Looking for input from an electronics technician.

[Maggot]

Just saw this, could it work? I know that in high end audio you can hear flucuations in the power grid. Arond 11:00 pm the quallity of the sound goes up when people start turning on ac units, lights, heating, or what have you. Less industrial use drag on the current as well.

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[unrepentant]

The short answer: no
long version: it's a scam

 

[1J04]

 

[Maggot]

The short answer: no
long version: it's a scam

I figured as much, too bad, it really does make a difference in audio.

 

[Tiger_Shilone]

This is just like the magnet on your fuel line “Econimizer” bs that would straighten and align your liquid fuel flow for better economy back in the 1990’s.

If anything this thing looks like a potential hazard as the pictures of the plug only show 2 prongs (line, neutral) without the third safety ground going into the outlet.


if your stereo system sounds different at night then during the day you may indeed benefit from a line filtering conditioner that will provide a cleaner sine wave. There is no free lunch there as the conditioner is not 100% efficient and consumes power as well. This doesn’t make too much sense either as high end stereo sound systems should all ready have their own power filters installed internally with a quality power supply

 

[HeavyAssault]

You would be amazed at the amount of electro-pollution that is out there around you. I run a CB radio in my truck, those flashing road traffic signs are horrible. Not to mention the roof top amber strobes on the pick-up trucks.

 

[E. Bryant]

I'm not a tech, just a lowly engineer. It would appear that this particular device is yet another version of the classic power factor correction device, which is basically a capacitor placed across the mains (or between main and ground) that offsets the effect of inductive loads (motors, ballasts, etc.).

Improving power factor is a good thing, at least from the perspective of your utility. But the only way it helps your power bill is if: 1) your smart meter can measure power factor; 2) your utility penalizes you for poor power factor; and 3) you have loads in your house that are affecting the power factor to the point that your utility objects.

I'm not going to spend time probing all three, but it's unlikely this is the case for residential consumers. If it was really a problem, then utilities would already require residential consumers to fix the issue, just as they do for industrial consumers.

In short, stay away. But spend some money on a whole-house surge suppressor. Those things are worthwhile.

 

[Maggot]

This is just like the magnet on your fuel line “Econimizer” bs that would straighten and align your liquid fuel flow for better economy back in the 1990’s.

If anything this thing looks like a potential hazard as the pictures of the plug only show 2 prongs (line, neutral) without the third safety ground going into the outlet.


if your stereo system sounds different at night then during the day you may indeed benefit from a line filtering conditioner that will provide a cleaner sine wave. There is no free lunch there as the conditioner is not 100% efficient and consumes power as well. This doesn’t make too much sense either as high end stereo sound systems should all ready have their own power filters installed internally with a quality power supply

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Ive treied those. All but the most expensive ones impart a haze. Power amps are best plugged direct to the wall.

 

[Sean the Nailer]

A number of years ago, when I had a 'good' sound system, one of the electricians I worked with said that I might want to look at having an "isolation transformer" installed in my house.

I forget all the details now, and don't profess to knowing what I'm talking about right now, but I do remember that item. YMMV.

 

[Threadcutter308]

Most of it is bullshit, looks like this one is as well.

As far as sound quality, feed the DC Buss of your Amps and Pre-Amps from Large batteries and disconnect entirely from the grid. Don't have the charger connected to the batteries while the gear is powered up or running. Zero power line distortion/garbage and nothing but 100% clean DC power to your amp. Yes, I know that many batteries are "expensive". Just nowhere close to as expensive as that 6 foot long, $2,500.00 snake oil AC power cord made out of rare Mars and Saturn unobtanium elements.

My hearing is shot from 25 years in Pro Sound, so I just run a pair of small self powered Genelec monitors and source music from my Macbook. Because I can't hear anymore, audiophile stuff beyond that is a total waste of money for me.

 

[DocRDS]

In this forum we obey the laws of physics!!

Your power consumption cannot be lowered by some device you just plug in. Energy out has to Equal Energy In. Power is just Energy per second.

You cannot make electrical devices more efficient but something OUTSIDE their motors.

Nope. Not going to happen.

As Master E. Bryant mentioned, it may help some with indutive changes (and that only happens with things kick on and off), but if that is 50% of your bill...welll you got a bigger problem.


EDIT:
Yes you can hear fluctuations in high end audio--that means your receiver is picking up signals, but it still consumes the same power. The 'signal' being amplified is just corrupted by extra inputs.

 

[HMRamateur]

The best way to save money on electricity is a 12" hole cored into your foundation right behind your meter, a very careful cut into the conduit, gently strip the wires and tap off the wire before it enters your meter. Assuming you have an underground service of course

 

[Threadcutter308]

The best way to save money on electricity is a 12" hole cored into your foundation right behind your meter, a very careful cut into the conduit, gently strip the wires and tap off the wire before it enters your meter. Assuming you have an underground service of course

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