Suppressors mack brother varminter

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Anyone running this can? I just went pending last week. Is everyone keeping this the best kept secret out there or are there just not that many people that have them?
 
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most people don't like Brandon....and in the suppressor world, the name bears more importance than the performance, it seems. I have one of Titsworth's cans...and have been told NUMEROUS times it won't perform, but...it meters better than a Sparrow or Spectre...with NO FRP...

My dealer is buddies with Brandon and has a few of the varmiteers in stock, and has pushed one at me....I might buy one, pending how my torch does. I really like the look of the raw finish with my gun...we put one on it for a recent gun show...

But....he claims 127db...and it's a small/light package...so if that's true..it's a damn good deal
 
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"Accuracy enhancing due to no welding, all parts of The Titanium Varminter 2.0 are custom fit together to ensure no stress factors which are created by traditional welding of other higher mass production silencers."

That and perhaps the fact that titanium can only be welded to titanium and his cans are mixed metals. I'm ok with that but the only "stress" factor involved is the stress created when an accountant sees what it actually costs to 100% circumfrentially weld that Ti envelope to fully fashioned titamium baffles. P.S. all that "baffle design which more efficiently channels additional heat from the gas blast to the proprietary titanium alloy tube in a masterful wicking effect" simply cannot, imo, happen unless the whole armature is deep penetration welded to the titanium envelope, compression fit is a very poor tranferer of heat.

When I read things like this I think of a sunlit field of wild flowers near a crystal clear stream cascading down a fall to a reflecting pool with a turd floating in it.

I'll stand by for a full report from somebody on the accuracy of a compression, mixed metal, non-welded $800 can. Anything is possible.
 
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Does the "Varminter" require a brake or a direct thread? I've only seen 1 Mack Bros and it was a BA only.
 
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Cyclone is direct thread too. I'm not knocking either one, as I have never compared them personally. But per the specs, it doesn't appear that there is any advantage of going with a Ti tube since it doesn't weigh much less. Listed weight of Cyclone is 22 oz, listed weight of 7.62 Varminter is 20 oz. Maybe they actually weigh a bit less and the manufacturer was being conservative?
 
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I really dont want this to turn into a bash. Would really just like to know who has one and how it is performing. Went with them b/c i have a relative in the hills that said they are standup guys and are great machinists. Liked the fact of keeping the business in SD if the product is reliable.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jback</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Went with them b/c i have a relative in the hills that said they are standup guys and are great machinists. Liked the fact of keeping the business in SD if the product is reliable. </div></div>

I stopped up and talked to Alan last week about his MB30 and MB300, and YES they are stand up guys, and not to mention they're right across the street from Longrifles inc... Their shop is amazing, and the QD method on the MB series is a flat out great design and I've got a couple on order now, as for the varminter, ehhh, Brandon has the rights to it, in all honesty more power to him, I heard he's been selling the heck outta them.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Charger442</div><div class="ubbcode-body">wait, is that the guy in that marketing vid with "military grade sound testing equipment"?

if so, ill pass. </div></div>

The Mac Bros cans will speak for themselves. As soon as the product becomes more available, there will be a lot more open air reviews to reference.
"Brandon" is simply a dealer licensed to sell the Varminter and that should have no baring on the performance of the can.
Take his sales pitch however you want. That's what salesmen do. I'm not a fan personally, but that wouldn't make me avoid a good manufacturer.
 
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I have 12 of the 30 Cals on the way (as in shipped yesterday)all of the ones I'm getting mount on a Brake. The design is like no other it attaches to a triple lead thread and has a locking system that prevents it from moving using bearings in a grove. The same technology that a Ball Screw on a CNC works. IE very tight and wont move!!!!!

The cans themselves are mostly TI with a couple small steel parts in the locking mechanism. They are very light

As far as Range reports, I took one to a rage Demo 200 Yards on a 308 we were shooting Hornady 168 Amax and several people were able to put 5 shots into less than 1/2" at 200 yards. In fact there were 5 groups less than 1/2" at 200. I was very impressed. Point of impact change without the can was 1 .3" High which again is very good on a 22" barrel.

Price on the Mach Brothers 30 is $985 retail which includes and adaptor. Additional adaptors are $100
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: A10XRIFLE</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have 12 of the 30 Cals on the way (as in shipped yesterday)all of the ones I'm getting mount on a Brake. The design is like no other it attaches to a triple lead thread and has a locking system that prevents it from moving using bearings in a grove. The same technology that a Ball Screw on a CNC works. IE very tight and wont move!!!!!

The cans themselves are mostly TI with a couple small steel parts in the locking mechanism. They are very light

As far as Range reports, I took one to a rage Demo 200 Yards on a 308 we were shooting Hornady 168 Amax and several people were able to put 5 shots into less than 1/2" at 200 yards. In fact there were 5 groups less than 1/2" at 200. I was very impressed. Point of impact change without the can was 1 .3" High which again is very good on a 22" barrel.

Price on the Mach Brothers 30 is $985 retail which includes and adaptor. Additional adaptors are $100 </div></div>Please post pictures when they arrive, thanks.
 
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I'm trying to get Alan to let me bring my HD camera up and film a review of the MB300 and go into detail about the brake attach method they have patented, I also want to get their new version that is going to be "magnum" rated once they get there welder in.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jback</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Any luck with letting them come in and do some filming?? </div></div>
not yet, I've been really busy, but I'm still working on it.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: A10XRIFLE</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have 12 of the 30 Cals on the way (as in shipped yesterday)all of the ones I'm getting mount on a Brake. The design is like no other it attaches to a triple lead thread and has a locking system that prevents it from moving using bearings in a grove. The same technology that a Ball Screw on a CNC works. IE very tight and wont move!!!!!

The cans themselves are mostly TI with a couple small steel parts in the locking mechanism. They are very light

As far as Range reports, I took one to a rage Demo 200 Yards on a 308 we were shooting Hornady 168 Amax and several people were able to put 5 shots into less than 1/2" at 200 yards. In fact there were 5 groups less than 1/2" at 200. I was very impressed. Point of impact change without the can was 1 .3" High which again is very good on a 22" barrel.

Price on the Mach Brothers 30 is $985 retail which includes and adaptor. Additional adaptors are $100 </div></div>

do you have the varminter 2.0 in 30 cal on order or what one do you have? Here the 30 cal is listed retail at $830 bead blasted

http://dakotasilencer.com/the-varminter-silencer-2-0-mack-brothers/
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Raider1v1</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: A10XRIFLE</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have 12 of the 30 Cals on the way (as in shipped yesterday)all of the ones I'm getting mount on a Brake. The design is like no other it attaches to a triple lead thread and has a locking system that prevents it from moving using bearings in a grove. The same technology that a Ball Screw on a CNC works. IE very tight and wont move!!!!!

The cans themselves are mostly TI with a couple small steel parts in the locking mechanism. They are very light

As far as Range reports, I took one to a rage Demo 200 Yards on a 308 we were shooting Hornady 168 Amax and several people were able to put 5 shots into less than 1/2" at 200 yards. In fact there were 5 groups less than 1/2" at 200. I was very impressed. Point of impact change without the can was 1 .3" High which again is very good on a 22" barrel.

Price on the Mach Brothers 30 is $985 retail which includes and adaptor. Additional adaptors are $100 </div></div>

do you have the varminter 2.0 in 30 cal on order or what one do you have? Here the 30 cal is listed retail at $830 bead blasted

http://dakotasilencer.com/the-varminter-silencer-2-0-mack-brothers/

</div></div>The Varminter 2.0 is a different model from the M30.
The former is thread on, and only sold by S&ND Silencer.
The latter is new and uses an ACME thread and ball locking QD mechanism over a brake, and presumably is being sold by any dealer.
Here's some more information and pictures of the new model;
http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=3150071
http://www.primalrights.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=4399
 
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just to toss this out there....Hickok45 shot a Varmiter 2.0 today on my .223 bolt gun.........it's quiet! Was intending to compare it with my Torch...but it got dark too quick as more time was spent on the serbu super shorties and some more 300blk shooting.... video to come soon
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: d00d</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The video is up.
I'd rather see the newer M30, and up close and personal to see how it's made. </div></div>
same here, if enough interest is generated I have the equipment to film the process, "if" Mack Bros. complies.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: GSRswapandslow</div><div class="ubbcode-body">just to toss this out there....Hickok45 shot a Varmiter 2.0 today on my .223 bolt gun.........it's quiet! Was intending to compare it with my Torch...but it got dark too quick as more time was spent on the serbu super shorties and some more 300blk shooting.... video to come soon </div></div>

id really want to see this! the torch that i have is pretty dang quiet!
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Raider1v1</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: GSRswapandslow</div><div class="ubbcode-body">just to toss this out there....Hickok45 shot a Varmiter 2.0 today on my .223 bolt gun.........it's quiet! Was intending to compare it with my Torch...but it got dark too quick as more time was spent on the serbu super shorties and some more 300blk shooting.... video to come soon </div></div>

id really want to see this! the torch that i have is pretty dang quiet! </div></div>

well Eric and he ran short on time.....so he just put up the Varmiter 308 can....the video speaks for itself on the performance!

I'm going Sunday to pick up my rifle, and time permitting, going to try and film some Torch Vs. Varmiter then.....10.5" ar and 20" bolt
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RollingThunder51</div><div class="ubbcode-body">"Accuracy enhancing due to no welding, all parts of The Titanium Varminter 2.0 are custom fit together to ensure no stress factors which are created by traditional welding of other higher mass production silencers."</div></div>

I've heard the Macbros silencers are really great from one of the guys on the board. Nothing against the product I know nothing about.

What I do think needs to be set straight is the notion that welding suppressors facilitates mass production. It simply does not.

Welded suppressors have to be assembled just like non-welded suppressors, by hand. Then they get welded (a slow process). Then the are often sent back to machines to re-machine critical surfaces. In our case it is ID/OD, and EDM bores. Basically if we eliminated welding we could make 2 suppressors for the cost and time of one.

The reason the mass produced silencers are all welded (from KAC to Surefire, AAC to AWC to even ASE Utra is because welding makes more durable, lighter weight, faster cooling suppressors.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Griffin Armament</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RollingThunder51</div><div class="ubbcode-body">"Accuracy enhancing due to no welding, all parts of The Titanium Varminter 2.0 are custom fit together to ensure no stress factors which are created by traditional welding of other higher mass production silencers."</div></div></div></div>

Gotta find out if that "claim" is made by the guys at Mack Bros, or if it was just something else conjured up by the dealer.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: fastford</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Who is stocking the 308 can and MB you guys are talking about? </div></div>

GA Precision is stocking them..... they have the 30cal QD can and both versions of the 22 lr cans.
 
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This is not to get a rise out of anyone but why is SD/nd silencer the only one that can sell the threaded version? Have they just not explored other options? Does sd silencer pay some sort of fee to sell it exclusively ?
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jback</div><div class="ubbcode-body">This is not to get a rise out of anyone but why is SD/nd silencer the only one that can sell the threaded version? Have they just not explored other options? Does sd silencer pay some sort of fee to sell it exclusively ? </div></div>

Kinda, he owns the rights to the Varminter 2.0 design/name. That's not to say that the Mack Bros can't or won't offer a threaded version of their other models.
My understanding is that he contracts the Mack Bros to produce HIS suppressor. Not the other way around.