Rifle Scopes Looking for guidance on AR10 platform glass

Ratz

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I've got a LRP-07 in 6.5 Creedmore inbound and am looking for some good mid-priced glass for her (up to around $2000). I'd like to reach to 1200 yards or so. With my eyes, I'd like something that goes up to at least 15X. I'll be putting my PVS30 in front of the optic for some nighttime fun as well. I think the rail in front of the LRP is long enough that I shouldn't have to worry about getting a 'short' scope to fit the PVS30. Any thoughts would be appreciated.
 
I’m running a NF F1 ATACR 4-16X on my LMT MWS.
I am quite happy with it.
Great glass, tracks perfectly and the size and magnification are about ideal for an AR-10 platform.
 
I run the Bushnell DMR II (the illuminated version) on my Seekins and absolutely love it. I think it's one of the best at the price point. Set up in Spuhr QD mount.

Everyone who has seen it has been very impressed by it. details - http://bushnell.com/eyetoeye/dmr2

I'll do a writeup after the long range class this sunday where I'm running the Seekins, to compare/contrast to my last aar on the MRAD.

 
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4-16 NF F1, Ultra short S&b, 3-24 FFP March , 3-15 Tanget Theta in FS section for $2150 IMO be great one.

If you can get a TT315 for $2150 in the FS section I would say get it and never look back! I had two Premier 315 LT's that I absolutely loved, best glass in that mag range I've seen, and TT supposedly improved it a bit and threw in their amazing turrets. A buddy of mine had the Nightforce ATACR F1 4-16 and then got the TT 315M and ended up keeping the TT as he felt it was that much better... not knocking Nightforce, they make reliable bulletproof scopes, but once you look through the glass of the upper echelon of scopes it's difficult to go back.

Now, to the OP's original question. There are so many options, you have one of the best and most accurate gas guns and now you want some glass for it. You mention going out to 1200 yards and while 15x should do it, I have found that the older I get the more I prefer that higher magnification range as long as the resolution of the scope is up to the task. For this reason I would recommend looking at something with a little more top end magnification. In my opinion, for a long range gas gun there is no better scope than the S&B Bender Ultra Short 5-20; however, it's price is typically double your budget so scratch that. If you don't mind mounting a cinder block to your LRP then take a look at the Vortex Razor Gen II 4.5-27x56, they are highly regarded around here and you should be able to find one in the FS section within your budget. I just sold my custom lightweight AR-6.5 Creedmoor and the last scope I had mounted on it was the Bushnell LRTS 4.5-18x44 and I have to admit that I really loved that scope. It is lightweight and falls well under your budget, Bushnell also has the best warranty in the business right now. To me, the glass was right up there with other $2000 optics it was that impressive. I also really liked the DMR IIi as a shorter scope, glass wasn't quite as good as the LRTS but good enough and they look great on gas guns, but some think they are overpriced so look for a used one under $1300. Here's a pic to give you an idea... in fact, here's several pics of different scopes I've had on the rig over the years:

Schmidt & Bender Ultra Short 5-20x50 on top and Burris XTRII 4-20x50 (not recommended) on bottom
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Thanks WJM ! I appreciate the detail and effort that went into that. I came across a Vortex AMG 6-24x50 that I bought last night (and at a great price - $1975).

Though I really liked the TT in the for sale section someone beat me to it. I was thinking that 15X would have been tough on these old eyes at 1200 yards. I wanted a shorter scope (the AMG is 15+ inches) but the LRP has plenty of room still for the PVS30. I also like the fact that it has 27+ mil of elevation so even with a zero cant base I am hoping I’m able to get to 1200 without running out of elevation with 147 ELD’s. If not, I’ll put a 20 moa mount on her. I also like it because it’s only 28 ounces!

Thanks for everyone who chimed in on this!
 
Thanks WJM ! I appreciate the detail and effort that went into that. I came across a Vortex AMG 6-24x50 that I bought last night (and at a great price - $1975).

Though I really liked the TT in the for sale section someone beat me to it. I was thinking that 15X would have been tough on these old eyes at 1200 yards. I wanted a shorter scope (the AMG is 15+ inches) but the LRP has plenty of room still for the PVS30. I also like the fact that it has 27+ mil of elevation so even with a zero cant base I am hoping I’m able to get to 1200 without running out of elevation with 147 ELD’s. If not, I’ll put a 20 moa mount on her. I also like it because it’s only 28 ounces!

Thanks for everyone who chimed in on this!

Yep, AMG is what is on my GAP10. Love it! I have changed it to a MIL version in a Geissele 20moa mount since this picture. It is zero'd at 100yds and has 18.8 mils of mechanical up-elevation, so about 5 mils more than needed for my 260 with 140s.
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Thanks WJM ! I appreciate the detail and effort that went into that. I came across a Vortex AMG 6-24x50 that I bought last night (and at a great price - $1975).

Though I really liked the TT in the for sale section someone beat me to it. I was thinking that 15X would have been tough on these old eyes at 1200 yards. I wanted a shorter scope (the AMG is 15+ inches) but the LRP has plenty of room still for the PVS30. I also like the fact that it has 27+ mil of elevation so even with a zero cant base I am hoping I’m able to get to 1200 without running out of elevation with 147 ELD’s. If not, I’ll put a 20 moa mount on her. I also like it because it’s only 28 ounces!

Thanks for everyone who chimed in on this!

Ratz, I also have an AMG but it sits atop a bolt gun. I think you'll be very happy with the AMG, it is a solid scope. You will not miss the low end loss as much as you will benefit from the top end, meaning the AMG 6-24 vs. a 4-16 or similar. The AMG has over 20' FOV at 6x @ 100yds which is more than enough for most situations. Glass and resolution is great at its price point, turrets are solid, illumination is really good, zero is a bit different but easy to set once you figure it out...