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Please do... I hate the possibility of having a very expensive paperwieght.
I have my new 2700-b side by side with a 1600 and it measures identical. So I would say yesCan someone confirm that the LRI mount I have for my 1600B will work with the 2700B?
even being limited to using G1 bc's (verses actual drag measurements with the Kestrel), the drops were within .1 MOA all the way out to 950, which was as far as the charts on Leica's site went. I then tweaked the bc a tiny bit, and got the max discrepancy down to .05 MOA, with the peak divergence being at about 700 yards. At 950, they were dead on together.
This was my experience as well. I'm excited to see how well the live in rangefinder temp/pressure/altitude and Angle will play out in the field. Can't wait to get out for a day of long range steel and see how it works as some of those factors change throughout a day. For example last time i was out I had 13.7mils to 1400 yards later in the day It took 13.2 same target same firing position. But weather had changed (I also attribute some of that to my RL19 powder temp. temp up=velocity up) but none the less... The more variables I can get automatically corrected for the better. I'm excited to see how good it can be.
Observations-
1 you can only have one file on a card at a time or you'll get an error
2 also those files can't be named "drop(1).hex" or "RL19ELD147.hex" they have to be "drop.hex"
3 You can/should have a separate card for each curve (or load) and swap back and forth. You don't have to go through any settings or menues when switching cards/curves, and the finder will reference the current inserted card for a solution. Just have to have an extra card for each load. VERY HANDY and Limited only by the number of cards you want to carry. They're pretty light
I'm assuming that with the ballistics loaded, it will give both range and drop? does it work in mils or just MOA?
how is it on smaller steel targets in the 600-1000 range? will it range 1 MOA targets at the distance easily? how is the scan mode?
how does the LRF compare to the bino models (leica, swaro, and the new zeiss - if anyone knows)
anyone have the laser beam specs for all of those binos and the sig2400?
I just got my 2700b today and set it up for the EHR. In the directions it says there will be an additional EHR reading, but mine only shows the distance. Do any of you guys that have used them for awhile seen an EHR reading for elevated shots? I have the ball setting set to off and the abc setting set to EHR. Thanks
Update I found you have to have one of the ball settings picked. It won't give EHR without it.
Yeah going out to 1500-1600 the Conx works fine, I don't know anyone who would want to shoot 3200 yards, I want one that goes out long ways that will give LOS and Degrees and Horizontal distance and the rest I can work out,^^ Getting accurate solutions at 2700 is generally not successful
for simple solvers . At the price point it’s pretty good even with no
solver included . Most guys shooting ELR ( successfully ) are often
runnning more than one solver , and are shooting beyond double
the effective useful range of the Conx .
Congrats, it sounds like a winner to me, that's awesome ranging on a deer by any standards.I got mine about a month ago, the furthest reading I got on a deer is 1487m, bright sunny winter day -7c (rangefinder on tripod) So far from what I have seen it's pretty much on par with the Terrapin. I have not played with the ballistic program and do not intend on using it...
I got mine about a month ago, the furthest reading I got on a deer is 1487m, bright sunny winter day -7c (rangefinder on tripod) So far from what I have seen it's pretty much on par with the Terrapin. I have not played with the ballistic program and do not intend on using it...
I've had mine out and tested vs what I usto get with my 1600b. I could not find any animals much past 1k since I got my 2700b, so can't comment there. It hit them easily to about 1100, but my 1600b would hit that distance as well on cows. I will say the cows I hit with the 1600 were probably 1250 or a little more, and it was not every time that I got a return and they were broadside and mostly white. The ones I found with the 2700 were facing towards me (so much smaller target), were black as opposed to white or brown, and it ranged them super easily every time, no problem at all.Hmm thats not that much better than I can consistently get with my 1600B...maybe the 2700B isn't worth the upgrade for me after all.
My biggest downfall with it is when you add your custom ballistic curve, you only can add one per memory card. Pointless in my opinion. This should have been considered in the development.I just picked one up. Replaced my Vortex Ranger 1500. Holdover corrections and Mil clicks seem pretty consistent with my Kestrel. I've been ranging all day on reflective surfaces at 1700 yds. My vortex wouldn't hit 800 reliably. Haven't seen 2700 out of it yet. But it's hard to spend all the time on your new toy when you other new toy was a Kahles.
I see what you mean, that means carrying a few memory cards and a wallet to keep em in.My biggest downfall with it is when you add your custom ballistic curve, you only can add one per memory card. Pointless in my opinion. This should have been considered in the development.
I see what you mean, that means carrying a few memory cards and a wallet to keep em in.
Sounds like a plan, If I am shooting with a buddy I have my data loaded in to the Conx and his data loaded in to my App then all I have to do is add the distance and the Angle to the App then I get the data for both rifles,What I've done is look for the closest programmed ballistic curve for the cartridge that i'm using and have them written down. That way if I have a buddy shooting a 6.5cm and I'm on my .308, I can get pretty close. Regardless this is where the kestrel is badass. I can store as many profiles that my heart desires. Plus anyway you aren't going to get ballistic corrections over 1000yd with the leica anyways. We typically are looking for going past that yardage anyways. Solid tool though. Good glass.
I've had mine out and tested vs what I usto get with my 1600b. I could not find any animals much past 1k since I got my 2700b, so can't comment there. It hit them easily to about 1100, but my 1600b would hit that distance as well on cows. I will say the cows I hit with the 1600 were probably 1250 or a little more, and it was not every time that I got a return and they were broadside and mostly white. The ones I found with the 2700 were facing towards me (so much smaller target), were black as opposed to white or brown, and it ranged them super easily every time, no problem at all.
Handheld, but leaning against shooting sticks or against a table, I was able to hit foliage on trees to about 2760. Could it go further? I don't know, that was all I had for targets. I suspect that if I had a tripod mount, and a good set of trees, it would because I had a really hard time being steady at that distance and still was able to get readings.
I hit telephone poles at 850, so MOAish targets but that's not much of a test. 2MOA targets out to our max distance we had available, 1123. Hit that with ease every time. Plates were red and yellow, no reflective tape etc.
While my 1600b was good at ranging, the 2700b has been a significant step up in my opinion. It ranges a whole lot further, it scans faster, but most of all, where my 1600b was reaching the limits of it's ranging capabilities, and therefore struggled, the 2700b does so without any stress at all. Ranging trees at 1700 is absolutely effortless under bright full sun and thick city haze, where with my 1600b, the conditions had to be really good to pull that off. Never tried it on a tripod, maybe it would go further, but I don't have a mount for the 2700 either.
What that means for me is that under not ideal conditions, very bright light, heavy haze etc.....ranging out to a mile and more on tree foliage has been ridiculously easily done, where my 1600b would fail under those conditions.
Depending on how you use your RF, ie...do you use the ballistics functions.....another huge upgrade might be the ability to use a custom curve. Because even if you are only ranging to, say 800 yards, if you are using the generic curves, they are sometimes not sufficient. Being able to use a custom curve for your load cleans up the accuracy in the ballistic returns, and also expands the distance where it will give you dope information (1000 yards with the card, 875 without it).
Of course, if you don't use the RF for anything other than raw data that you input into another solver, this is obviously not important. However, I will say, my 1600b was a good unit ranging wise, but my 2700b is doubtless better, especially useful under challenging conditions. Significantly, surer, faster, farther, at least in my experience so far.
HTH.
You can do that on the 2700b, or the 1600b for that matter. Just turn set 'ball' to no IIRC. Range, and you will get line of site distance. Then hit the red button and it will tell you temp, pressure and angle for you to enter into your solver. If you are running a Kestrel or whatever, the only one you need other than distance is the angle.Thanks for the heads up!! Sounds like an improvement overall! Thanks for the info sir! I have no intentions of using the ballistic app stuff in the RF itself. In fact I wish more would do like Nikon did on that approach. I wonder what the 2700B if Leica offered a model that didn't have that stuff in it and just had a range finder that spit out raw data to enter into a kestrel and/or a phone app.
You can do that on the 2700b, or the 1600b for that matter. Just turn set 'ball' to no IIRC. Range, and you will get line of site distance. Then hit the red button and it will tell you temp, pressure and angle for you to enter into your solver. If you are running a Kestrel or whatever, the only one you need other than distance is the angle.
The reason the ballistic stuff is in there is because it is about having a backup plan and the more options you have the less impact it will have when one or more gadgets fail, I worked out that I have 4 main options with a total 6 or 7+ choices on how I go about it, the difference is being able to shoot or packing up and going home,I know I can opt to not have the ballstic stuff display in it. I am saying I wish they wouldn't put it in there as an option at all or atleast let the consumer decide if they want the built in calculator in the RF as a premium. For some they like it, for those of us that don't want to pay for a part of the unit that we won't use it would be cool to not have to pay for something we will end up turning off anyways, but still want the pressure, and temp and angle.
Oh well first world problems for sure.
I really appreciate all your insight.
That's a Bugga, I wonder why they would do such a thing, The need to recall them all and fix that, even El Cheapo's give you that as an option, seems like they are destroying their sales targets right from the start.I might have overlooked the response, but is it MOA only? No option for MILs output?
incorrect. i use mine in mils. Set it up select 10mm and that will diplay the drop in mils. Ex. "58" is 5.8 mils or 58x.1mil clicks.That's a Bugga, I wonder why they would do such a thing, The need to recall them all and fix that, even El Cheapo's give you that as an option, seems like they are destroying their sales targets right from the start.
incorrect. i use mine in mils. Set it up select 10mm and that will diplay the drop in mils. Ex. "58" is 5.8 mils or 58x.1mil clicks.