and watch the vid you will hear the firing pin hit and you can tell where the round would have hit.

It is more rewarding to hunt and use stealth to close the distance and shoot them when they are stomping the ground tiring to figure out what you are then jumping them and tiring to shoot as they run. Chances are they will be at the same spot tomorrow.

As for ethics. two weeks ago I was in Pennsylvania and a friend showed me his hunting club. I couldn't believe it. half the guys got in trees the other half got dogs and drove the woods with dogs. Most shot were full runs. Now we got the Amish coming into our public hunting grounds and they get 20-30 men and drive the woods. To me hunting should be you, the woods and your prey. You made the kill not a dog chasing one to you...
 
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I personally don't shoot running game for several reasons; first of all I consider game to be a gift and we owe it to ourselves to make as clean a kill as possible for the animal's sake. Secondly, when you are rushed it's hard for you to make an accurate assesment of your surroundings and backdrop and I want to know what is behind my target before I take the shot. You stated that you are hunting with friends and all of you are walking. Could be a really bad combination unless you are 100% sure as to the locations of all of your hunting partners and all others who may be in the area, known or unknown.
Do yourself a favor and make clean kills, it's just as satisfying and much safer.
 
Re: leading a running whitetail...

what are you doing wrong? you're taking an unethical shot at a deer...

do people need to shoot a deer that bad, that a running target is the only opportunity you get?

how in the hell can you even remotely get a confident shot in the vitals at a running animal?

shooting a wounded animal is a completley different thing... I don't beleive there is an unethical shot for an animal that's already been wounded.
 
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These notions of nobility are amusing.

Some of the same people who say that you should never shoot at running game will scoff at the idea of shooting ducks on the water or quail on the ground. How does that balance out?

The deer has no moral precedence over a rat, or even a mosquito for that matter.

If you choose to shoot at them on the run, then do so.
if you hit it in the gut and it runs 200 yards before dying, then so be it.

How many birds have you knocked upside down on the wing and they kept going? Do you think they're OK now?
 
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I think you're confusing nobility with common sense tucker.

shooting at a running deer, at essentially guesitmated distances with a rifle (I'm nto hearing talk about shotguns here), is laughable at best.
 
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this...from a guy in texas.

I googled "hunt texas deer" and this is the first pic that comes up.

deer-feeder.jpg


then i googled "hunt PA deer"

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those backdrops look a little different. We've all seen episodes of the big bucks of tecomate and i'd love to sit in a shoot shack and wait for a giant buck to come strolling thru a sendero but to be honest, i put quite a few miles on my boots scouting and stalking deer. I prefer to still hunt, not stand hunt, and PA is pretty tight. especially 2 weeks into gun season when the deer know why you are wearing orange, and what you are there to do.
people live in bubbles like it or not. PA hunting ain't easy...make no mistake about it. no, it's not elk chasing in idaho...it ain't billy goat hunting in new mexico...but I didn't call the thread anything but "leading a whitetailed deer" and it goes without saying that I hunt primarily in PA. Your perception of ethical hunting changes based on your bubble of reality. my reality is different than yours.

isn't there a HUGE section on thi site about hitting a moving target WAY out yonder using both intercept (or ambush) method, AND the follow method? Just sayin...
 
Re: leading a running whitetail...

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: kyle1974</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I think you're confusing nobility with common sense tucker.

shooting at a running deer, at essentially guesitmated distances with a rifle (I'm nto hearing talk about shotguns here), is laughable at best. </div></div>

You are equating the rest of the world and the people in it to your own very limited knowledge and experiences.
The clubs in these parts kill hundreds of deer each season, per club, using rifles and shooting them on the run in front of dogs.
I know some individuals who routinely kill over a dozen deer per year, and the vast majority are shot on the run with rifles.

As for distances, 2" high @ 100 yards will do just fine around here, because we rarely see wide-opened spaces in excess of 200 yards.
 
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Good point, JasonB.
I forgot that they get to shoot them at feeders out there in TX.
That's illegal in my state.
 
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Looks to me like there are a whole bunch of people that can't shoot good enough to hit a moveing target, and envy people that can!

Just because you can't shoot and kill a moveing target doesn't mean there aren't people that can.
 
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who would have thought you could pull a trail camera photo right off google. Incredible research.

just keep shooting ace...I'm sure you'll connect with one sooner or later.
 
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Gents,
I refrained from this thread as long as I could stand it. Many here are deciding that thier way is the only way to hunt. Elitism in hunting and trout fishing is becoming our own worst enemy for the outdoorsman/woman. Heck, about a year ago or so I even saw comments to the editor of "American Hunter" if I remember correctly, over an article about spot and stalk hunting. A couple of readers chastised the writer for being "unsafe" and called shooting game offhand on the move "unethical" by the hunting show indoctrinated tree stand and bait pile only hunters bred of the last decade.... Unbelievable. This is the oldest, most basic, and skill requisite form of hunting there is!!!!

I have killed several deer while bowhunting WV in the mountains in my 20 years of doing such. I have only used a treestand for one buck I killed, and most of the others have been spot and stalk or ambushed. Do I have hunting skill, or am I just lucky? I like to think its a little skill with a good bit of luck. Do I think bait and stand hunting is the bane of hunting? Definitely not. Do I prefer it? Not at all. From my limited travels across the nation I have come to the view that they are effective and ethical means of harvesting game in appropriate situations. They are becoming more and more utilized in the farmland areas of my own state in recent years, and are very effective when acorns are scarce. For most of my life baiting deer was illegal, and is still frowned upon by many in WV.

Now I will tell you that if you come to the mountain areas of WV to deer hunt, and decide you are going to wait for a deer to come by and give you that perfect standing shot while hunting in the mountains in the woods of WV, you may be waiting many years in fact to get one chance, depending on where you hunt, and mast conditions. Deer here don't always follow a pattern due to scarce food in the woods. In plentiful acorn years they may bed down all day and move almost exclusively at night. About half of the deer I have shot with both gun and bow were at the least walking by or away. I have shot many a moving deer with my rifle that were moving faster, although like all good hunters ,I prefer taking the best shot available to me, and try to get a deer standing still when at all possible, though it is not usually going to happen. Public land hunting, (where I hunt mostly), after 30 minutes of the opening day makes finding an unspooked buck in the semi-open as likely as hitting the 100,000 dollar mark on a lottery ticket. It happens, but not real often. Oh yeah, the deer bed down in briars and multiflora rose thickets and become nocturnal as well, so go ahead and wait for the one to walk out and stand still over your bait... Oops, you still can't bait them on public lands..... there goes that strategy.

Now let me say that shooting game on the move takes practice to learn. Skeet shooting is great for learning the skill, but using a scoped rifle is a little different. For those crying foul on the ethics of such, I say this: If you are looking for a 100% foolproof way to put meat on the table with no chance of wounding an animal, I suggest the local grocery. I have seen even stand hunters have a zero go south for various reasons and wound animals horribly. You do what you can with the game and terrain you have to hunt, and strive to do it in a manner that reduces chance of wounding an animal. Only the individual hunter knows in his head if he could have done it better when a shot goes bad.

For those who would not hunt with us eastern mongols because we shoot game on the move, you probably wouldn't want to hunt here anyway. Its steep and woody and most deer you would want to shoot will be in transit (or preparing to do so when you get that rare chance)to the next county by the time you see them. For the rest, learn to track, don't trap, and make sure there is no orange in your scope. I have nevered frowned upon hunting with folks of a different background as long as they aren't looking down on mine. On SAFETY: You must ALWAYS be able to see your impact area and clear it in the event you miss!!!!!! I am not advocating blazing away on the run. I move VERY slowly through the woods, and when a deer brakes out, I have already scanned the surrounding terrain for likely areas to shoot and for those to not shoot towards. (ridgelines, communities, houses, roads, etc). Best of luck to all who strive to hunt safely and ethically!