Maine active shooter

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Oldloser said:

A specific warning went out. Very very specific.

How about a search warrant on his cell phone and financial providers? Another for his residences?
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...and all of his psychiatric files and notes and drug prescriptions at all the clinics and hospitals he was treated at and the cell phones and computers of all of his "counselors" and "treating physicians" at those institutions.
 
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AmmoFort said:
LOL. Guy might have been nuts. He might have even done all this shit that is being pinned on him. But you want the real conspiracy theory? He was the patsy. They needed to drum up some anti 2A shit so they checked their files. Everything lined up well and they found a dirty deeds operator with the right build, printed out a mask, and said 'go'.

It's almost like none of you have seen Mission Impossible?

Every time one of these fuckers on SRI's pulls one of these stunts (allegedly) and they let him live, they have that I have no idea WTF is going on look in their eyes. They are whacked out so no one will bat an eye at them 'pretending' to not know what they've done. Then they get interrogated and shown all the evidence and figure they must have done it. And yeah yeah, maybe they did. But too many of these things go off swimmingly for the anti 2A traitor socialist commie waste of spaces. Too much coincidence if you ask me.

Yes it could all go as the mocking bird media and the alphabet agencies say...sure it could. But you know they have an agenda. Why do you automatically believe them? Just sayin'.
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Like Aurora.... 3 gasmasks full of snot and sweat and saliva..and DNA... and 2 blood trails leaving the emergency exit in a completely different direction then where they find the drugged out of his mind patsy whose father had just discovered the LIBOR rate rigging scheme and was set to testify before congress.
 
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DuneBoer said:
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The same tech they used on the #2 or #3 Al-CIA-Duh guy they captured in Pakistan back in the mid'00's who claimed that Muhamet appeared in his cell to him (Blue Beam) and speaking perfect classical Arabic told him to reveal everything to the Infidels because A((ah desired to show his glory and power and ability to defeat unbelievers even when they knew his plans.
 
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The problem with these cases is that once the shooter is dead, nobody really knows if they were a suma-cun-manchurian-candidate.

I'm going out on a limb and guess that the Nashville tanny's manifesto probably named some people that talked her into a killing spree.

Stop and think about this. It's not that far fetched. Remember the case of Michelle Carter? She talked her boyfriend into committing suicide and spent a year behind bars.

We probably would not have known about her had she not texted Conrad Roy. Someone wanting to end their life probably doesn't think about deleting their text messages.

www.nbcboston.com

Where Is Michelle Carter Now? ‘The Girl From Plainville' Story

It’s been eight years since 18-year-old Conrad Roy died by suicide, and in a landmark case that received national attention, Michelle Carter, his girlfriend, was convicted on an involuntary manslaughter charge related to his death.
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Anway, with everything that I've seen in life, maybe someone really was talking to Robert Card. You can bet that the autopsy won't look for any psychotropic drugs that could have been prescribed.

Also keep in mind that keeping Card locked up and under observation might have revealed who prescribed him the drug(s). They could not let that news get out.

Now it sounds foolish to let someone, that might be dangerous, out of the mental health facility to keep anyone from finding out who prescribed the medication but it can get that demented.

There really are doctors who think only of saving their careers before anyone's life is concerned.

And don't think that military mental health professionals aren't crazy themselves. Does anyone remember this rag-headed quack?

www.militarytimes.com

US could carry out its first military execution in over 60 years

An ex-Army soldier on military death row for the 2009 shooting at Fort Hood, Texas could face execution after the top military court hears the case.
www.militarytimes.com www.militarytimes.com
 
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NotByWorks said:
This one guy with an AR has caused so much hurt and carnage, and he may not be done yet.

What’s it going to be like when a 100,000 border jumping terrorists decide to act? 100,000 may be a low estimate.
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Imagine what 100,000 Americans could do to end the controlled demolition of our home if we were not divided and cared about our children's future more than the house and car payments that help pedos fund their island paradises...

When the army our government in bringing in activates its gonna be hell, and the people will beg the state to do anything to make it stop. Stalin and Hitler will be shocked at what kind of world we have next.
 
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Blue Sky Country said:
The fact that this mentally fucked up POS was able to kill 18 people in an urban area means that NOT ENOUGH people are armed. If there had been an ARFCOM/Hide/GOA meetup and convention next door to the bowling alley at the time he showed up, his ass will not make it past 6 shots before everybody comes around the corner and gang stomps him. His body will have around 10-15 GSWs and an equal number of stab wounds. In the melee an overexcited Arfcommer might also accidentally shoot a Hide member in the arm and then in turn, get beat up by 5-6 Hide members. In the end everybody would be gathering at the tavern for a drink, including the Hide member with his arm in a sling and the roughed up Arfcommer, but the crisis would be settled then and there. 😂

By the way, how convenient it is for the perp to have been found dead from a self inflicted GSW when he was loaded for war and obviously going after more soft targets? Somebody decided "game over" and dead mooks tell no tales. With how many bow and rifle hunters already camping out in the woods, it was a matter of time before the POS ends up in somebody's trophy photo, or gets carted alive into a local sheriff's office, whatever mind altering substances his handlers pumped him up with worn off and he gets a chance to blab his side of things and implicate some very important people...
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Yes, but he wouldn’t be able to implicate anyone. They didn’t show him around the office, introduce him to the manager responsible, and give him the full onboarding package. These are sneak around deals with grey men in track suits and psychologists whispering through fancy headphones. Perfect psycho crimes, really. Very little chance of blowback unless they set him loose in a neighborhood that someone from the office lives in.
 
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Forgetful Coyote said:
Every town, no... every neighborhood should have a local militia/natural disaster and emergency response reserves team that, until "professional" .gov-funded "help" arrives, can step in and bring order + a semblance of safety/stability to local families caught in a shitstorm.

Be nice if a group caught the fuckhead and soaked him in diesel then broadcast his burning alive on video on social media. Let it be known you attack innocents, you'll die in agony completely humiliated.

A group in Michoacan played with this idea. Formed Mexico's largest(by far) self-defense group/militia, called the "autodefensas de Michoacan".



Wasn't about the drugs. Fuck the drugs, if they could do their drug business amongst themselves without affecting normal people I doubt most would care. Unfortunately a lot of these meth cooks in tierra caliente("hot land" in Michoacan) are/were heavily into the product themselves, and that shit makes you a soulless paranoid psychopath after a few days. They were extorting everyone, kidnapping ranch owners and avocado farmers, etc for ransom. People got fed up. Dr Mireles(the leader/founder of the group, got kidnapped like 5x or something insane before finally getting fed up and buying a bunch of illegal rifles and putting the group together/recruiting like-minded friends). They were wildly successful and quickly swept thru the entire state, all but scattering the Knights Templar Cartel to send them hiding in the hills.

But can't have people thinking they can do a better job at providing security/safety to themselves than .gov can, or having the possibility of overthrowing the corrupt institution. The Mexican gov't came down on them with an iron fist, forcing them to become part of the .gov-controlled(and therefore corrupt) Fuerzas Rurales. Many, including Dr Mireles himself, refused and were persecuted more harshly than any of the actual criminals(remind anyone else of Jan6? Divide + conquer)... Mireles was nearly tortured to death by the police, then rotted in prison for many years with no medical care whatsoever. He was a broken man after release by all accounts...

A strong bright glimmer of hope, smashed to pieces by .gov.. it was a helluva story.
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Well the Mexican govt is owned by the cartels, so of course they came down on them.
 
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supercorndogs said:
I get so sick of this shit. This man had rights that should have not been violated without a crime being committed. Freedom of speech means you should be able to say anything.
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So you can go around saying you're going to shoot random people and commit a rando shooting with no ill effects?

Yes I know Carlin was also being comedic and some of it was sarcasm. But I feel it should be pointed out every time someone mentions rights.
 
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Charmingmander said:
So you can go around saying you're going to shoot random people and commit a rando shooting with no ill effects?

Yes I know Carlin was also being comedic and some of it was sarcasm. But I feel it should be pointed out every time someone mentions rights.
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Yes. You can and he did. And thousands of other peopel per day say things also. For example "it makes me so mad I could kill someone" is a common expression. Who decides the intent of one's comments if we start down this slippery slope...

Redflag laws are unconstutional because they deprive peopel of rights with no due process.

George Carlin was funny, but he was also a leftist moron. So......
 
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supercorndogs said:
Yes. You can and he did. And thousands of other peopel per day say things also. For example "it makes me so mad I could kill someone" is a common expression. Who decides the intent of one's comments if we start down this slippery slope...

Redflag laws are unconstutional because they deprive peopel of rights with no due process.

George Carlin was funny, but he was also a leftist moron. So......
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So what is your solution? I'm not saying redflag laws should be legal or not. I don't even believe in background checks. I'm playing devil's advocate.

I wouldn't call Carlin anything close to a leftist based on his interviews. Not in the American politics sense anyway. He was just a grumpy cynic if anything, however I think his point on rights was quite correct.
 
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Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

I am not seeing any exceptions in there.
 
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mcameron said:
So if a group of MS13 members surround your wife and tell her she's gonna get raped...she would be wrong for drawing her gun and shooting them?

You cant very well argue it's justified to shoot someone for exercising a constitutional right?....can you?

It isn't the speech that makes a threat not constitutionally protected.....it's the assault.

You do not have the right to put someone in a position where they reasonably fear for their life.
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Oh shit! Ms13 gang bangers? Those are the scariest ones. Please take my rights and make me safe.

You are way off in the weeds. That's is not even close the situation being commented on.
 
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candyx said:
Don't you need a mirror to shoot yourself to use the sights to aim ?
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supercorndogs said:
Redflag laws are unconstutional because they deprive peopel of rights with no due process.
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I'm not a fan of them but I'm also not aware of a red flag law that allows anyone to be "permanently" incarcerated or "permanently" deprived of any freedoms without at least an appearance before and a ruling by a judge.
 
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supercorndogs said:
Could you please elaborate on why it ok if its not permanent?
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You said "deprive peopel of rights with no due process". The primary purpose of my response was to point out that, AFAIK, no rights are lost without at least an appearance before and a ruling by a judge. I may have made a bad assumption that your phrasing implied permanent. No permanent loss without a judge.

As for the temporary part.

When you are arrested for ... whatever ... do they let you keep your gun in jail? You are temporarily "deprived" of any number rights while you're in custody. But, normally, in these cases you have actually committed some kind of crime to get the attention. However, most states (if not all) have statues or codes on the books that allow an officer to temporarily disarm a citizen who is being detained or arrested on reasonable suspicion or probable cause, warrant or no warrant. No rights "lost", temporarily "deprived".

As I said, I'm not a fan of red flag type laws mainly because they provide an avenue for detainment or arrest without any crime actually having been committed ... precrime.

While I'm not a fan of red flag laws because of this what I really don't like about some of them is they allow strangers to fink on you.
 
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There has been all sorts regarding this on local news tonight. How all the signs were ignored and the flags apparently invisible 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️. What a damn shame
 
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