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Looking to purchase my first and last suppressor
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My Tikka with its Thunder Beast cb brake.
My ar's cb flash hider.
Not all brakes or flash hiders are suppressor hostable. All (as far as I know) suppressor hostable devices are flash hiders or brakes.
You have to match the device and the can. You put a device on that matches the ecosystem of the can. For mine I chose Thunderbeasts CB system. Others choose HUB, others choose other systems. Can't really interchange between systems with very few exceptions.
Yes, the muzzle device is threaded to attach to the barrel, and threaded to attach to the suppressor. You buy the muzzle device that interfaces with your suppressor mount. The muzzle brakes that you posted are not designed to work with a suppressor.
Thank You ,as I was wondering how in the hell I would attach one with my current brake on the .338LM simple answer ,NOT gonna happen .
Huxwrk 762 Ventum appears to be a flow through ,as well as adaptable for both .762 & .223 and also disassembly for cleaning .
A logical choice for MY 7.62 & .223 platforms .
I have another point of curiosity concerning Cans ,relating to design for Gases out the barrel ,rather than out the brake relief ports .
One system is designed for gas to push through Can aka Suppressor ,as opposed to venting sideways inside the suppressor .
Hope that makes sense ?. Any difference to db or gas system on your rifle ,for those of you who use an internal dispersing mount as opposed to direct barrel threading ?.
One system is designed for gas to push through Can aka Suppressor ,as opposed to venting sideways inside the suppressor .
Hope that makes sense ?. Any difference to db or gas system on your rifle ,for those of you who use an internal dispersing mount as opposed to direct barrel threading ?.
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Yes the Ventum Supports a HUB structure. I am moving my ARs to Cobalt precision brake that supports the Silencer Co ASR hub mount.
Search here for Thunderbeast Silencer Summit results for the thread here on it. There was a 2023 one as well. Multiple companies multiple types compared on the same system.
Cool older videos. 7 and 5 years old. Still cool looking
I wanted the same thing and I went with the Area419 system and really like it.
I also just got one can, to cover all my bases. A .30 Rex MG7K. Then I got 10 more.
I own ten or more suppressors. We rent suppressors with some of our guns at the range.
1) If I could go back and start over, I would probably have 30 cal cans exclusively.
2) I would research how to attach the can to the rifle, lots of proprietary designs.
3) I prefer Inconel suppressors, they heat up slower, can sustain higher rates of fire, just more sturdy.
4) A lot of people get wrapped up in how quiet they are, the answer is when you are behind the gun it is hard to tell the difference between a few decibels. A supersonic bullet is going to make a crack when you shoot it no matter what.
5) If you are planning on using the suppressor on gas guns, I highly recommend a flow thru design.
If you don't need the Ventum's HUB compatibility, and don't mind HUXWRX's muzzle device options, the Flow Ti 762 works well on both of those calibers.Thank You ,as I was wondering how in the hell I would attach one with my current brake on the .338LM simple answer ,NOT gonna happen .
Huxwrk 762 Ventum appears to be a flow through ,as well as adaptable for both .762 & .223 and also disassembly for cleaning .
A logical choice for MY 7.62 & .223 platforms .
I have both but haven't done any side by side comparisons, except on an AR with subsonic 300blk, and that was its own niche range outing.
As for cleaning, I think both the Ventum and the Flow have recommended cleaning regiments that I wouldn't (and won't) ignore. But--my opinion--I think the current crop of options for soaking a can to clean it mean not being about to take it apart doesn't need to be a top priority.
I remember when I bought 1 silencer and only 1 silencer. That was 7 silencers ago. Up to 8 now. lol.
To say nothing of what happens if one has an account with Silencer Shop or Capital Armory, approval times are less than glacial, and then its almost too easy to buy the next one...
I'm still researching suppressors ,however have narrowed it down to #3 choices and will end up with #2 , .30 cal suppressors .
Definitely flow through and 7-9" seem reasonably quieter ,want compatible brakes . I'm lucky in one respect ,as I didn't piss away a bunch of coin on muzzle devices ,just a couple of Std. inexpensive units . Don't care about AR 15 suppression ,shit otherwise I'd be like the poor soul who owns #10 or more Finishing LAST AR- or rather LAR-10 and hopefully this one is the Best of the Best ,as parts pieces weren't bargains even on sales . I did get a sweet spiral SS fluted barrel to MY specs Nitrided . Now asking the shop IF they can at least attempt to do the chamber in BAM . Waiting for reply
Definitely flow through and 7-9" seem reasonably quieter ,want compatible brakes . I'm lucky in one respect ,as I didn't piss away a bunch of coin on muzzle devices ,just a couple of Std. inexpensive units . Don't care about AR 15 suppression ,shit otherwise I'd be like the poor soul who owns #10 or more
Finishing LAST AR- or rather LAR-10 and hopefully this one is the Best of the Best ,as parts pieces weren't bargains even on sales . I did get a sweet spiral SS fluted barrel to MY specs Nitrided . Now asking the shop IF they can at least attempt to do the chamber in BAM . Waiting for reply I’m quoting this so we can all come back to it when you have 10 suppressors.I'm still researching suppressors ,however have narrowed it down to #3 choices and will end up with #2 , .30 cal suppressors .
Definitely flow through and 7-9" seem reasonably quieter ,want compatible brakes . I'm lucky in one respect ,as I didn't piss away a bunch of coin on muzzle devices ,just a couple of Std. inexpensive units . Don't care about AR 15 suppression ,shit otherwise I'd be like the poor soul who owns #10 or more
I’m quoting this so we can all come back to it when you have 10 suppressors.
Ha Ha Ha , what did you say can you speak up ,eh ?. NOT gonna happen as My hearing has been gone since 68
.Besides all the BS one either reads ,see's via boob tube or internet , what's the diff .
I'm still researching suppressors ,however have narrowed it down to #3 choices and will end up with #2 , .30 cal suppressors .
Definitely flow through and 7-9" seem reasonably quieter ,want compatible brakes . I'm lucky in one respect ,as I didn't piss away a bunch of coin on muzzle devices ,just a couple of Std. inexpensive units . Don't care about AR 15 suppression ,shit otherwise I'd be like the poor soul who owns #10 or more
Flowthroughs are great on ar15's that aren't optimized/setup for suppressed use. Flow throughs are not great on bolt guns.
You are making a pretty big trade-off by going flowthrough, IMO.
If the vast majority of your shooting is with semi's/ar15's, then perhaps its a better choice. Just know that a flowthrough is going to be less than optimal on a bolt gun.
If you are shooting primarily bolt guns, then you may want to consider a more conventional suppressor, and getting AGBs or optimized gas systems like BRT EZ-Tunes for your ar15's.
You can also go halfway and get suppressors that are low backpressure, or have vented endcaps.
I started out with 3 to “Cover all my bases”… Now I’m up to 13…I’m quoting this so we can all come back to it when you have 10 suppressors.
I am now figuring 4, 2 x TBAC Magnus 30 cals for my Bolt guns and 2 x Velos LBP 7.65 for my ARs.
Don’t forget 2x TBAC 22 Takedown rimfire cans…One for rifles, one for pistols.
None of my rimfires has a threaded barrel and really not feeling the need.Don’t forget 2x TBAC 22 Takedown rimfire cans…One for rifles, one for pistols.
Yeah, I shoot my rimfires more as well, but the ones I shoot aren’t threaded (54:18 BR and AI Anschutz 1727) and the only one I am thinking of getting ( AI Anschutz 54:18 with 1.1”straight) won’t be threaded. I guess I do have 2 Kidd supergrades with threaded barrels but my kids seem to prefer center fires.
They’re worth threading… One you go subsonic suppressed .22LR you never go back. Just saying.
Like others have said, I consistently shoot my .22LR’s more than I do anything else. Most of my other stuff is load development, and then a few shots here and there at the range, just to keep it seasoned. But my .22’s get shot almost every range session.
If you ever do get yours threaded, @LRI does great work. He threaded a muzzle for me. Mine wasn't an Anschutz but he knows them well.
A different threadMy experience with regards to rimfire 22's:
First, it's important to understand that the little 22 is one of the more difficult cartridges to shoot well. It's a horribly inefficient little thing that travels roughly 1/3rd the speed of anything modern or "cool". What this ultimately means from my perspective is that the bullet loiters around in the barrel 3x longer than what is typical of the centerfire world. That equates to a shooter that must be on his/her game. Shooting fundamentals come into play a whole lot more with these things. It's what makes them so effective as training guns because if you pay attention to detail with a rimfire, the transition to high-power is a whole lot easier in most instances.
When I worked for Anschutz and built stuff for the resident athletes at the OTC in Colorado Springs, keeping things simple was always a priority for me. I never really messed with tuners on international 3P, biathlon, or Silhouette rifles. (Not all of these are Olympic sports, but it's the 3 principal disciplines we catered to there so I had a lot of exposure to them back then) Some of the bench guns we did used a tuner, but they were always looked upon as more of a novelty.
A lesson I learned early on shooting competitively: If you spend any amount of time in the high-power game, be it Service Rifle, Palma, High Power Match rifle, or whatever... If you want to witness a competitive shooter come apart at the seams, watch what happens when an "on-call" shot splashes somewhere well wide of where the shooter decided it should have hit. For anyone experienced, the most typical response is they instantly start grabbing and yanking on things to try and figure out what has come loose on the gun. Sights, brakes, cans, guard screws, bases, whatever it might be. That's where experienced competitive shooters start looking when problems develop from thin air.
So, take that lesson and apply it here. A suppressor likes to come loose. When I used to shoot PRS stuff, I dealt with it all the time. Part of the ritual became snugging up a can right before a stage. I see no benefit from not developing this practice as a standard routine for anyone running a can on a rimfire as well. It certainly won't hurt anything. As far as ultimate accuracy goes, I don't see them harming anything. Off the cuff, it's been my experience that shooters do a better job on suppressed guns just because they are easier to shoot. Less noise ='s less annoyance so people can devote more attention to shooting instead of being bothered by stuff.
If we're going to try and science this, then I offer this for consideration: On every piece of high-speed footage I've ever watched of a rifle being fired, the projectile always outpaces the gas plume. If that is indeed fact, then I would say it's unlikely for a can to somehow disrupt what the bullet is doing once it leaves the muzzle. As for the "H" word (harmonics) I have no idea. I have heard that fluting is supposed to ruin that. According to a lot of the general population that is a ten commandment violation.
(Thall shall not flute barrels)
We flute a metric pile of barrels here at LRI and they seem to shoot just fine. This includes rimfires. Cut, buttoned, broached, and hammer forgings. It doesn't seem to matter. Last, take this with a grain of salt as its an attempt at humor more than anything:
There are 5 things an American man does better than anyone else. Just ask us.
If we fail at any one of these things it is far easier to blame it on something out of our control vs facing the fact that we might just suck at it. The last one is the exclusion of course.
- Drive cars
- Catch Fish
- Drink beer
- Shoot guns
- Fuck women
Assuming this is true I offer the following:
Talk on forums less and focus on well-executed practice more.
Good luck.
C.
LRI
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Like I said I just don’t see the point, I have to wear hearing protection anyway, Range rules. With ARs and other center fires booming I don’t even notice my 22LR. Maybe if I had a dedicated range of my own, but that’s not reality. My ARs get exercised out in forests and gravel pits, my son wants one for his 6.5 creed match gun, my daughter doesn’t care much but might Later want one on her 6 creed and what’s a TacOps without a suppressor?
If you shoot little animals, then a suppressor on that 22LR shooting CCI subsonic segmented ammo at 1050fps is effing golden!
The next target rarely knows it’s next!
Very true, all my shooting is at inanimate targets. I have absolutely nothing against hunting, just not my thing. Last time I went hunting was back while I was in college and went Rabbit hunting over thanksgiving with my cousin's family (failed horribly, blaming being stuck with a cricket 22 as a 6’2” 18yr old). If I was hunting squirrels no question!
I've never even considered using a Bolt gun suppressed ,90% of mine aren't threaded . I'm looking at #3 specific Cal. .308 , 6.5CM and just maybe a 7mm RM . So just considering suppressing those . Shit AR 15's I've got unfired 30 year old Colt's and BushMasters ,along with same and various cobbled units which I do fire.
I've several rifles and high end shotguns I'm seriously considering selling . As I'm down sizing 60 years accumulation . My beloved 7mm RM's will be the LAST thing I part with ,as I've had at least one since 1964 ,so we're old friends .
And I don't own an AR 7mm Rem Mag ,as yet
If those are the 3 things you'll be shooting mostly, in bolt-actions, the Thunderbeast Magnus or Magnus-S, or Otter Creek Labs Hydrogen-L or Hydrogen-S gets my vote...Depending on whether or not you want a 9" can for maximum effectiveness, or a 7" can that it much easier to maneuver while hunting or walking through the woods.I've never even considered using a Bolt gun suppressed ,90% of mine aren't threaded . I'm looking at #3 specific Cal. .308 , 6.5CM and just maybe a 7mm RM . So just considering suppressing those . Shit AR 15's I've got unfired 30 year old Colt's and BushMasters ,along with same and various cobbled units which I do fire.
I've several rifles and high end shotguns I'm seriously considering selling . As I'm down sizing 60 years accumulation . My beloved 7mm RM's will be the LAST thing I part with ,as I've had at least one since 1964 ,so we're old friends .
And I don't own an AR 7mm Rem Mag ,as yet
