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Sidearms & Scatterguns Looking for a good home defense handgun
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Re: Looking for a good home defense handgun
Glock 19 with night sights.
They are simple, accurate, controllable, affordable, and rugged. The G19 also has relatively high capacity (15 rounds).
If you have small children you will probably also want a lockable box with either biometric locks or a simple and quick code lock, and probably a device to mount this box somewhere where you can get to it in the middle of the night (like a bedside nightstand).
Glock 19 with night sights.
They are simple, accurate, controllable, affordable, and rugged. The G19 also has relatively high capacity (15 rounds).
If you have small children you will probably also want a lockable box with either biometric locks or a simple and quick code lock, and probably a device to mount this box somewhere where you can get to it in the middle of the night (like a bedside nightstand).
Re: Looking for a good home defense handgun
There is only 1 pistol that I will stake my life on, and those that I care about... Glock.
You shoot them and decide what caliber and frame is best for you.
DK
There is only 1 pistol that I will stake my life on, and those that I care about... Glock.
You shoot them and decide what caliber and frame is best for you.
DK
Re: Looking for a good home defense handgun
I perfer a 40 or 45 for home defense simply for the stopping power. You dont want to have any doubt the intruder is down and out when hit. I personally have a full size smith and wesson m and p 40 on my side of the bed and my wife has a glock 19 in her night stand. Whatever you decide make sure you can work it blind folded. Pulling a trigger on an empty chamber could get you killed.
I perfer a 40 or 45 for home defense simply for the stopping power. You dont want to have any doubt the intruder is down and out when hit. I personally have a full size smith and wesson m and p 40 on my side of the bed and my wife has a glock 19 in her night stand. Whatever you decide make sure you can work it blind folded. Pulling a trigger on an empty chamber could get you killed.
Re: Looking for a good home defense handgun
Smith and Wesson Governor or Taurus Judge loaded with PDX 410 shells is a sure crowd pleaser.
Smith and Wesson Governor or Taurus Judge loaded with PDX 410 shells is a sure crowd pleaser.
Re: Looking for a good home defense handgun
870 pump! I know its not a handgun, but the best, in my opinion, for self defense period!!!
Eddie
870 pump! I know its not a handgun, but the best, in my opinion, for self defense period!!!
Eddie
Re: Looking for a good home defense handgun
Like I tell everyone I teach. Never buy a gun for home or personal defense, buy a gun because you enjoy shooting and want to make it part of your lifestyle and as a benifit let it protect your home and person as well... Otherwise you are on a one way street to an accidental or negligent discharge. This is 2012 there are tons of good options for home defense besides a firearm and most of them come lawsuite free.
I defend my home with a single stack 45 acp but Ive also spent years practicing and not once a month either at least once a week.
The above post is correct, nothing is better for home defense than a shotgun because you can tailor the shotshell to fit the enviroment. Example #8 shot for apartment. Further more I truly believe smaller than buckshot is far better forna defensive round.
Like I tell everyone I teach. Never buy a gun for home or personal defense, buy a gun because you enjoy shooting and want to make it part of your lifestyle and as a benifit let it protect your home and person as well... Otherwise you are on a one way street to an accidental or negligent discharge. This is 2012 there are tons of good options for home defense besides a firearm and most of them come lawsuite free.
I defend my home with a single stack 45 acp but Ive also spent years practicing and not once a month either at least once a week.
The above post is correct, nothing is better for home defense than a shotgun because you can tailor the shotshell to fit the enviroment. Example #8 shot for apartment. Further more I truly believe smaller than buckshot is far better forna defensive round.
Re: Looking for a good home defense handgun
I own and run a firearm training company.
Many x I have been asked this question.
I usually answer with a few questions of my own,
#1 Are you a recreational shooter, or is this strictly a go to defense gun?
#2 Have you had any type of formal training? If yes, from who?
How long ago, etc.
#3 do you have any physical limitations?
#4 I will not train anyone who has misdemeanor for domestic violence or any felonies, we do a live scan before acceptance to any training class. Is there any reason you feel that would be an issue?
These are pretty basic, but tells me the trainer, what I have to deal with in regards to skillset, attitude and background.
Then I go from there. There is a basic blueplan for those souls that plan on hitting the range twice a year or so. - kframe.38
Then there those that get that twinkle in the eye, and end up selling all their stuff to but that - H&K or 1911.
either way my only purpose in life when training these folks is keep them alive when fight or flight kicks in the back door at odarkthirty.
thats how it works for me.
I own and run a firearm training company.
Many x I have been asked this question.
I usually answer with a few questions of my own,
#1 Are you a recreational shooter, or is this strictly a go to defense gun?
#2 Have you had any type of formal training? If yes, from who?
How long ago, etc.
#3 do you have any physical limitations?
#4 I will not train anyone who has misdemeanor for domestic violence or any felonies, we do a live scan before acceptance to any training class. Is there any reason you feel that would be an issue?
These are pretty basic, but tells me the trainer, what I have to deal with in regards to skillset, attitude and background.
Then I go from there. There is a basic blueplan for those souls that plan on hitting the range twice a year or so. - kframe.38
Then there those that get that twinkle in the eye, and end up selling all their stuff to but that - H&K or 1911.
either way my only purpose in life when training these folks is keep them alive when fight or flight kicks in the back door at odarkthirty.
thats how it works for me.
Re: Looking for a good home defense handgun
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: kraigWY</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The one you can shoot best. </div></div>
^^This^^
Followed by practice with it allot.
And that bit about the biometric lock box, those things are slick and fast, even if you don't have kids you want it locked if its home and you aren't, getting greeted by your own gun when you walk in would be a bad day.
Many an intruder has been stopped with a 22LR, I wouldn't advocate it, the point is use what you have, use it well, and feed it quality expanding bullets, unless it has issues feeding them, you'll have to shoot it allot to be sure...
Also if you have a compact carry gun already, consider the fullsize version for a home gun, familiarity with the platform you take into a high stress situation cannot be stressed enough.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: kraigWY</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The one you can shoot best. </div></div>
^^This^^
Followed by practice with it allot.
And that bit about the biometric lock box, those things are slick and fast, even if you don't have kids you want it locked if its home and you aren't, getting greeted by your own gun when you walk in would be a bad day.
Many an intruder has been stopped with a 22LR, I wouldn't advocate it, the point is use what you have, use it well, and feed it quality expanding bullets, unless it has issues feeding them, you'll have to shoot it allot to be sure...
Also if you have a compact carry gun already, consider the fullsize version for a home gun, familiarity with the platform you take into a high stress situation cannot be stressed enough.
Re: Looking for a good home defense handgun
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Never buy a gun for home or personal defense, buy a gun because you enjoy shooting and want to make it part of your lifestyle and as a benifit let it protect your home and person as well... </div></div>
That does make a lot of sense. Good answer.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Never buy a gun for home or personal defense, buy a gun because you enjoy shooting and want to make it part of your lifestyle and as a benifit let it protect your home and person as well... </div></div>
That does make a lot of sense. Good answer.
Re: Looking for a good home defense handgun
While I love my P229 the gun for the home, if I can get to it, is the 870 12g with 00.
While I love my P229 the gun for the home, if I can get to it, is the 870 12g with 00.
Re: Looking for a good home defense handgun
I will give a little bit of background on me so everyone knows a lot about me and the reason I am posting this topic. I am a veteran of the United States Marine Corps where I served as an avionics technician and martial arts instructor. I have also shot mostly rifles from the m16 to the .50 cal. I am mostly a rifle man as I can hit the wings off of a fly at 200 yards, but this is basically something that I want to get for adaptability to all shooters in the house. I have had training in the Marine Corps as well as in other formal schools. I am good with handguns and I love the feel and power of the glock 19, but I have been leaning toward the taurus lately. I love all the input that you guys have given me. Me and my girlfriend shoot at least once a week at our local range and are looking for clubs to join as well. All the input is well appreciated.
I will give a little bit of background on me so everyone knows a lot about me and the reason I am posting this topic. I am a veteran of the United States Marine Corps where I served as an avionics technician and martial arts instructor. I have also shot mostly rifles from the m16 to the .50 cal. I am mostly a rifle man as I can hit the wings off of a fly at 200 yards, but this is basically something that I want to get for adaptability to all shooters in the house. I have had training in the Marine Corps as well as in other formal schools. I am good with handguns and I love the feel and power of the glock 19, but I have been leaning toward the taurus lately. I love all the input that you guys have given me. Me and my girlfriend shoot at least once a week at our local range and are looking for clubs to join as well. All the input is well appreciated.
Re: Looking for a good home defense handgun
before I had a child I thought the best home defense handgun was the most powerful one I could shoot accurately. After having a child I realize that over-penetration is a serious side-effect from a .357mag.
I now load my 357 with 38 specials and if time permits I would grab the 12 gauge loaded with bird shot. Even with the 38 special loads I wouldn't want to fire a shot in any direction that would possibly be in the same area as my son's room. I would rather take on an intruder via hand to hand combat than risk a stray bullet going into his room.
Do the research. Even a 9mm will go through walls. Drywall and insulation do little to stop any modern centerfire bullet.
before I had a child I thought the best home defense handgun was the most powerful one I could shoot accurately. After having a child I realize that over-penetration is a serious side-effect from a .357mag.
I now load my 357 with 38 specials and if time permits I would grab the 12 gauge loaded with bird shot. Even with the 38 special loads I wouldn't want to fire a shot in any direction that would possibly be in the same area as my son's room. I would rather take on an intruder via hand to hand combat than risk a stray bullet going into his room.
Do the research. Even a 9mm will go through walls. Drywall and insulation do little to stop any modern centerfire bullet.
Re: Looking for a good home defense handgun
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> The one you can shoot best. </div></div>
Agree completely ^ Dont buy into these caliber wars such as.. "if you dont shoot a .45 you cant call yourself a man". A hit with a 9mm or 38 special beats the heck out of 8 misses from a .45 1911 because you cant shoot it right. Get something that you and other people in the home that would use the gun are comfortable with then practice practice practice. Also as noted in the post above over penetration is a serious consideration. Get something designed for its intended purpose that will not over penetrate but have rapid expansion and massive energy deposit to stop the threat. Im not an expert by any means but thats my $.02...... To the OP just read another post you made. First let me say I sincerly thank you for your service to our country. Second knowing that you practice often is excellent, find a good defense load you like and your gun likes (If its your glock it should eat most anything) and go with it.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> The one you can shoot best. </div></div>
Agree completely ^ Dont buy into these caliber wars such as.. "if you dont shoot a .45 you cant call yourself a man". A hit with a 9mm or 38 special beats the heck out of 8 misses from a .45 1911 because you cant shoot it right. Get something that you and other people in the home that would use the gun are comfortable with then practice practice practice. Also as noted in the post above over penetration is a serious consideration. Get something designed for its intended purpose that will not over penetrate but have rapid expansion and massive energy deposit to stop the threat. Im not an expert by any means but thats my $.02...... To the OP just read another post you made. First let me say I sincerly thank you for your service to our country. Second knowing that you practice often is excellent, find a good defense load you like and your gun likes (If its your glock it should eat most anything) and go with it.
Re: Looking for a good home defense handgun
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MCMAI2005</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I love the 45. My girfriend prefers the 40 or 9mm </div></div>
40 is what I shoot in my Model 22. Full frame, cheaper ammo, does the job quite well, fits my hand like a glove, and is insanely reliable.
DK
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MCMAI2005</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I love the 45. My girfriend prefers the 40 or 9mm </div></div>
40 is what I shoot in my Model 22. Full frame, cheaper ammo, does the job quite well, fits my hand like a glove, and is insanely reliable.
DK
Re: Looking for a good home defense handgun
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MCMAI2005</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I will give a little bit of background on me so everyone knows a lot about me and the reason I am posting this topic. I am a veteran of the United States Marine Corps where I served as an avionics technician and martial arts instructor. I have also shot mostly rifles from the m16 to the .50 cal. I am mostly a rifle man as I can hit the wings off of a fly at 200 yards, but this is basically something that I want to get for adaptability to all shooters in the house. I have had training in the Marine Corps as well as in other formal schools. I am good with handguns and I love the feel and power of the glock 19, but I have been leaning toward the taurus lately. I love all the input that you guys have given me. Me and my girlfriend shoot at least once a week at our local range and are looking for clubs to join as well. All the input is well appreciated. </div></div>
In that case, go with a Glock 19... That is seriously my favorite Glock. I've owned the 21, 17, 22, 36 and the 19.... that is one of the best guns for the money hands down. 9mm is super affordable and very comfortable to shoot. Don't buy taurus, they are awful.
Guns in that price range I would consider,
Glock 19
S&W-M&P
Springfield XD
Ruger 1911 (if you can find one, I doubt it)
Ruger GP100- I know it's a revolver and not as neat but you will get way better at trigger control by shooting that double action
Ruger SR series (my experience is very limited with this but I did really like it)
Guns in the next price range up
HK USP (Honestly I like Glocks better)
Sig Sauer- P220, P225, P228, P229 (All fantastic)
Springfield 1911s (they are all nice, be advised though the range master, or Mil-spec will not feed hollow points)
Guns I would avoid
Hi-Point
older smith and wesson semi-autos (obviously besides the M&P)
Lama
Taurus
Rossi (AVOID AT ALL COST)
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MCMAI2005</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I will give a little bit of background on me so everyone knows a lot about me and the reason I am posting this topic. I am a veteran of the United States Marine Corps where I served as an avionics technician and martial arts instructor. I have also shot mostly rifles from the m16 to the .50 cal. I am mostly a rifle man as I can hit the wings off of a fly at 200 yards, but this is basically something that I want to get for adaptability to all shooters in the house. I have had training in the Marine Corps as well as in other formal schools. I am good with handguns and I love the feel and power of the glock 19, but I have been leaning toward the taurus lately. I love all the input that you guys have given me. Me and my girlfriend shoot at least once a week at our local range and are looking for clubs to join as well. All the input is well appreciated. </div></div>
In that case, go with a Glock 19... That is seriously my favorite Glock. I've owned the 21, 17, 22, 36 and the 19.... that is one of the best guns for the money hands down. 9mm is super affordable and very comfortable to shoot. Don't buy taurus, they are awful.
Guns in that price range I would consider,
Glock 19
S&W-M&P
Springfield XD
Ruger 1911 (if you can find one, I doubt it)
Ruger GP100- I know it's a revolver and not as neat but you will get way better at trigger control by shooting that double action
Ruger SR series (my experience is very limited with this but I did really like it)
Guns in the next price range up
HK USP (Honestly I like Glocks better)
Sig Sauer- P220, P225, P228, P229 (All fantastic)
Springfield 1911s (they are all nice, be advised though the range master, or Mil-spec will not feed hollow points)
Guns I would avoid
Hi-Point
older smith and wesson semi-autos (obviously besides the M&P)
Lama
Taurus
Rossi (AVOID AT ALL COST)
Re: Looking for a good home defense handgun
MCM,
I work p/t at a gun store that also rents for range use(inhouse) I have seen more Taurus firearms get sent in for warranty than any other. Now, Taurus has a lifetime warranty which is essentially unquestioned, but it's there for a reason - you'll NEED IT!!!
If you said it was just a plinking gun, no worries, you give up your recreational shooting for a month or two, and resume when firearm is returned. If it goes "crack" instead of "bang" when needed, NOT cool!!!
Get a firearm(with compromise since two users) that fits, both of you can function, and both of you can "fix" and what I mean by that is malfunction clears, reloads, etc.
Brands in no particular order that I would steer your towards: Beretta, Glock, Smith & Wesson, HK, Sig Sauer, Springfield Armory, CZ. Get one that fits your needs and caliber desires and go practice like there's no tomorrow.
Just my $.02. Keep us posted!
-G45
MCM,
I work p/t at a gun store that also rents for range use(inhouse) I have seen more Taurus firearms get sent in for warranty than any other. Now, Taurus has a lifetime warranty which is essentially unquestioned, but it's there for a reason - you'll NEED IT!!!
If you said it was just a plinking gun, no worries, you give up your recreational shooting for a month or two, and resume when firearm is returned. If it goes "crack" instead of "bang" when needed, NOT cool!!!
Get a firearm(with compromise since two users) that fits, both of you can function, and both of you can "fix" and what I mean by that is malfunction clears, reloads, etc.
Brands in no particular order that I would steer your towards: Beretta, Glock, Smith & Wesson, HK, Sig Sauer, Springfield Armory, CZ. Get one that fits your needs and caliber desires and go practice like there's no tomorrow.
Just my $.02. Keep us posted!
-G45
Re: Looking for a good home defense handgun
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Sgt. 0811</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Guns I would avoid
Hi-Point
older smith and wesson semi-autos (obviously besides the M&P)
Lama
Taurus
Rossi (AVOID AT ALL COST)
</div></div>
Hey Sarge,
I'm <span style="font-weight: bold">NOT</span> debating or arguing with you, and no my feelings are not hurt. I'm just curious why you mention avoiding the older S&W autos at all costs? I've had good luck with S&W 39, 459, 4506, 659 in the past. I think they have a great trigger reset. The DA trigger isn't stellar, but not like it has you miss the target.
I would agree in the sense that some of the alloy framed models could crack if heavy loads were consistently fired.
Just curious is all.
Regards!
-G45
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Sgt. 0811</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Guns I would avoid
Hi-Point
older smith and wesson semi-autos (obviously besides the M&P)
Lama
Taurus
Rossi (AVOID AT ALL COST)
</div></div>
Hey Sarge,
I'm <span style="font-weight: bold">NOT</span> debating or arguing with you, and no my feelings are not hurt. I'm just curious why you mention avoiding the older S&W autos at all costs? I've had good luck with S&W 39, 459, 4506, 659 in the past. I think they have a great trigger reset. The DA trigger isn't stellar, but not like it has you miss the target.
I would agree in the sense that some of the alloy framed models could crack if heavy loads were consistently fired.
Just curious is all.
Regards!
-G45
Re: Looking for a good home defense handgun
I would recommend a good double action revolver such as a S&W 686. The revolver is simple, reliable, and you don't have to worry about screwing with safeties and such in the middle of the night. You just pick it up and pull the trigger.
I would recommend a good double action revolver such as a S&W 686. The revolver is simple, reliable, and you don't have to worry about screwing with safeties and such in the middle of the night. You just pick it up and pull the trigger.
Re: Looking for a good home defense handgun
Thanks to all who have commented and gave their own personal likes and dislikes. Much greatly appreciated. Is anyone in the Virginia, DC, Maryland area that goes shooting or a part of a shooting club?
Thanks to all who have commented and gave their own personal likes and dislikes. Much greatly appreciated. Is anyone in the Virginia, DC, Maryland area that goes shooting or a part of a shooting club?
Re: Looking for a good home defense handgun
I like the Glock 19. But, the CZ line is good. Revolvers are great for people that may have to use the gun that aren't into guns.
I like the Glock 19. But, the CZ line is good. Revolvers are great for people that may have to use the gun that aren't into guns.
Re: Looking for a good home defense handgun
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: AR-180</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Revolvers are great for people that may have to use the gun that aren't into guns. </div></div>
What??
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: AR-180</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Revolvers are great for people that may have to use the gun that aren't into guns. </div></div>
What??
Re: Looking for a good home defense handgun
Glock45, not bagging on smiths but ive had problems with three different guns a 5903, 5906, and a sigma. Nothing bad just inconsistant accuracy, not even bad accuracy just for whatever reason I couldnt get them to group the way i wanted. The 5903 had me convinced i could only shoot revolvers and sigs well. Because revolvers and sigs were the only compairisons i had access to at the the time. I eventually tested the 5903 and 5906 on a ransom rest and realized it really wasnt me. The sigma just gave me too many malfunctions. Scared me away from anything until the M&Ps.
Glock45, not bagging on smiths but ive had problems with three different guns a 5903, 5906, and a sigma. Nothing bad just inconsistant accuracy, not even bad accuracy just for whatever reason I couldnt get them to group the way i wanted. The 5903 had me convinced i could only shoot revolvers and sigs well. Because revolvers and sigs were the only compairisons i had access to at the the time. I eventually tested the 5903 and 5906 on a ransom rest and realized it really wasnt me. The sigma just gave me too many malfunctions. Scared me away from anything until the M&Ps.
Re: Looking for a good home defense handgun
I didnt mean to rope them into the crap catagory.. I. Re-read my post and it looks like that. My mistake i should have explained better. There are very good smiths out there just gotta know hownto spot them.
I didnt mean to rope them into the crap catagory.. I. Re-read my post and it looks like that. My mistake i should have explained better. There are very good smiths out there just gotta know hownto spot them.
Re: Looking for a good home defense handgun
I just went and played with the glock 31 gen 4 and I like the feel. I got the full size cause the short barrel didnt feel well in the hands and had my pinky finger without a grip. Not a biggie I could get an extender, but that full size had me going. My girlfriend is getting her the smith and wesson sd. Cant remember the model number but it comes in a home defense kit and it is a 9mm.
I just went and played with the glock 31 gen 4 and I like the feel. I got the full size cause the short barrel didnt feel well in the hands and had my pinky finger without a grip. Not a biggie I could get an extender, but that full size had me going. My girlfriend is getting her the smith and wesson sd. Cant remember the model number but it comes in a home defense kit and it is a 9mm.
Re: Looking for a good home defense handgun
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: kraigWY</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The one you can shoot best. </div></div>
^^what he said, also have a pump shotgun next to that. I like the p220 with night sights and a 590a1 with #4 buckshot....
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: kraigWY</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The one you can shoot best. </div></div>
^^what he said, also have a pump shotgun next to that. I like the p220 with night sights and a 590a1 with #4 buckshot....
Re: Looking for a good home defense handgun
Good to keep 2-3 snubby .38s in various areas around house.
For instance I keep one in master shitter, kitchen and tv room.
Can keep loaded for years, pick it up and squeeze trigger, hear 5 load bangs.
simple, fumble proof and always there when you need it.
My main house pistol is a 220 which i change out loaded mags monthly.
hell, i even keep a stainless .22 mag mini revolver in the soap dish in shower.
but then again, i am how you say;
Good to keep 2-3 snubby .38s in various areas around house.
For instance I keep one in master shitter, kitchen and tv room.
Can keep loaded for years, pick it up and squeeze trigger, hear 5 load bangs.
simple, fumble proof and always there when you need it.
My main house pistol is a 220 which i change out loaded mags monthly.
hell, i even keep a stainless .22 mag mini revolver in the soap dish in shower.
but then again, i am how you say;
Re: Looking for a good home defense handgun
I actually have several for home defense.
First the Remington 870 pump, loaded with 00 buck.
second is the S&W 642 REVOLVER - no jams there...
And third, my handy lil Ruger LCP because I carry it often it is accessable in a different room...
and lastly, since I train in Martial Arts, there is a wooden bokka in my living room where I train with it occasionally.
I actually have several for home defense.
First the Remington 870 pump, loaded with 00 buck.
second is the S&W 642 REVOLVER - no jams there...
And third, my handy lil Ruger LCP because I carry it often it is accessable in a different room...
and lastly, since I train in Martial Arts, there is a wooden bokka in my living room where I train with it occasionally.
Re: Looking for a good home defense handgun
a remington 870 express would be a better choice then any handgun , juss sayin
a remington 870 express would be a better choice then any handgun , juss sayin
Re: Looking for a good home defense handgun
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Sgt. 0811</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Glock45, not bagging on smiths but ive had problems with three different guns a 5903, 5906, and a sigma. Nothing bad just inconsistant accuracy, not even bad accuracy just for whatever reason I couldnt get them to group the way i wanted. The 5903 had me convinced i could only shoot revolvers and sigs well. Because revolvers and sigs were the only compairisons i had access to at the the time. I eventually tested the 5903 and 5906 on a ransom rest and realized it really wasnt me. The sigma just gave me too many malfunctions. Scared me away from anything until the M&Ps. </div></div>
Sarge, no worries at all. I always try to craft my questions carefully on these forums. You appear to have your own very reasonable reasons to not care for S&W's. I certainly have gun brands I don't care for too. Is it because those brands are bad brands? NOPE! They just don't fit me and how I shoot is all.
What is awesome however is we have a WONDERFUL array of firearms from which to choose!!
Shoot safely!
-G45
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Sgt. 0811</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Glock45, not bagging on smiths but ive had problems with three different guns a 5903, 5906, and a sigma. Nothing bad just inconsistant accuracy, not even bad accuracy just for whatever reason I couldnt get them to group the way i wanted. The 5903 had me convinced i could only shoot revolvers and sigs well. Because revolvers and sigs were the only compairisons i had access to at the the time. I eventually tested the 5903 and 5906 on a ransom rest and realized it really wasnt me. The sigma just gave me too many malfunctions. Scared me away from anything until the M&Ps. </div></div>
Sarge, no worries at all. I always try to craft my questions carefully on these forums. You appear to have your own very reasonable reasons to not care for S&W's. I certainly have gun brands I don't care for too. Is it because those brands are bad brands? NOPE! They just don't fit me and how I shoot is all.
What is awesome however is we have a WONDERFUL array of firearms from which to choose!!
Shoot safely!
-G45
Re: Looking for a good home defense handgun
There are positives and negatives to having a handgun for home defense. While it's better than having a 300 win mag (my first home defense weapon- simply because it's what I had). Handguns can also be a liability in an apartment situation, If you shoot the "bad guy" and the wound is through and through or if you miss. There is the possibility of hurting/killing innocent people. Remember, you are accountable for every round that leaves the muzzle of that weapon. The positive side of a pistol is it is easy to maneuver in tight quarters compared to a shotgun or AR. The positive side of the shotgun is when properly choked down even 7 1/5 bird shot can be pretty damn devastating 7 feet away but energy gets dissipated quickly in things like drywall and building materials.
With proper training and dedication any weapon system with proper ammo can be effective if you can put rounds on target. That being said, I would suggest something like a glock 22. Simple, reliable and a great price point for what you get. Even if you live at home alone like myself a safe is a great investment and a small safe with finger keys can be easily opened in darkness. Whatever you do, if you own one. Get to the range and practice shooting. Get out and shoot a USPSA / IDPA match and get a feel for how things work in a more dynamic situation than just shooting bullseyes all day.
There are positives and negatives to having a handgun for home defense. While it's better than having a 300 win mag (my first home defense weapon- simply because it's what I had). Handguns can also be a liability in an apartment situation, If you shoot the "bad guy" and the wound is through and through or if you miss. There is the possibility of hurting/killing innocent people. Remember, you are accountable for every round that leaves the muzzle of that weapon. The positive side of a pistol is it is easy to maneuver in tight quarters compared to a shotgun or AR. The positive side of the shotgun is when properly choked down even 7 1/5 bird shot can be pretty damn devastating 7 feet away but energy gets dissipated quickly in things like drywall and building materials.
With proper training and dedication any weapon system with proper ammo can be effective if you can put rounds on target. That being said, I would suggest something like a glock 22. Simple, reliable and a great price point for what you get. Even if you live at home alone like myself a safe is a great investment and a small safe with finger keys can be easily opened in darkness. Whatever you do, if you own one. Get to the range and practice shooting. Get out and shoot a USPSA / IDPA match and get a feel for how things work in a more dynamic situation than just shooting bullseyes all day.
Re: Looking for a good home defense handgun
Lots of good information here. Whatever gun you choose, make sure you take the time to completely familiarize yourself with it and take it to the range as frequently as possible. The ammunition you use for home defense is as important as the gun. My gun of choice is a Nighthawk T-3 and Hornady Z-Max 185 gr. bullets.
Lots of good information here. Whatever gun you choose, make sure you take the time to completely familiarize yourself with it and take it to the range as frequently as possible. The ammunition you use for home defense is as important as the gun. My gun of choice is a Nighthawk T-3 and Hornady Z-Max 185 gr. bullets.
Re: Looking for a good home defense handgun
+1 for those who say whatever you can shoot well. I started out with a 9mm Sig Pro, and thought I was getting pretty comfortable with the gun. Eventually I got a .38 snubby as a carry gun, and ended up practicing with it so much that my skill with it greatly outweighs my skill with the semiauto. Now the .38 is my go-to gun for both carry and HD.
+1 for those who say whatever you can shoot well. I started out with a 9mm Sig Pro, and thought I was getting pretty comfortable with the gun. Eventually I got a .38 snubby as a carry gun, and ended up practicing with it so much that my skill with it greatly outweighs my skill with the semiauto. Now the .38 is my go-to gun for both carry and HD.
Re: Looking for a good home defense handgun
I carry my HK USP Compact .357sig on me everywhere I go and to bed every night.
I have Trijicons on it and it's my go-to weapon of choice!
I believe I have Hornady Critical Defense in it now.
I carry my HK USP Compact .357sig on me everywhere I go and to bed every night.
I have Trijicons on it and it's my go-to weapon of choice!
I believe I have Hornady Critical Defense in it now.
Re: Looking for a good home defense handgun
I like my Sig 229 Elite Dark (different grips than other 229s + night sights).
I would suggest a gun with either an external safety or a DA/SA trigger due to the fact that your fingers could accidentally grab the trigger when trying to fish it out of your night stand or from underneath your bed in the dark.
Other than that - whatever you shoot the best. Ask around your range and people may let you try their guns if you ask - I know people at my range usually do. That is how I landed with Sig - because I did not shoot my Beretta 92fs very well at all (worst DA/SA trigger system but never had a malfunction in the 2k rounds I shot before I sold it).
I like my Sig 229 Elite Dark (different grips than other 229s + night sights).
I would suggest a gun with either an external safety or a DA/SA trigger due to the fact that your fingers could accidentally grab the trigger when trying to fish it out of your night stand or from underneath your bed in the dark.
Other than that - whatever you shoot the best. Ask around your range and people may let you try their guns if you ask - I know people at my range usually do. That is how I landed with Sig - because I did not shoot my Beretta 92fs very well at all (worst DA/SA trigger system but never had a malfunction in the 2k rounds I shot before I sold it).
Re: Looking for a good home defense handgun
The ideal HD handgun in my mind :
Full size frame, size isnt an issue, you arent carrying it.
High capacity
If you like larger calibers, get it, size of the gun does not matter.
Light mounting options.
For me it has been a USP9F with light and 18 round mag. With a safety and decocked it is a very safe weapon to leave on the nightstand.
It may be retired soon, I have been going Glock lately and have a G30SF. I am not sure if it will be kept out condition 1, condition 3, or holstered condition 1.
The ideal HD handgun in my mind :
Full size frame, size isnt an issue, you arent carrying it.
High capacity
If you like larger calibers, get it, size of the gun does not matter.
Light mounting options.
For me it has been a USP9F with light and 18 round mag. With a safety and decocked it is a very safe weapon to leave on the nightstand.
It may be retired soon, I have been going Glock lately and have a G30SF. I am not sure if it will be kept out condition 1, condition 3, or holstered condition 1.
Re: Looking for a good home defense handgun
Springfield Armory XD(m) .45. Just got mine and it shoots like a dream.
Springfield Armory XD(m) .45. Just got mine and it shoots like a dream.
Re: Looking for a good home defense handgun
This is my ideal HD handgun. This is it in the HD configuration. It's also my EDC, so it just has a regular 15rnd mag in it and no TLR-1 when it leaves the house.
This is my ideal HD handgun. This is it in the HD configuration. It's also my EDC, so it just has a regular 15rnd mag in it and no TLR-1 when it leaves the house.
Re: Looking for a good home defense handgun
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SGT Ticklefight</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I like my Sig 229 Elite Dark (different grips than other 229s + night sights).
I would suggest a gun with either an external safety or a DA/SA trigger due to the fact that your fingers could accidentally grab the trigger when trying to fish it out of your night stand or from underneath your bed in the dark.
Other than that - whatever you shoot the best. Ask around your range and people may let you try their guns if you ask - I know people at my range usually do. That is how I landed with Sig - because I did not shoot my Beretta 92fs very well at all (worst DA/SA trigger system but never had a malfunction in the 2k rounds I shot before I sold it). </div></div>
To add to this I did a rough round count and I believe the gun has somewhere in the ballpark of 3000 rounds of all types through it without 1 malfunction. The beaver tail grips on my model do let my thumbs touch the mag release and sometimes the slide doesn't lock on the last round. This is operator error and not a malfunction.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SGT Ticklefight</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I like my Sig 229 Elite Dark (different grips than other 229s + night sights).
I would suggest a gun with either an external safety or a DA/SA trigger due to the fact that your fingers could accidentally grab the trigger when trying to fish it out of your night stand or from underneath your bed in the dark.
Other than that - whatever you shoot the best. Ask around your range and people may let you try their guns if you ask - I know people at my range usually do. That is how I landed with Sig - because I did not shoot my Beretta 92fs very well at all (worst DA/SA trigger system but never had a malfunction in the 2k rounds I shot before I sold it). </div></div>
To add to this I did a rough round count and I believe the gun has somewhere in the ballpark of 3000 rounds of all types through it without 1 malfunction. The beaver tail grips on my model do let my thumbs touch the mag release and sometimes the slide doesn't lock on the last round. This is operator error and not a malfunction.
Re: Looking for a good home defense handgun
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MCMAI2005</div><div class="ubbcode-body">anyone know of what handgun is the best in their own opinion for home defense? </div></div>
The one that goes bang every time!
But seriously, I'm not going to elevate one brand over another. <span style="text-decoration: underline">You really should go to a range and rent or shoot as many different models as you can</span>. The best pistol for you is the one that fits your hands & eyes.
Things to consider:
Safety:
Frame safety(1911), Slide safety(Beretta), Mag Safety(S&W, some Europeans), or No safety(Glock, Sig, Revolver)
Trigger:
Double Action only(DAK, LEM, Glock=same medium length trigger pull every time), Single Action Only(1911=same light trigger pull every time), DA/SA(long 1st pull, light pull until mag is empty)
Action:
Revolver
Semi-Auto
Caliber:
Big & Slow(.44 Spl, .45 ACP-my personal choice), Small & Fast(9mm, .38 Super), or in-between (.40 S&W)
Capacity:
Single Stack, Double Stack, 5 or 6 rounds in a wheel
Sights:
Night sights, laser, holographic red dot
Whatever your choice, practice practice practice. Use snap caps in your garage and try several different excersizes to hone your skills. Simply owning a gun does not make one armed......
Whichever brand you choose, put at least 500 rounds through it and see what ammo/mags she likes, and if there are inherint problems, they will usually surface here.
H&K, S&W, Sig, Beretta, Glock, 1911, Springfield; they will all serve you well, and all companies have lemons.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MCMAI2005</div><div class="ubbcode-body">anyone know of what handgun is the best in their own opinion for home defense? </div></div>
The one that goes bang every time!
But seriously, I'm not going to elevate one brand over another. <span style="text-decoration: underline">You really should go to a range and rent or shoot as many different models as you can</span>. The best pistol for you is the one that fits your hands & eyes.
Things to consider:
Safety:
Frame safety(1911), Slide safety(Beretta), Mag Safety(S&W, some Europeans), or No safety(Glock, Sig, Revolver)
Trigger:
Double Action only(DAK, LEM, Glock=same medium length trigger pull every time), Single Action Only(1911=same light trigger pull every time), DA/SA(long 1st pull, light pull until mag is empty)
Action:
Revolver
Semi-Auto
Caliber:
Big & Slow(.44 Spl, .45 ACP-my personal choice), Small & Fast(9mm, .38 Super), or in-between (.40 S&W)
Capacity:
Single Stack, Double Stack, 5 or 6 rounds in a wheel
Sights:
Night sights, laser, holographic red dot
Whatever your choice, practice practice practice. Use snap caps in your garage and try several different excersizes to hone your skills. Simply owning a gun does not make one armed......
Whichever brand you choose, put at least 500 rounds through it and see what ammo/mags she likes, and if there are inherint problems, they will usually surface here.
H&K, S&W, Sig, Beretta, Glock, 1911, Springfield; they will all serve you well, and all companies have lemons.
Re: Looking for a good home defense handgun
kimber desert warrior with streamlight tlr 2 laser/light combo and cobra mags 20 round mag. a helluva unit.
kimber desert warrior with streamlight tlr 2 laser/light combo and cobra mags 20 round mag. a helluva unit.
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