I have been moving everything over to left hand. Which is a better action? Should I build on the mausingfield or should I just buy the aiax? I think it would be more cost effective to build but I have no experience with either action.
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Left hand mausingfield vs aiax 300 win
- Thread starter Dogsniper
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What is your use for a 300 WM? If it's hunting, you probably want to build because an AIAX will be quite hefty. If it's just shooting on the range, I don't know of anyone who has regretted an AI purchase.
Both. I don't mind heavy guns. I want to know which action will not fail with hard use. I currently have a stiller tac 300. In right handed. when I burn the barrel out I will be selling my parts and moving to a left hand rig.
I can switch barrels myself with both systems. I just have to have barrels spun up with flats if I go mausingfield. I can alway have a spare in the stable ready to go. I think it would be a less expensive route with a mausingfield.
If you throw a $3k BA in an AIAX chassis, it would be significantly cheaper than a new AIMC. So unless you have a ton of disposable income, and just want an AI, I would probably go the build route. And I'm an AI fan boy.
AI AXMC all the way. With that rifle you can 300WM as well as anything else that use that bolt face, you can get a 338 Lapua bolt and run anything that uses that bolt, and you can get a 308 bolt and mag adaptor and run any short action round that uses the standard bolt face. You can also run short action magnums.
The best feature of all that you aren’t going to get with any custom 300WM build is the double stack 10 round mags. Sure you can get a 10rd AICS pattern mag but you better be running a damn tall bipod or you’ll have a monopod with that mag whether you want one or not.
When you consider the possibilities of all the other calibers you can run with only a couple minutes between swaps and a 4mm Allen wrench (which is stored under the butt), then the AI becomes a far greater value. Never mind the optics cost for putting glass on multiple rifles.
My AXMC is by far my favorite rifle and I don’t see that changing.
The best feature of all that you aren’t going to get with any custom 300WM build is the double stack 10 round mags. Sure you can get a 10rd AICS pattern mag but you better be running a damn tall bipod or you’ll have a monopod with that mag whether you want one or not.
When you consider the possibilities of all the other calibers you can run with only a couple minutes between swaps and a 4mm Allen wrench (which is stored under the butt), then the AI becomes a far greater value. Never mind the optics cost for putting glass on multiple rifles.
My AXMC is by far my favorite rifle and I don’t see that changing.
Price wise of course the custom will be cheaper, but you can also get a good deal on a AI and shave a significant amount off it’s cost too.
The mausingfield will be a great rifle but it’s still no AI. AI takes the cake for field reliability and has features you simply cannot get on the mausingfield. Therefor it’s completely apples to oranges.
The AI could possibly be the last bolt gun you ever buy because of the multi caliber capabilities, the mausingfield most likely would not.
The mausingfield will be a great rifle but it’s still no AI. AI takes the cake for field reliability and has features you simply cannot get on the mausingfield. Therefor it’s completely apples to oranges.
The AI could possibly be the last bolt gun you ever buy because of the multi caliber capabilities, the mausingfield most likely would not.
How is the Mausingfield not every bit as reliable as an AI? Seriously asking...
Multi Caliber? Grab an ARC Barloc, bolt face and switch calibers until you run out of money.
Besides a 60* bolt throw what are you missing? Assuming you get a very reliable 700 pattern trigger for the Mausingfield.
I need to get behind one and send some rounds down range. I have a tl3 I built for a short action switch barrel set up and it is great!!!!
I'm not planning on switching large calibers but I like the option if I decide too.
I have not seen any used left hand aiax mc left hand 300 win for sale anywhere. Desert tech could be an option as well.
no disrespect, but its not even a question...AI.
Just look at the classified (here or elswhere), you see alot of rifles for sale that had the "newest hottest action" at one time. anyone remember back when surgeon was the be all end all of actions...now they are not even discussed anymore. did they stop shooting strait, nope, its just the old flavor of the month.
not taking away from Mausingfields at all, they have proven to be great actions and you can customize the crap out of them.
But (i have said this before on here), what happens when your special triangle lugs take a crap one day and he sold his company...you have a really nice expensive stick with a scope.
When something dies on a AI (all rifles shit the bed sooner or later), you order the part online, receive it UPS the next day and you are back to shooting with a OEM part.
every other day there is a AI vs XXXX rifle/action. almost unanimously the answers are buy once cry once AI. its been like that for as long as there has been internet blogs/posts....and for good reason.
as far as accuracy, you wont see either one at a benchrest competition so its a draw on that front.
Any quality straight action with a quality straight barrel will shoot 3/8-1/2" groups at 100 with factory match ammo these days, so dont worry about that either.
after all that its really up to what chassis or stock, if the AI is not comfortable for you it makes the decision that much easier.
or find a used AXMC and just get a new barrel, you wont get the original depreciation drop and have exactly what you need.
and by the way if you are even considering a AXMC, you will always wonder what you are missing out on. happens to all of us.
ive wasten so much on customs over the years trying to buy a rifle that should be "better", and at the end of the day i now have 3 AI's. sold a few customs, and gave 2 to my brothers. of course light weight hunting rigs are a different story.
Just look at the classified (here or elswhere), you see alot of rifles for sale that had the "newest hottest action" at one time. anyone remember back when surgeon was the be all end all of actions...now they are not even discussed anymore. did they stop shooting strait, nope, its just the old flavor of the month.
not taking away from Mausingfields at all, they have proven to be great actions and you can customize the crap out of them.
But (i have said this before on here), what happens when your special triangle lugs take a crap one day and he sold his company...you have a really nice expensive stick with a scope.
When something dies on a AI (all rifles shit the bed sooner or later), you order the part online, receive it UPS the next day and you are back to shooting with a OEM part.
every other day there is a AI vs XXXX rifle/action. almost unanimously the answers are buy once cry once AI. its been like that for as long as there has been internet blogs/posts....and for good reason.
as far as accuracy, you wont see either one at a benchrest competition so its a draw on that front.
Any quality straight action with a quality straight barrel will shoot 3/8-1/2" groups at 100 with factory match ammo these days, so dont worry about that either.
after all that its really up to what chassis or stock, if the AI is not comfortable for you it makes the decision that much easier.
or find a used AXMC and just get a new barrel, you wont get the original depreciation drop and have exactly what you need.
and by the way if you are even considering a AXMC, you will always wonder what you are missing out on. happens to all of us.
ive wasten so much on customs over the years trying to buy a rifle that should be "better", and at the end of the day i now have 3 AI's. sold a few customs, and gave 2 to my brothers. of course light weight hunting rigs are a different story.
You're probably not going to see any for sale but if you call Euro Optic and talk to Jason I bet you can get one for what most people what for a used one. There are deals to be had.
Desert Techs blow, I had two and you couldn't give me another. The trigger is absolute shit, the ergonomics are shit, the magazine position sucks for using a bag as support if you have to do a mag change which is very likely with their limited capacity, and I had nothing but feeding issues with all but long action rounds. I'm not the only one who has had this experience. They also feel cheap to me compared to an AI or high end custom, reminds me of a glorified keltec. Yes, I just compared Desert Tech to keltec.
I agree with what is said above.
The only thing I will throw in to the discussion is you will be stuck with the AI trigger - there are not currently aftermarket replacements, and the trigger is not very adjustable. If you love it, great. If you don't love it, tough.
The one thing I did not love about the Mausingfield was how easy it was to loose brass at matches - throws the hell out of your brass with that mechanical ejector. More so than TL3 for some reason.
I will the AI action has been my favorite I have ever used to date.
The only thing I will throw in to the discussion is you will be stuck with the AI trigger - there are not currently aftermarket replacements, and the trigger is not very adjustable. If you love it, great. If you don't love it, tough.
The one thing I did not love about the Mausingfield was how easy it was to loose brass at matches - throws the hell out of your brass with that mechanical ejector. More so than TL3 for some reason.
I will the AI action has been my favorite I have ever used to date.
Not necessarily a fair comparison. A Surgeon is like pretty much every other aftermarket rem700 clone action - it's a Remington 700 action built with better QA/QC and tolerances, with some slight design tweaks. A Mausingfield is a new action designed from the ground up to incorporate the best features over multiple different actions. To compare a Surgeon and a Mausingfield is an apples to oranges comparison.
With the AI and the Mausingfield, they have been designed from the ground up, and are NOT just tweaks on a rem700 action much like most other custom actions. They are both designed to be reliable in harsh conditions. Where they differ is that the AI was designed as a complete system, the Mausingfield is just an individual action.
Both will be ruggedly dependable. The AI will do it out of the box, while the Mausingfield build will require careful consideration of the other components of the rifle if pure reliability is the end goal.
My vote is Mausingfield. I have mutliple custom rifles and multiple custom actions, and although I'm very early on into my ownership of the Mausingfield, I've been very impressed so far. And as far as the AI envy - I wondered if I was going to get it, but after handling mutliple AI's I don't regret for a minute not going AI. They are great systems, but you are stuck with the system. Love it or hate it, you are stuck with the trigger, chassis, etc. For some people this works, but for myself, I prefer to build a rifle to my body build and specs. It's like buying made to measure clothes off the rack - sometimes it fits, but usually it requires some slight tweaking. If you get tailored clothes, they fit perfect - granted the tailor knows what they are doing.
To the op I am left-handed and own both also you will not regret the purchase of either one I'm curious to why you want to machine Flats in the barrel verses using savage barrel nut. The mausingfield is designed off of the Mauser and Springfield action so reliability will not be an issue also places like Stocky's have high-quality prefit Savage barrels. good luck with your choice
I guess my question would be do you prefer chassis systems or conventional stocks I personally like conventional stocks so in my opinion that is where the AI fall short
That is my favorite stock out of all the ones I have also.... sounds like the mausingfield is the one for you haha
I have seen some people pull there AI AT out of the chassis that it's glued to and install them in others like an MPA and it's got me thinking about doing the same to mine only in a stock not sure if I care to do that yet but it's in my brain
For this rifle just to have a spare barrel I can throw on when the throat is trashed on the other. I don't like barrel nuts or having to use a barrel vise.
