A real PITA is going from my 700's 8 oz trigger to a 4# trigger on my RRA AR. My question is who makes a trigger, and which model# for an AR with the lightest pull ??
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An 8 ounce trigger on an AR sounds like an accident waiting to happen. eek
where did I say anything about an 8 oz. trigger in an AR ?? READ, I said "going from an 8 oz, trigger in a 700 ie, Rem 700, to 4 # in an AR ????????An 8 ounce trigger on an AR sounds like an accident waiting to happen. eek
Had jewell on my LBC. It would double tap sometime triple, when i had it at 1lbs
Les had it set at 3 lbs i think???
Who are these people?People have found themselves in federal prison, and I am not exagerating, for malfunctioning triggers causing it to go machine gun kelly.
People have found themselves in federal prison, and I am not exagerating, for malfunctioning triggers causing it to go machine gun kelly.
Don't fuck around with triggers, and stick to WELL known, proven designs like Gisselle, KAC, ect.
The Gisselle Hi speed DMR and National Match are about as good as you can get while being reliable and robust enough for heavy usage. They are the
pinance of the AR trigger.
Who are these people?
Because 18 U.S.C. Section 942(a)(2) makes punishable only "knowing" violations of Section 922(o). [See U.S. v. Ardoin, 19 F3d 177 (5th Cir. 1994)].
Therefore the government would have had to prove that the defendant knew of the characteristics of his AR that made it a machine gun.
In that case the Government proved, to two separate juries, that the defendant purchased and used M16 parts to assemble the rifle and that before he transferred it to someone else he knew the rifle fired fully automatic when the selector switch was placed in fully-automatic mode.
What's important is Scienter, which was proven beyond a reasonable doubt.I'd like to know what M16 parts he used. Was it a bcg? Or sear? Therein lies what is important.
where did I say anything about an 8 oz. trigger in an AR ?? READ, I said "going from an 8 oz, trigger in a 700 ie, Rem 700, to 4 # in an AR ????????
Jim, thank you for the Info, seams like you are the only one that answers questions and not interested in juvenile behavior
What's important is Scienter, which was proven beyond a reasonable doubt.
I wasn't arguing fairness, I was arguing that all the whining in the world about the flaws in the system doesn't matter, especially when you don't understand the system in the first place.
Of the 24/7 x 100 I have no doubt. You are absolutely right: The world functions the way you think it does, and anyone who sees anything else is full of it.Your full of shit. I could spend 24/7 for the next 100 years citing examples where people were prococuted, evidence suppressed and "innocent" people are found guilt "beyond a reasonable doubt" especialy when judges frame/force rules on a jury and they don't understand the whole point of why they are they....
Of the 24/7 x 100 I have no doubt. You are absolutely right: The world functions the way you think it does, and anyone who sees anything else is full of it.
Are you a federal prosecutor? Did you work on that case? Because your conclusions about it suggest access to information that is not in the public realm.
Why wasn't he charged with manufacturing? Relevant question: Manufacturing is 26 U.S.C Section 5861(f). He was not charged with that likely because there was insufficient proof that he manufactured in accordance with intending the parts to constitute a machine gun in one of the three enumerated ways under 26 U.S.C. section 5845(b).Please tell me what M16 Parts were used? You do realize, than a Semi - Ar15 uses 95%+ M16/M4 parts right? If he made an illegal machine gun, than why was he not charged and conviced of MANUFACTURING A MACHINGUN?
Thank you, I'll look bet they seam to be N I SDon't necessarily know if it's the lightest but the Geissele Hi Speed National Match second stage is 6-14oz. The first stage is 1.5-2.5 lbs so the total can be as light as 1.9-3.4 lbs. It is sometimes a transition between a single stage bolt trigger and a two stage AR trigger.
Thank you Mountain ManHow about you all get off this guys topic if you want to b*tch with one another go make your own topic in the right section.
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Under normal circumstances I would agree with you, but why would one want a lightest-pull AR trigger anyway? Is Barfcom down today, with only three hours left until deployment, or is the quest itself simply Operator as Fuck.How about you all get off this guys topic if you want to b*tch with one another go make your own topic in the right section.
Why would anyone want a lightest-pull AR trigger anyway? Is Barfcom down today, with only three hours left until deployment, or is the quest itself simply Operator as Fuck?
What if I'm already OAF? Does that mean that I need a heavier trigger in order to stay out of federal prison?
Put another way, if I shoot a rifle one-handed does that make it a pistol? Because people are telling me that if I ever shoot a SIG AR pistol from the shoulder it will become an SBR and I could end-up facing jail time.
... But only if the Trilateral Commission orders the black helicopters at the behest of the military-industrial complex.
Way too much craziness here for one day, gents.?
That's assuming that I am not the local authority.... LOL!Graham,
You have never dealt with the local authority, as I have. Why would you even go here?
Thank you, I'll look bet they seam to be N I S
No one "needs" lighter than 4.5 lbs on an AR---the records set by the National Match shooters with irons prove this to me. Very few of us will ever be able to shoot as well as they do. It's all about the break and Giess. and AR Gold got it down to a science. Have a great Wilson trigger also. Have not tried the new Hyperfire(?) yet.
Under normal circumstances I would agree with you, but why would one want a lightest-pull AR trigger anyway? Is Barfcom down today, with only three hours left until deployment, or is the quest itself simply Operator as Fuck.
He never asked for the lightest trigger available. He wanted to see what options are out there
Hiperfire triggers get pretty light. I have the reflex with the lightest springs . My pulls consistently at 1lb 14 oz.A real PITA is going from my 700's 8
oz trigger to a 4# trigger on my RRA AR. My question is who makes a trigger, and which model# for an AR with the lightest pull ??
the guy you replied to in this 6yr old thread has not been around in a few years.Hiperfire triggers get pretty light. I have the reflex with the lightest springs . My pulls consistently at 1lb 14 oz.