Maine active shooter

tinfoil hat time: was it really him they found or a convenient patsy?

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LOL. Guy might have been nuts. He might have even done all this shit that is being pinned on him. But you want the real conspiracy theory? He was the patsy. They needed to drum up some anti 2A shit so they checked their files. Everything lined up well and they found a dirty deeds operator with the right build, printed out a mask, and said 'go'.

It's almost like none of you have seen Mission Impossible?

Every time one of these fuckers on SRI's pulls one of these stunts (allegedly) and they let him live, they have that I have no idea WTF is going on look in their eyes. They are whacked out so no one will bat an eye at them 'pretending' to not know what they've done. Then they get interrogated and shown all the evidence and figure they must have done it. And yeah yeah, maybe they did. But too many of these things go off swimmingly for the anti 2A traitor socialist commie waste of spaces. Too much coincidence if you ask me.

Yes it could all go as the mocking bird media and the alphabet agencies say...sure it could. But you know they have an agenda. Why do you automatically believe them? Just sayin'.
 
You can bet that, after this, the leftists will be writing legislation and regulations designed to deny all 2A rights to all veterans seeking help.

The result will be a huge reduction of veterans approaching the VA for assistance or disability claims.

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Not a psychiatrist or mental health professional... but for what it's worth - the ones I've talked to in personal life (no, not as a patient), left right and other leaning, including one who works at the VA, have all expressed this before.

Makes me wonder though - is there even anything that can be done about this at a practical level with a population of 300M+? If anything, isn't it statistically inevitable that someone is going to slip through the cracks? Not here necessarily as this whole Maine shooter story just seems off to me... just thinking out loud.
 
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I learned a new term this morning. Forget the AR "assault rifle" moniker, now we have the BR!

A battle rifle is more powerful and has a greater effective range than the smaller .223-caliber AR-style 'assault rifles' that are the standard issue for the U.S. military​


I couldn't resist...

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Not a psychiatrist or mental health professional... but for what it's worth - the ones I've talked to in personal life (no, not as a patient), left right and other leaning, including one who works at the VA, have all expressed this before.

Makes me wonder though - is there even anything that can be done about this at a practical level with a population of 300M+? If anything, isn't it statistically inevitable that someone is going to slip through the cracks? Not here necessarily as this whole Maine shooter story just seems off to me... just thinking out loud.
Better dangerous freedom than safe slavery.
 
LOL. Guy might have been nuts. He might have even done all this shit that is being pinned on him. But you want the real conspiracy theory? He was the patsy. They needed to drum up some anti 2A shit so they checked their files. Everything lined up well and they found a dirty deeds operator with the right build, printed out a mask, and said 'go'.

It's almost like none of you have seen Mission Impossible?

Every time one of these fuckers on SRI's pulls one of these stunts (allegedly) and they let him live, they have that I have no idea WTF is going on look in their eyes. They are whacked out so no one will bat an eye at them 'pretending' to not know what they've done. Then they get interrogated and shown all the evidence and figure they must have done it. And yeah yeah, maybe they did. But too many of these things go off swimmingly for the anti 2A traitor socialist commie waste of spaces. Too much coincidence if you ask me.

Yes it could all go as the mocking bird media and the alphabet agencies say...sure it could. But you know they have an agenda. Why do you automatically believe them? Just sayin'.
Yep...take about 1/3 of this whole story as truth, and the rest as bullshit.

Maybe the guy knew something. Maybe hes a hero in some way???? Or maybe hes an evil scumbag. I have no idea! I have a hard time believing people go on random shooting sprees. There is always motive.

One thing is certain, I dont trust any of the reporting today!
 
Better dangerous freedom than safe slavery.
As has happened in all the places where guns are banned, authoritarian governments have risen and enslaved, tortured, and killed millions of their own citizens for 'disobeying' the govt.

The US is no exception. Japanese internment camps during WW2 anyone? May not have been death camps, but they weren't club med either.

So yeah, I'll take the rare event like what happened in Maine (that the 24hr news ghouls are spreading worldwide) over letting the govt have all the weapons

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I learned a new term this morning. Forget the AR "assault rifle" moniker, now we have the BR!

A battle rifle is more powerful and has a greater effective range than the smaller .223-caliber AR-style 'assault rifles' that are the standard issue for the U.S. military​


You know we laugh, but this is serious. Its not a laughing matter. People are getting stupid to the point of worthlessness.
 
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A pogue is a type of fish, a kind of useless one at the time, bait, fresh meat.

Candy was pougie bait.

Not believing that history they present.

It’s pougue with a long O not pog.

Army dudes can have their terms but the Marines have theirs.
I'll offer some additions.

Pogy/pogie is the fish, which may or may not come from an Abenaki word "pouhagan" or "that which manures" or "fertilizer". The official name, Atlantic menhaden, DOES come from the Narraganset word that means the same thing. Pogies were used as fertilizer by the Native Americans and were and still are a heavily-used bait fish. Ergo, pogies are on the bottom of the food chain and on the same level as shit or slightly higher when it comes down to things.

"Póg" is indeed Irish Gaelic for kiss (not pogue) and is pronounced "Pohg". But I don't think they're related. Sounds like one of those "folk etymologies" people put forth because they wanna make up an answer to a question that was never asked. Like how "picnic" was alleged to be racist, y'know?

Fobbit sounds better to me anyway. It's just demeaning enough without being massively derogatory.
 
As has happened in all the places where guns are banned, authoritarian governments have risen and enslaved, tortured, and killed millions of their own citizens for 'disobeying' the govt.

The US is no exception. Japanese internment camps during WW2 anyone? May not have been death camps, but they weren't club med either.

So yeah, I'll take the rare event like what happened in Maine (that the 24hr news ghouls are spreading worldwide) over letting the govt have all the weapons

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The fact that this mentally fucked up POS was able to kill 18 people in an urban area means that NOT ENOUGH people are armed. If there had been an ARFCOM/Hide/GOA meetup and convention next door to the bowling alley at the time he showed up, his ass will not make it past 6 shots before everybody comes around the corner and gang stomps him. His body will have around 10-15 GSWs and an equal number of stab wounds. In the melee an overexcited Arfcommer might also accidentally shoot a Hide member in the arm and then in turn, get beat up by 5-6 Hide members. In the end everybody would be gathering at the tavern for a drink, including the Hide member with his arm in a sling and the roughed up Arfcommer, but the crisis would be settled then and there. 😂

By the way, how convenient it is for the perp to have been found dead from a self inflicted GSW when he was loaded for war and obviously going after more soft targets? Somebody decided "game over" and dead mooks tell no tales. With how many bow and rifle hunters already camping out in the woods, it was a matter of time before the POS ends up in somebody's trophy photo, or gets carted alive into a local sheriff's office, whatever mind altering substances his handlers pumped him up with worn off and he gets a chance to blab his side of things and implicate some very important people...
 
I'll offer some additions.

Pogy/pogie is the fish, which may or may not come from an Abenaki word "pouhagan" or "that which manures" or "fertilizer". The official name, Atlantic menhaden, DOES come from the Narraganset word that means the same thing. Pogies were used as fertilizer by the Native Americans and were and still are a heavily-used bait fish. Ergo, pogies are on the bottom of the food chain and on the same level as shit or slightly higher when it comes down to things.

"Póg" is indeed Irish Gaelic for kiss (not pogue) and is pronounced "Pohg". But I don't think they're related. Sounds like one of those "folk etymologies" people put forth because they wanna make up an answer to a question that was never asked. Like how "picnic" was alleged to be racist, y'know?

Fobbit sounds better to me anyway. It's just demeaning enough without being massively derogatory.
Shit fish.

I know guys that rig up every year to stock those nasty things for bait.
 
1. He should not have had any weapons given his involuntary commitment.
2. The psychs and LE messed up.
3. Lying that he had a handler and lying that we should confiscate all guns ignores the following and does nothing to fix.

A. Mentally ill should be locked up.
B. Mentally ill should not have access to weapons
C. The courts and mental health system are not solving this problem and place us all in danger.
 
1. He should not have had any weapons given his involuntary commitment.
2. The psychs and LE messed up.
3. Lying that he had a handler and lying that we should confiscate all guns ignores the following and does nothing to fix.

A. Mentally ill should be locked up.
B. Mentally ill should not have access to weapons
C. The courts and mental health system are not solving this problem and place us all in danger.
The left calls you mentally ill.
 
A. Mentally ill should be locked up.
B. Mentally ill should not have access to weapons
C. The courts and mental health system are not solving this problem and place us all in danger.
The problem with this approach, is how the "authorities," these days define mentally ill and dangerous to self and others.

Think men can be women, can menstruate and can give birth = OK
Think children should be taught and encouraged to switch genders and seek "reassignment" surgery + truckfull of hormones and psych drugs = OK
Merely think someone like Trump is probably not "literally Hitler" = Needs re-education camp! Dangerous! Meets red-flag laws and must be institutionalized!
 
The problem with this approach, is how the "authorities," these days define mentally ill and dangerous to self and others.

Think men can be women, can menstruate and can give birth = OK
Think children should be taught and encouraged to switch genders and seek "reassignment" surgery + truckfull of hormones and psych drugs = OK
Merely think someone like Trump is probably not "literally Hitler" = Needs re-education camp! Dangerous! Meets red-flag laws and must be institutionalized!

You are ranting, not thinking. I said nothing about gender did I. Don't pollute the discussion with irrelevant nonsense. You look like any other street crazy.

I tend to trust local Sheriff's debts and local judges who were locally elected. I have no problem with locking up crazies and throwing away the key.

The lack of conviction and discernment you display has led to great cities like Seattle and Chicago becoming hell holes. And this is spreading.

Someone has to make the hard headed decisions and run the gauntlet of Karens like you and fix this shit.

This is not a right or left issue.
 
You are ranting, not thinking. I said nothing about gender did I. Don't pollute the discussion with irrelevant nonsense. You look like any other street crazy.

I tend to trust local Sheriff's debts and local judges who were locally elected. I have no problem with locking up crazies and throwing away the key.

The lack of conviction and discernment you display has led to great cities like Seattle and Chicago becoming hell holes. And this is spreading.

Someone has to make the hard headed decisions and run the gauntlet of Karens like you and fix this shit.

This is not a right or left issue.
You are very emotional. Leftists and statists are run on emotion.

You typing out your post, above:
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How many here have used this story as a reminder to have your shit squared away?

Your trauma kits ready? Weapons handy and ready? Do you have easy access to protection at the bowling alley? Are your kids safe at school? How many magazines do you have ready? Car full of gas?

Take note, this happened in a state with 29 murders last year. Are you ready? Your family ready?

Are you insured for your family's sake if something happens to you?

Use these stories to prepare yourself!!!! Fuck the media and their drama, make sure you are ready!
 
I'll offer some additions.

Pogy/pogie is the fish, which may or may not come from an Abenaki word "pouhagan" or "that which manures" or "fertilizer". The official name, Atlantic menhaden, DOES come from the Narraganset word that means the same thing. Pogies were used as fertilizer by the Native Americans and were and still are a heavily-used bait fish. Ergo, pogies are on the bottom of the food chain and on the same level as shit or slightly higher when it comes down to things.

"Póg" is indeed Irish Gaelic for kiss (not pogue) and is pronounced "Pohg". But I don't think they're related. Sounds like one of those "folk etymologies" people put forth because they wanna make up an answer to a question that was never asked. Like how "picnic" was alleged to be racist, y'know?

Fobbit sounds better to me anyway. It's just demeaning enough without being massively derogatory.
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This article doesn't say much about the suicide note. On the other hand, the elephant in the room that we are not allowed to see is the Nashville tranny shooter's manifesto, Epstein's Client list and Obama's birth certificate.

 
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Or they are incompetent boobs. That happens more often than not. I am not against conspiracy theories. They are theories of something that involved two or more people to accomplish. But sometimes, they are just dumb.

For example, the Vegas shooting in 2017. The most plausible theory heard came from the hacker group anonymous. Claiming to have hacked the email of the Clarke County SO, they intercepted emails back and forth from the FBI. By the way, on the night in question, freshly after the shooting, people still running down the street, the sheriff shows up and a news team is there to take his statement. Standing behind and on his left within arm's reach is an FBI agent boring a hole in the back of his head.

Anyway, the TLDR is that Paddock was an FBI asset and this was a sting to catch Al Qaeda jihadis trying to buy guns in USA. A two-fer, ban some guns, continue the need for the GWOT. The theory is that the jihadis determined it was a set-up. So, they go to the meeting and kill Paddock and then start shooting people. This does not explain the auditory evidence of a second shooter posted at either the catholic church or the construction site. So, they kill Paddock and bust a window and start shooting.

The rest of the song and dance is the FBI trying to clean up their cluster. Idiots. Or masterminds. More often, idiots.
Card was loco and had made credible known threats and had been involuntarily committed for 2 weeks. But he got a gun?

Looks like the local sheriff's dept had him as a known nut but did what?


"He had, in fact, been referred to the facility on July 16 after “behaving erratically” while in training at the United States Military Academy, a spokesperson for the New York State Division of Military and Naval Affairs told The Daily Beast."



1. Why was he not on the NCIS list?
2. Why was he able to get a gun?
3. Was he committed at an USA facility? Another case of the military leadership NOT doing its job?
And Maine has Yellow Flag Laws . If they believe you're a threat they will take your firearms . Unless you're an FBI asset .
 
If he in fact purchased the firearm recently?

The question I have is; was this a repeat failure to report by the military (Sutherland)????? For a diqualifying incident i.e. his involuntary commitment for schizophrenia?

Why did it not show up on the NICS?

For reference to what I'm talking about.

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How many here have used this story as a reminder to have your shit squared away?

Your trauma kits ready? Weapons handy and ready? Do you have easy access to protection at the bowling alley? Are your kids safe at school? How many magazines do you have ready? Car full of gas?

Take note, this happened in a state with 29 murders last year. Are you ready? Your family ready?

Are you insured for your family's sake if something happens to you?

Use these stories to prepare yourself!!!! Fuck the media and their drama, make sure you are ready!
I volunteer for a junior hockey team and since opening night I’ve had a bad feeling that it would be too easy to walk in and light the place up with a few hundred targets in a compact area. Signs on the doors say no weapons blah blah blah. I carry and my wife does too while she’s “working” there. Fuck em if they want to kick me out. Don’t be a god damn victim.
 
Funny how everyone keeps saying he was a "firearms instructor"....

but the army said he wasn't an instructor for them..

I mean, it's not exactly hard to become an NRA instructor... but I've not even seen any evidence of that.
True. I did the NRA instructor/RO thing to help run our high school and middle school shooting teams for a decade. Nothing but safety certs and all I ever trained was wingshooting trap and 5 postion rimfire but technically I am an "instructor".
 
You know it pisses me off these people go attack a bunch of regular folks and then off themselves. I want them to get into a battle with people who are shooting back.
Every town, no... every neighborhood should have a local militia/natural disaster and emergency response reserves team that, until "professional" .gov-funded "help" arrives, can step in and bring order + a semblance of safety/stability to local families caught in a shitstorm.

Be nice if a group caught the fuckhead and soaked him in diesel then broadcast his burning alive on video on social media. Let it be known you attack innocents, you'll die in agony completely humiliated.

A group in Michoacan played with this idea. Formed Mexico's largest(by far) self-defense group/militia, called the "autodefensas de Michoacan".



Wasn't about the drugs. Fuck the drugs, if they could do their drug business amongst themselves without affecting normal people I doubt most would care. Unfortunately a lot of these meth cooks in tierra caliente("hot land" in Michoacan) are/were heavily into the product themselves, and that shit makes you a soulless paranoid psychopath after a few days. They were extorting everyone, kidnapping ranch owners and avocado farmers, etc for ransom. People got fed up. Dr Mireles(the leader/founder of the group, got kidnapped like 5x or something insane before finally getting fed up and buying a bunch of illegal rifles and putting the group together/recruiting like-minded friends). They were wildly successful and quickly swept thru the entire state, all but scattering the Knights Templar Cartel to send them hiding in the hills.

But can't have people thinking they can do a better job at providing security/safety to themselves than .gov can, or having the possibility of overthrowing the corrupt institution. The Mexican gov't came down on them with an iron fist, forcing them to become part of the .gov-controlled(and therefore corrupt) Fuerzas Rurales. Many, including Dr Mireles himself, refused and were persecuted more harshly than any of the actual criminals(remind anyone else of Jan6? Divide + conquer)... Mireles was nearly tortured to death by the police, then rotted in prison for many years with no medical care whatsoever. He was a broken man after release by all accounts...

A strong bright glimmer of hope, smashed to pieces by .gov.. it was a helluva story.
 
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even better would be if they just offed themselves quietly without involving anyone else.

even even better would be if the family stepped in and forced him to get some help before anyone died.

even even even better would be if the govt stopped grooming people into committing atrocities to further their agenda.
Damn it, you made me agree with you on every single point.

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Also, want to quote Wade at the TPH podcast.

"It's not the rifle, it's the shooter."

Literally, in this case. It is not what weapon he chose. He could have inflicted as much damage with homemade IEDs. He could barrel into a crowd with a van. He could have put poison in the water and beverage kegs or tanks.
 
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Also, want to quote Wade at the TPH podcast.

"It's not the rifle, it's the shooter."

Literally, in this case. It is not what weapon he chose. He could have inflicted as much damage with homemade IEDs. He could barrel into a crowd with a van. He could have put poison in the water and beverage kegs or tanks.

To your point...the largest mass killings are done in Chinese schools by a knife wielding psycho, not a gun. It's fairly routine there.